House of Wax...Stop The Insanity!!!
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DP07
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 Zingaling wrote: Here's a little update of the charts... Most Searched/Clicked Movies on Yahoo (right-hand side) 3. House of Wax (+1 from yesterday) Crash is no longer on the list. Kingdom of Heaven wasn't on it yesterday. Most Watched Trailers at Yahoo2. House of Wax (+2 from yesterday) 3. Kingdom of Heaven (+3 from yesterday) 7. Crash (+7 from yesterday) Yahoo Movies Buzz ListHouse of Wax (remains at #10) Kingdom of Heaven (#9; forgot to check what it was yesterday) Crash (not on the top 20) Wow, on the Buzz index 9th place and a score of 15 is really good for a movie like KOH. Movies attracting an older audience tend to have low scores. The Interpreter wasn't even at 5 before released. 13 is weak for a movie like House of Wax since horror movies tend to get high rankings on that list. Amityville, TCM, and a bunch of others were all over 50 at this point.
As for the trailer chart, I consider it meaningless. The list of clicks and searches is heavily affected by the trailer list, so that is likely the cause of the high ranking for House of Wax there.
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| Tue May 03, 2005 6:58 pm |
 
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Jeff 42
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I could be wrong, but I get the feeling that Paris Hilton will have the same sort of effect on HoW's box office as all the Bennifer hype had on Gigli's. I'm not saying this movie will do nearly as bad as Gigli did, but Paris Hilton is an annoying celebrity that many people are sick of hearing about and I'm almost certain she'll do more harm than good to HoW's prospects of success.
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| Tue May 03, 2005 9:01 pm |
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STEVE ROGERS
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makeshift wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: Zingaling wrote: Maverikk wrote: Zingaling wrote: Okay, well thanks for clearing it up, because most of your arguements featured "House of Wax looks stupid", so I assumed you were using that as your arguement for the opening weekend... I was using that argument for opening weekend...lol It looks stupid, and people associate Paris Hilton with stupid things. That is going to put people off. You have such a small audience potential for this film, because it's not going to win the adult audience from Kingdom of Heaven and Crash , the under 17 crowd is out because of the rating, and the horror audience will be getting pulled away by Amityville, and some will be burned out on the overkill. Where do you expect this audience to come from on opening weekend, Zingy? I still think it will be second this weekend, but a distant second. Well, first of all, The Amityville Horror won't hurt House of Wax. The Amityville Horror won't have more than $5 million this weekend, so I highly doubt that will hurt House of Wax. It'll be the other way around, if anything. Second of all, Kingdom of Heaven and Crash sure do have the adult audiences, but what about the 16-25 (or 16-30) year olds? I'm sure their choice would be House of Wax over the other two, and it's targeted at this age group, anyways. I don't think it's TRYING to get the adult audience, though it can get horror fans of adults and fans of the original House of Wax. For example, my dad is a horror fan, and he thinks House of Wax looks good. He wants to see it, but Kingdom of Heaven is his first choice. I'm surprised he wants to see Crash, though, because he's usually not into those types of movies.  Man, where the hell do you live? There were just as many teens at my Amityville Horror showing then there were at any other horror movie released this year. I'm expecting the same with House Of Wax, but at least the teens have to be over 17 years old. My theater is uber-strict with the whole carding thing. They even have two security guards that stand in front of the big R rated movies every weekend. _________________http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmXF3CE04A This kills TDKR At the box office next summer.. Get used to this
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zingy
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Quote: Yahoo Movies Buzz ListHouse of Wax (remains at #10) Kingdom of Heaven (#9; forgot to check what it was yesterday) Crash (not on the top 20) (#7, +3 from yesterday)
Kingdom of Heaven (#6; +3 from yesterday)
Crash (not on the top 20)
All other charts stayed the same.
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| Wed May 04, 2005 6:31 am |
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Kris K
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Coming Soons weekend warrior predicts $24.3M for HOUSE OF WAX this weekend, at Number 2.
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| Wed May 04, 2005 5:11 pm |
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zingy
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I quit.
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El Maskado
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Poor Zing. I feel sorry for you that you now have to see Monster in Law #-o
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| Sat May 07, 2005 1:39 pm |
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zingy
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Poor Zing. I feel sorry for you that you now have to see Monster in Law #-o Yeah, and that basically messes up my whole planned schedule.
Out of the three movie I wanted to see before Episode III ( Unleashed, Kingdom of Heaven, and Crash), I'll have to skip one.
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Michael.
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Zingaling wrote: El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Poor Zing. I feel sorry for you that you now have to see Monster in Law #-o Yeah, and that basically messes up my whole planned schedule. Out of the three movie I wanted to see before Episode III ( Unleashed, Kingdom of Heaven, and Crash), I'll have to skip one. Who knows, you may even enjoy Monster In Law.
