The dark universe cast photo was really cool!

I was gonna say money but according to google he took less money to have more creative influence? Not a good look. He's lucky that Fallout and Maverick made almost everyone forget about The Mummy.

Think it was the aftermath of the "shared Universe" reaction to the MCU with Universal pushing for monsters with Crowe and Cruise, Jolie, Depp, Bardem, but seems the lack of cohesiveness.

I do think a rebooted Mummy movie with a younger A-lister and Fraser back could do quite well.

I really think the series peaked with Fallout. I mean in terms of gross, stunts, storyline, finished product, everything. It hit its crescendo.

They made two more, and the results are for all to see. While I enjoyed Dead Reckoning, the studio and Tom clearly struggled to get people invested again after Fallout. To eek out interest for eigth films is difficult, especially post-whatshouldhavebeenthefinalfilm.

The stunts in these latest two also are not in line with the idea of ever-increasing danger. He already hung off a plane in Rogue Nation, so to do that again in Final Reckoning, while still impressive I suppose, isn't going to get people talking. Ok, so the plane goes upside down. I reckon most people are skeptical about just how dangerous these stunts actually are. They probably know he's wearing a secret harness.

As I've said many times, the only way post-Fallout for the series to not lose interest was to go bigger than ever before. That means going to space. This idea was actually floated around in the news channels at one point, but it wasn't necessarily mentioned as an idea for an M:I film. But Tom was attached to the idea for another project. Regardless, when the seventh M:I film came out and it was (while still cool) just another M:I adventure in Rome, Abu Dhabi, on the Orient Express ... people probably felt deflated. They had the idea of "bigger and better" in their heads and instead they were given just another Ghost Protocol.

So I think Final Reckoning will not be this big end-of-series box office statement for Cruise. I think it will again struggle to break through the series' ceiling. I just don't believe it's a story that the masses are clamouring to see the conclusion of, which means people's interest boils down to ... the stunt? not impressive enough. Last time seeing Ethan Hunt? he already died in M:I-III and came back, plus there's eight movies of Hunt for people to enjoy. Coming full circle and bringing the team back together? happens in every installment.

While I love the series and love the Final Reckoning trailer, it is no different than the Dead Reckoning trailer. Every series learns the hard way when enough is enough. It's just that M:I made two movies back-to-back before realising people were over their M:I obsession. The Bourne Ultimatum was the peak of that series but they also didn't realise for two movies later. Skyfall was the peak of the Craig era and they didn't realise for two movies.

I hope I'm wrong here but I just cannot see it improving on Fallout. I predict it will make around $200 million domestically.

Opening the week before Barbenheimer + TGM coasting is what did it in for the last one. They got way too cocky thinking they could ride TGM's coatails to a bigger Mission Impossible gross and felt like they did less marketing for it. That cost them when Barbenheimer became much bigger than any of them expected. I feel like that's why Cruise was around showing himself seeing Barbie, Oppenheimer so that Mission Impossible would get some of that spillover audience but it didn't really happen.

If they had been smart they should have changed its release date to later in the year/summer but wanted that prime release date and it probably cost them at least $50M in box office.

I do think the next one can do better in terms of box office.

I think having a name as villain in Dead Reckoning would've made a difference, it just didn't look like it stood out for the series other than being presented as a two parter climactic film, and Fallout had Cavill at least. Even if they had Brody or something I think it comes off better.

Agreed

With the trailer marketing it as Ethan Hunt's last ride, I'm going to say this ends up the biggest Mission Impossible film unadjusted.

Are there still people who believe that franchises end?

Lilo and Stitch is going to sadly hurt this a bit I think. 70-80m OW, 230-265m DOM

Early reviews are meh, hype is meh and while it will get its contractually promised imax theaters, everyone else is gonna be putting Lilo in their largest auditoriums. I think this movie is in trouble. Hopefully I'm wrong and a Lilo Impossible trend will put some extra butts in the seats, but right now I'm doubting it gets over $60M opening. Probably closer to $50M.

I dont see 60m OW being an issue. it should hit that. Presales are not bad at all.

That's about its ceiling IMO. A $75m/$240m run would be very good for this.

All the hemming and hawing from social reactions just for reviews to still be very good, just a step down from previous entries, is pretty funny to me

Can't muster much excitement for MI8. I sense that's the same for the general audience. The MI fans will get this to the MI ball-park $220-230m

Right? Usually its the opposite! Happy to see the turnaround.

I forgot they gave Dead Reckoning Part 1 96%.

Which in itself is ridiculous. 7 was the weakest since part 2. That’s the cruise machine power right there