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JustLurking
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 Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* O wrote: Disney's last live action I've most enjoyed was Aladdin but that was one they took some big risks on. Will Smith as the Genie as strange as it sounded when it was announced miraculously worked well for me. He brought a unique spin to it and Aladdin as a whole was much better than the live action TLK. Jungle Book was also great but felt fresh at the time effects wise. So they took some risks there and it worked out.
TLK made so much $$$ but really felt it had no heart or real emotional resonance compared to the original.
Also surprised a studio hasn't bought a publisher like Scholastic. A treasure trove of classic book content. The model worked for Dr Seuss and Roald Dahl. Netflix did the Dahl deal, expect we'll see more there. Will smith in Aladdin was basically the only thing that worked in the LA imho. And props to him for that, he was really really good. But I still think Genie is better in the original even then. Not because of anything wrong with Smith, but just because when you have such a high-octane character as the Genie, it simply cannot have the same impact in a live action.
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zwackerm
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* I expect it will get similar reviews to Beauty and the Beast and Mulan, fresh but still not that great. We’ll see in 39minutes.
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Keyser Söze
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Too few reviews to make a call now. i think its going to finish in 50s RT and MC. Some reviewers giving strong reviews for Halle's performance but lots of meh reviews saying its just a recycle of the great animated movie.
That said its not going to have much impact on its OW.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* 50% rating after 12 reviews so far. Won't matter  it'll make bank
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* So it will probably end up between Aladdin and BATB on MC.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* zwackerm wrote: publicenemy#1 wrote: The animated Ursula was inspired by a drag queen... Was still a female character lol It's an animated octopus demon, who gives a shit if a man or a woman plays it
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Barrabás wrote: zwackerm wrote: publicenemy#1 wrote: The animated Ursula was inspired by a drag queen... Was still a female character lol It's an animated octopus demon, who gives a shit if a man or a woman plays it  True
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Keyser Söze
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Mermaid has started badly in korea and china is looking to be a disaster. France initial rating is bad though BO does not look bad. I expect this to be among lowest grossing Disney LA in overseas markets. 250-300m OS.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Aladdin did 695.1m OS so I don't see this doing only 250-300m but more like 400-450m. 350m DOM for a 750-800m total or so.
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Keyser Söze
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Cynosure wrote: Aladdin did 695.1m OS so I don't see this doing only 250-300m but more like 400-450m. 350m DOM for a 750-800m total or so. Cannot compare it to pre COVID era. There is also exchange rate now. $ is way stronger than 2019 time frame except comps with Mexican Peso which is at its strongest. As I said its absolutely bombing in Asia which was a huge market. Japan has given up on Disney stuff. Aladdin was a uber blockbuster there. So its reliant on Europe for big numbers. I am not seeing 400m for now. Comp it with Cindrella OS than any of the live action blockbusters.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Keyser Söze wrote: Mermaid has started badly in korea and china is looking to be a disaster. France initial rating is bad though BO does not look bad. All of those markets are pretty racist, particularly China. So no wonder they aren't lining the streets to see it. A fair test for it will be the UK. _________________STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Algren wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Mermaid has started badly in korea and china is looking to be a disaster. France initial rating is bad though BO does not look bad. . So no wonder they aren't lining the streets to see it. A fair test for it will be the UK. Yeah they are  hopefully it does better in the UK & Central/South America
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Even South America looks just meh. Based on analysis it looks like 80m OW OS and sub 250m finish considering its opening everywhere. Competition is brutal with Spiderverse opening next weekend and Transformers the week following that. Then the summer is unrelenting anyway.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* This needs to gross 650m WW to break even. I don’t see it.