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Maverikk
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I think you'll enjoy Monster-in-Law. :razz:
Zingy, I did try, I really did. I hope that this thread did help some of you guys weigh the options and come to the conclusion that the case made by myself and others was just too good not to consider lowering your predictions. We can't get it right all of the time, but I was about as close to 100% as it gets with my feelings on this, which was my reason for starting this thread, and making the bet that I made, giving myself no allowances for it going over 15 million, even though I could have.
As for next weekend's box office, don't be afraid to believe in Monster-in-Law to do very well. More on that later and in a different thread.
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Dr. Lecter
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Michael wrote: Lecter, the very fact that this IS "typical teenie slasher" is whats going to make it a hit.
There hasn't been a teen slasher like this for a very long time. The slasher genre has all but been replaced with bad thrillers and creepy Japanese terrorist children; people miss the horror comedy genre where everything is done tounge in cheek and the audience cheers at a murder rather than screams. And this coming from a big fan of Japanese Horror; its time for a revival of the All American Gorefest.
Wax has a Scream quality about it; its marketing has been the most exceptional for any horror of the year IMHO and if people dont love the teen stars; theyd go to see em die. A guilty pleasure indeed.
The suggestion this film is buzzing because of Paris Hilton is far fetched to say the least; shes an internet star? Really? Aside from the cheap porn video that people OFFLINE also saw I dont see anything tying Paris Hiltons stardom to the internet. Sure shes a star of the movie; but its not like the world and its brother would go see a Hilton movie..
So i pretty much disagree with the parent poster of this thread and Dr Lecter. Wax has been buzzing for a long time; and if anything i think its being sorely underpredicted. But maybe thats just me; im willing to take a chance on films from time to time and this is one of them. *feeds crow*
Well, Zing has already gotten more than enough of his share of crow for xXx (which he shared with me and Moviedude) and HOW. Now it's your turn.
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| Sat May 07, 2005 10:20 pm |
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zingy
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Maverikk wrote: I think you'll enjoy Monster-in-Law. :razz: Zingy, I did try, I really did. I hope that this thread did help some of you guys weigh the options and come to the conclusion that the case made by myself and others was just too good not to consider lowering your predictions. We can't get it right all of the time, but I was about as close to 100% as it gets with my feelings on this, which was my reason for starting this thread, and making the bet that I made, giving myself no allowances for it going over 15 million, even though I could have. As for next weekend's box office, don't be afraid to believe in Monster-in-Law to do very well. More on that later and in a different thread. Yeah, yeah, Mav. I know.
Believe me, though. You will be wrong on a movie sometime soon, and I will shine.
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Libs
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Zingaling wrote:
Out of the three movie I wanted to see before Episode III (Unleashed, Kingdom of Heaven, and Crash), I'll have to skip one.
Oh, you know Unleashed is going to be exactly like almost every movie you see.
Try Monster-in-Law, which will at least be a change of pace :razz:
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Maverikk
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Libs wrote: Try Monster-in-Law, which will at least be a change of pace :razz: Like he has a choice. :razz:
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DP07
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I'm glad HOW was overpredicted as I expected. More like Ghost Ship then most of the other horrors this year.
Poor Zing, I couldn't imagine having to watch Monster in Law. 
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Libs
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DP07 wrote: I'm glad HOW was overpredicted as I expected. More like Ghost Ship then most of the other horrors this year. Poor Zing, I couldn't imagine having to watch Monster in Law. It's doesn't look that bad! 
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Maverikk
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Zingaling wrote: Yeah, yeah, Mav. I know. Believe me, though. You will be wrong on a movie sometime soon, and I will shine. I already was wrong, as KOH won't be clearing 100 million, but I wouldn't have made any bets on that. I don't plan on being wrong anytime soon, and, if fact, I think it's gonna be my year. \:D/ Next week should be fun, as everybody is scared to go high on predictions. Look for the audience to start turning out in much higher numbers. You heard it here first.
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DP07
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Libs wrote: DP07 wrote: I'm glad HOW was overpredicted as I expected. More like Ghost Ship then most of the other horrors this year. Poor Zing, I couldn't imagine having to watch Monster in Law. It's doesn't look that bad! :razz: True I suppose; when I think about it there are probably over a dozen wide releases this year I'd want to see even less.
Boogeyman, White Noise, The Wedding Date, Racing Stripes, Are We There Yet?, Alone in the Dark, Amityville, Man of the House, Son of the Mask, The Pacifier, Guess Who, MC 2, Ice Princess, Fever Pitch, and that's just off the top of my head.
