While I certainly agree with you to an extent, especially regarding Shrek 2, I would say that the SM films rank as high as ID4 and maybe even JP when it comes to popularity - they are really beloved films by the general populace (much like the first Batman was). And also, TPOTC was most certainly a reflection of a public "phenomenon" in the vein of ANH and Titanic, though to a lesser extent, so I think that the box office is still a valid gauge of that (and all the more valid so long as DVD figures are still somewhat kept secret ](*,) ). It seems that Shrek 2 was really an anomaly of sorts, but someone mentioned something to me that made a lot of sense - now, we can't really consider the box office success of sequels to be reflective if their effect on pop culture and whatnot, and this is really evident in Shrek 2, MTF, etc., but that measurement is still applicable to original films, which I think, rings true - Pirates, The Passion, Spider-Man, etc.

I think it is very true. More then anything else, I think a popular original is the single most powerful factor a film can have these days on opening weekend. More then all the marketing, hype, or the look of the film.

Yeah? YEAH???

Let's wait until the sequel to Titanic comes out.

"Jack, you're alive!"

"Yes Rose, I am."

"But I thought you froze to death!"

"No Rose. I merely pretended I was dead so you could let me go and save yourself"

[(audience members: "Aw! I want him as my husband!")- add $50m to the gross]

"Awww, honey, that's so nice of you"

"Yes. Well, then I managed to go back up again to the surface by hanging on to the dead bodies. It was not a pretty sight, but meh".

TITANIC 2: JACK'S BACK


I gather the theme song will be "I'm Still Going On..." by Celine Dion featuring JaRule and 50 Cent.

lmao.

They should re-release Titanic and add more money to it's total! Afterall, Star Wars was allowed to do that, and E.T., and so on...

PEACE, Mike

You need legs, but not the kind of legs that Titanic had, in order to pass $600m.

The daily numbers are becoming so huge that one day is equivalent to a weekend in 1997/1998. Sith's opening day of $50m nearly doubled Titanic's opening weekend. It's first 4 days were bigger than Titanic's first 5 weekends combined.

A film with those kinds of numbers nees moderate drops to cruise past Titanic. I would say that a film with a performance similar to that of Spider-Man 1, only with slightly stronger legs, could do the job.

Consider that by 2010, a film with SM1's exact drops and the same number of admissions would gross $500m due to inflation of ticket prices. A film that followed Shrek 2's pattern would end up with $508m. Those are quite close to Titanic, certainly more so than it might seem at present.

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So are we agreeing that one of the two possible scenarios to beat Titanic requires inflation to be the controlling factor here, and just disagreeing about the time frame? If so, 5 years, 10 years, 15, I'll go with any - my point is that inflation is the required ingredient for one of these front loaded SM/Shrek/SITH type films to sink the boat.

Otherwise, I stand pat on the point that without inflation to help, the only way for a film to take down Titanic is to behave like Titanic - good opening and then build slightly/drop slightly/build slighty/etc. Front-loading with smaller drops alone is not going to get the job done.

Should still get there I mean look at Sith vs SM2 at this point. SM2 made $45m in its second weekend and Sith should make over $55m not including Memorial Day Monday. In terms of percentages SM2 increased 51.7% on its Friday, increased only 29.3% on Saturday, and dropped 25.2% on Sunday. Sith's Friday and Saturday increases were better then what SM2 did.

ROTS will likely be the 48th film to cross the $400million mark. Impressive in the age of DVDs and Bit Torrents.

What 47 films crossed 400 mill?

:laugh: I told ya this was gonna happen.. Folks throwing out rumors instead of facts will cause hysteria like this, like this critic on the news this morning saying Longest Yard had bested ROTS in projections for the weekend along with the animated cartoon Madgascar was bound to cause some speculation.. Had it of been true, folks from all websites on the internet and throw the Media in there to, would've said SW was beat out by an Adam Sandler movie so it must be a failure, even after making all that $$$ as quick as it has.. Hmmm, maybe I'll head over to RT or CHUD to see if anyone is running with this..

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Okay, thanks for clearing that up.