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 Wicked now going against Gladiator 2...next Barbenheimer? Eh 
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After this smashes the message will be sent to Hollywood of "more female films". It will be a nice change, it feels like they've been making blockbusters like the audience is 70% male for decades.

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Glicked > Wickediator.


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Gladiated > Glicked > Wickediator

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Only problem is I keep reading it as Glick-ed instead of Glick-ehd.

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Maybe Wicked II is better just to make it super confusing in a year's time, lol

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Blade has to move to Wicked II weekend to make Blicked/Blacked.

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I prefer Wickiator myself.

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Gladiator is now apparently tracking at $65M.

Moana seems like the monster of the weekend though and going to be an interesting race to watch against Wicked as it outpaces Inside Out 2.

Wouldn't it be something to see 3 $100M+ OWs but seems too far for Gladiator's reach. $65M would be a decent start for Gladiator though as I feel it will play into the new year.


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I am not convinced by that Gladiator number. I am thinking lower than that for now. Its presales are well below Oppenheimer. Of course its strong buzz close to release could help get it there but I am skeptical for now.

80m for Wicked seem too low. I am hearing the movie is really good.

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I feel like if any movie can possibly top Inside Out 2, the one with the best chance is Wicked. It could definitely pull a Barbie with the way things are looking. Lower OW but with the Christmas holidays who knows.


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I was leaning towards Moana 2 as having the best chance with 150 mil opening and then phenomenal holidy season. However it always felt like the movie would be ok quality wise as they rushed it from TV plans.

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Also feels like Wicked will be able to stand out longer. Between Sonic and Mufasa (with Disney likely shifting resources over) family competition will be pretty brutal by the time Moana reaches Christmas.


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Gladiator 2 will do decent numbers but not be a uber blockbuster.
Wicked vs Moana 2 will be the real battle, im Interested in how it goes.


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Keyser Söze wrote:
I am not convinced by that Gladiator number. I am thinking lower than that for now. Its presales are well below Oppenheimer. Of course its strong buzz close to release could help get it there but I am skeptical for now.

80m for Wicked seem too low. I am hearing the movie is really good.



Personally I feel like a better comp for Gladiator would be JW4 (non-summer + action movie not drama). I also think BB4 is likely to be a better comp than Oppy


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Gladiator 2 will do decent numbers but not be a uber blockbuster.
Wicked vs Moana 2 will be the real battle, im Interested in how it goes.


I believe that positive reviews and awards recognition will significantly contribute to making Gladiator II a blockbuster hit. Although Wicked and Moana 2 will be bigger, they are targeting a very similar demographic. Gladiator II has the potential to differentiate itself and enjoy a prolonged run in theaters due to minimal competition for the remainder of the year.

Kraven does target a similar audience, but it's not expected to pose significant competition. Meanwhile, Wicked and Moana 2 will face tougher competition with the releases of Sonic and Mufasa. However, by that time, they will have already established a solid foothold, allowing most interested viewers to have seen them. They should still perform well during the holidays, with repeat viewings contributing to their success.

Essentially, Wicked, Moana 2, and Gladiator II are all positioned to benefit from relatively low competition, ensuring that interested audiences will have the chance to watch them at some point. I expect all three to be huge.


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Wicked better hope that Moana 2 skews young and they skew older


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I think Wicked is more of a gals night out movie that just happens to also appeal to families.


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Seeing the impact of Jenny Ortega on Beetlejuice shows the power of a film with multi generation appeal.

Having fans of Wizard of Oz (older), the book (90s), then Wicked the play (early 00's), then Grande (10s/20s), combined with Thanksgiving, Christmas holidays, family film appeal, and strong reviews along with Oscar attention and seems like its primed for a multi-quadrant event. Jeff Goldblum as the Wizard helps with male appeal too.


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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
I think Wicked is more of a gals night out movie that just happens to also appeal to families.


Showing that quality box office nous that led you to pick not only Horizon 1 AND 2 but Joker too! :funny:

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Algren wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
I think Wicked is more of a gals night out movie that just happens to also appeal to families.


Showing that quality box office nous that led you to pick not only Horizon 1 AND 2 but Joker too! :funny:
No amount of slander against the Horizon franchise will keep Wicked below $300M for you. :P


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Flava'd vs The World wrote:
Algren wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
I think Wicked is more of a gals night out movie that just happens to also appeal to families.


Showing that quality box office nous that led you to pick not only Horizon 1 AND 2 but Joker too! :funny:
No amount of slander against the Horizon franchise will keep Wicked below $300M for you. :P


:funny: True. I know I've lost.

But I'm not slandering Horizon. It's my favourite film of the year. Just you picking it.

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Algren wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
Algren wrote:
Flava'd vs The World wrote:
I think Wicked is more of a gals night out movie that just happens to also appeal to families.


Showing that quality box office nous that led you to pick not only Horizon 1 AND 2 but Joker too! :funny:
No amount of slander against the Horizon franchise will keep Wicked below $300M for you. :P


:funny: True. I know I've lost.

But I'm not slandering Horizon. It's my favourite film of the year. Just you picking it.
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Kev deserves a bit of criticism for that weirdly included 'next time on Horizon' reel.

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I think the election going the way it did might supercharge Wicked’s performance even more. Give me that fantasy shit

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Yes liberals will need escapism lol


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