But worst of all I couldn't imagine having to miss out on a movie like Unleased in theaters and having to see Monster In Law instead.
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| Sat May 07, 2005 11:14 pm |
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zingy
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I'm not upset, DP07. Like I said, I'm using this bet to my advantage. I'm taking my mom to see it tomorrow for Mother's Day.
Kill two birds with one stone.
And, Mav, even if you're wrong next weekend, I'll be wrong, too. I do expect Kicking and Screaming to pull around $28-30M, Monster-in-Law to pull $20-22M, and the other openers... well, the studios screwed up, so both under $10M.
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Libs
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DP07 wrote: Libs wrote: DP07 wrote: I'm glad HOW was overpredicted as I expected. More like Ghost Ship then most of the other horrors this year. Poor Zing, I couldn't imagine having to watch Monster in Law. It's doesn't look that bad! :razz: True I suppose; when I think about it there are probably over a dozen wide releases this year I'd want to see even less. Boogeyman, White Noise, The Wedding Date, Racing Stripes, Are We There Yet?, Alone in the Dark, Amityville, Man of the House, Son of the Mask, The Pacifier, Guess Who, MC 2, Ice Princess, Fever Pitch, and that's just off the top of my head. But worst of all I couldn't imagine having to miss out on a movie like Unleased in theaters and having to see Monster In Law instead. What about Unleashed makes it *so* appealing? I mean, it just looks like a random action movie concoction to me.
I guess that's why I'm not a guy?
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El Maskado
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Zingaling wrote: I'm not upset, DP07. Like I said, I'm using this bet to my advantage. I'm taking my mom to see it tomorrow for Mother's Day. Kill two birds with one stone. And, Mav, even if you're wrong next weekend, I'll be wrong, too. I do expect Kicking and Screaming to pull around $28-30M, Monster-in-Law to pull $20-22M, and the other openers... well, the studios screwed up, so both under $10M. Dont forget to bring your I-pod into the theater tommorrow. Its a good way to kill off 2hrs
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zingy
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Zingaling wrote: I'm not upset, DP07. Like I said, I'm using this bet to my advantage. I'm taking my mom to see it tomorrow for Mother's Day. Kill two birds with one stone. And, Mav, even if you're wrong next weekend, I'll be wrong, too. I do expect Kicking and Screaming to pull around $28-30M, Monster-in-Law to pull $20-22M, and the other openers... well, the studios screwed up, so both under $10M. Dont forget to bring your I-pod into the theater tommorrow. Its a good way to kill off 2hrs I wish. Me madre would get mad that I took her to a movie and didn't even pay attention. :razz:
Plus, I'll probably write a review for the site.
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Maverikk
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Zingaling wrote: I'm not upset, DP07. Like I said, I'm using this bet to my advantage. I'm taking my mom to see it tomorrow for Mother's Day. Kill two birds with one stone. And, Mav, even if you're wrong next weekend, I'll be wrong, too. I do expect Kicking and Screaming to pull around $28-30M, Monster-in-Law to pull $20-22M, and the other openers... well, the studios screwed up, so both under $10M. I might be higher on both of those. I'll be doing a bit more investigating first, and also will be taking this sneak preview into account.
I, too, can't really see the appeal of Unleashed, as it just doesn't look like it's anything that I haven't seen before.
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| Sat May 07, 2005 11:22 pm |
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zingy
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Maverikk wrote: Zingaling wrote: I'm not upset, DP07. Like I said, I'm using this bet to my advantage. I'm taking my mom to see it tomorrow for Mother's Day. Kill two birds with one stone. And, Mav, even if you're wrong next weekend, I'll be wrong, too. I do expect Kicking and Screaming to pull around $28-30M, Monster-in-Law to pull $20-22M, and the other openers... well, the studios screwed up, so both under $10M. I might be higher on both of those. I'll be doing a bit more investigating first, and also will be taking this sneak preview into account. I, too, can't really see the appeal of Unleashed, as it just doesn't look like it's anything that I haven't seen before. I'll see if Monster-in-Law is sold out tomorrow, but I wouldn't use it to predict.
If you remember, Fever Pitch, Team America: World Police, and The Girl Next Door all had sold out sneak previews...
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Maverikk
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Zingaling wrote: I'll see if Monster-in-Law is sold out tomorrow, but I wouldn't use it to predict.
If you remember, Fever Pitch, Team America: World Police, and The Girl Next Door all had sold out sneak previews... I was thinking more in terms of how WOM could be for the following weekend. If it's really funny, I'd probably be inclined to go higher, but if it's boring and lame, and the audience doesn't like it much, I'd expect them to tell all their friends about it, and I'd go lower.
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