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Keyser Söze
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Early shows today looks to have grossed around 800-900K. it was mostly Dolby/XD/RPX and few imax/other PLF at smaller chains/locations. That said this movie is going to be all about Friday and weekend grosses. Friday presales are looking really strong. Thursday previews including early shows is ~11m for now.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Think WoM should be fairly decent.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* publicenemy#1 wrote: Think WoM should be fairly decent. currently 71% critic score, 84% audience score https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_li ... rmaid_2023
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* This will be review bombed for sure. Even the verified audience score would be people pissed off with the "woke" choice from Disney. Already facing the pinch in overseas market and I expect outside the coasts and big cities this to under perform. That should not matter for box office as most of the box office is from those regioins :-)
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Keyser Söze wrote: Mermaid has started badly in korea and china is looking to be a disaster. France initial rating is bad though BO does not look bad. I expect this to be among lowest grossing Disney LA in overseas markets. 250-300m OS. I think the problem is audiences forever identified Ariel as a white redhead girl, and certain regions of the world make no fuss about having zero interest in seeing a black female lead. It's a lot of "not my Ariel" going on. The toy sales are bad too I bet. It's particularly bad for black women, black men seem to be more accepted as leading men in Asia/Latin America etc. But they really don't want black women. I can't think of the last film with a clear black female lead that was a big international hit. Black Panther Wakanda Forever is a case apart because it's in-built Marvel audience and also being a sequel to a film headed by a man. Hidden Figures, Us, A Wrinkle in Time all did bad overseas.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Walkups so far look just Ok. Nothing great. Hope that changes tomorrow or its going to come under projections.
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* critic score down to 68% audience score up to 85%
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Keyser Söze wrote: Walkups so far look just Ok. Nothing great. Hope that changes tomorrow or its going to come under projections. Could this fall under the profit line ($600-650m or so) ? 
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Cynosure wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: Walkups so far look just Ok. Nothing great. Hope that changes tomorrow or its going to come under projections. Could this fall under the profit line ($600-650m or so) ? too early to tell
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Rev wrote: critic score down to 68% audience score up to 85% down to 67% critic score but up to 95% audience score
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Re: The Little Mermaid > BATB OW of $174m *CLUB* Look who's entered this list! And Spider-Verse 2 will be added to it later as well.
CONSECUTIVE DAYS OVER $1 MILLION:
101 Titanic
80 Avatar
80 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
75 Top Gun: Maverick
61 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
59 Finding Nemo
54 Back to the Future
54 Ghostbusters
54 Jurassic Park
54 Shrek 2
52 Aladdin (2019)
52 Avatar: The Way of Water
52 The Avengers
52 Black Panther
52 The Hangover
52 Incredibles 2
52 Shrek
52 Toy Story 4
48 The Passion of the Christ
47 Coco
47 Frozen
47 Moana
47 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
46 Batman
45 Avengers: Infinity War
45 The Blind Side
45 Bridesmaids
45 Cars
45 Frozen II
45 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire
45 Inside Out
45 Jurassic World
45 The Sixth Sense
45 Spider-Man
45 Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
45 Toy Story 3
45 Up
45 Wonder Woman
43 Independence Day
41 Despicable Me
41 Finding Dory
41 The Secret Life of Pets
41 Spider-Man: Far from Home
41 Terminator 2: Judgment Day
40 The Dark Knight
40 Despicable Me 2
40 Despicable Me 3
40 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle
40 The Jungle Book (2016)
40 Minions: The Rise of Gru
40 Spider-Man 2
40 The Super Mario Bros. Movie
39 A Star Is Born (2018)
39 Iron Man
39 Joker
39 The Little Mermaid (2023)
38 American Sniper
38 Apollo 13
38 Avengers: Endgame
38 Beauty and the Beast (2017)
38 Bruce Almighty
38 The Dark Knight Rises
38 Deadpool
38 Elvis
38 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
38 Inception
38 Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom
38 Knocked Up
38 Kung Fu Panda
38 The Lion King (2019)
38 Maleficent
38 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
38 The Proposal
38 Ratatouille
38 Saving Private Ryan
38 Shrek the Third
38 Spider-Man: Homecoming
38 Spider-Man: No Way Home
38 Wedding Crashers
38 Zootopia
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