I've just turned on tv and saw only Ferrari, Minardi and Jordan starting the race. Lol!

Its a &@*@*@* joke!!!!!

In an answer to your question:

Michelin asked its teams (all of them bar the above 3) to not race with the tyres they brought to the GP as they couldnt agree they will be safe in turn 13 after Ralf Schumacher's crash on friday.
The teams asked the FIA for a temporary tyre chicane to be built but the FIA and Ferrari did not agree. Michelin is at fault andf have alot of answering to do. But Ferarri is a blight on the sport once again for not allowing the chicane. Some sort of agreement should have been made before the race to allow all teams to start. Offcourse the safety of the drivers is the most important thing but surely a solution could have been found.

An absolute joke - i feel sorry for the people at the track. How do they expect the US public to ever warm to F1. The crowd is booing and throwing things on the track,

This could have been a great race. Kimi was closing in on Alonso in the championship too. The only justice would be DNFs from both Ferraris.

an earlier report:

Teams Won't Leave Pits Without Chicane

By Jonathan Noble and Will Gray Sunday, 19 June 2005 17:11


Williams technical director Sam Michael has revealed that a majority of teams will not even leave the pitlane for the start of the United States Grand Prix if a chicane is not installed at the final corner.

With the Michelin runners admitting that they will only be able to compete in this afternoon's race if a chicane is inserted to slow cars through the final corner, the fate of the event now hangs on whether Ferrari give their approval to the construction of the chicane.

But with Ferrari having so far appeared to show little sign of compromise over the matter throughout the weekend, Michael fears that agreement may not come in time.

"The only solution is to have the chicane in to slow the speeds in turn 12," said Michael. "In that situation Michelin will approve the tyres for the race, we will not get their approval otherwise.

"Nine teams want to have the chicane. At the moment it looks like it will be non-Championship. We will be ready to go out of the pit lane at 1230 with our two cars as will the other nine cars. If there's no chicane no one will go from the pit lane. It's only down to Ferrari."

Speaking about the discussions that have taken place at Indianapolis, Michael added: "What we offered as the nine teams is that Ferrari take up the front row, all the Bridgestone teams take the top six and all the Michelin teams form in order behind and that wasn't accepted.

"That was our only solution as a penalty for us asking for a chicane. They could take up the top six grid positions and it would be a full Championship race. But that wasn't accepted."

Red Bull Racing boss Christian Horner echoed Michael's comments that it was unsafe for the race to take place if the chicane was not inserted.

"We can't run this tyre on the high-speed banking so therefore there needs to be a reduction in speeds around that turn," he explained.

Minardi boss Paul Stoddart, who has backed the plans for a chicane even though his team runs on Bridgestone, is adamant that the race must run this afternoon.

"It is very difficult," he said. "Nobody wants to be in this position, nobody wants this pressure, but what is important is Formula One the sport must survive.

"We need to see a motor race. Hopefully there will be a race. We need to see a chicane in the turn before the banking to enable the race to go ahead and that is what is going to be.

"Perhaps things can be done to change (the FIA's) minds before the next hour is up. The group of nine teams have today decided to have this race because what is important is you have 120,000 people around here and millions on television who need to see a race. Whether it counts towards the Championship or not remains to be seen."

Douchebags those in Ferrari, good thing I hated them even before.


Now these throwings of bottles and other crap can be dangerous.

What a sham of a race.

Its an absolute discrace. The fans should be have their tickets refunded. I was even thinking of going to Canada and the US for the two GPs and im glad i didnt go - though a few friends did travel over.

I hate Ferrari with a passion. Cant believe this will launch Schumacher into the championship race for no reason whatsoever.

Anyway - its almost 5am here so i better get some sleep before work.

Dont blame Ferrari
Blame the FIA for bringing in these ridiculous rules about the tyres. Ferrari have suffered because of these rules ALL YEAR, but couldnt do anything about it. You cant expect them to show any sympathy now the other tyre manufacturer is screwing up. they didnt get any sympathy!

And even if Ferrari hadnt vetoed, it wouldnt have mattered because the FIA were not gonna change the rules, and allow the track to be changed.

Also the changing of the track would have given an ADVANTAGE to the other teams and made the race DISADVANTed for the 3 teams that did start.

None of the cars should have started(including the Bridgestone cars). This is a farce(to quote Minardi boss Paul Stoddart).
Starting a race with only 6 cars is the most silly thing ever happened to F1.

Ultimately 2 partys are to blame
1) FIA for changing the rules this year about the tyres
2) Michelline for making crappy tyres

The teams were ridiculously stupid if they thought the Bridgestone teams would allow them to add a chicane and harm their own chances.

Officially a F1 race only start with a grid of at least 20 cars...
The Michelins shouldn't have driven the warmup lap.

But however, I hope Indianapolis drops off the F1 calendar. It's a real boring track.

it was something about Michelin tyres, they didnt hold up in the 13th turn, like Ralph S. proved going to the Hospital, its all FIAs fault, they are a bunch of idiot bastards.

As for the Indy track, its a boring race, thats like a nascar race, running in circles..... .

as for the victory in the race......Tiago Monteiro is the real Winner, GO TIAGO, PORTUGAL IS WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Bring back Portugal to the world championchip F1 , we deserve it, and or track RULES

Celebrating his third position was a big shame... of course it's great to get your first podium... but not during these kinds of circumstances... If Eddie Jordan was still the team boss he even pulled his cars out of the race, like Minardi's Stoddart was planning to do...
The best thing about Portugal racing is their exciting circuit Estoril.

i was talking about Estoril .

I think it wasnt shame at all that he celebrated, the other teams had given up, he just caught the oportunity, if it was me i'd do the same, its the war of tyres, some times the other side wins......

Hopefully - the French GP will get things back to normal next week.

Estoril hasnt been around for a while - you never know it may come back soon! Im aiming to go to the Belgian GP this year, will be my second of the year after Melbourne.

everything but the Indy track , Monaco is quite bad too.

that indy track is quite horrible. needs to go man.

Indy is the most boring track/race of the whole season.
Monaco, Spa, Hockenheim and Monza are simply the best. Nurburgring is quite interesting too.

i hate monaco too.

hungary has a bad rep but i think it makes for good races. so does imola from time to time.

I use to absolutely adore Portugal .. great long straights there. they got rid of it : (

You couldnt have F1 without Monaco! Its also no coincidence that the Monaco race for the last five years has been one of the best races for each of those years. This years race was the best of the year so far.

Imola and Hungary are usually the most boring - though Imola was good this year (bar Kimi's mechanical failure) and Hungary uesed to be good back in the late 90s - 97 and 98).

I think the big problems is the car regs (and too big a reliance on aerodynamics) - they just dont alow for overtaking. SIlverstone usually has plenty of overtaking but Kimi couldnt get past the slower M Schumacher and Trulli - its the disturbed air behind the cars.
Thankfully the "too much aero" problem will be resolved in the next couple of years.

This past week has seen some strides made in teh teams relations with the FIA and thats good considering a split would have killed the sport. Also the FIA is finally listening to the fans and the proposed changes for 2008 seem to be headed in the right driection.

Now all we need is a couple of DNFs for Alonso and wins for Kimi to get the championship on track!! GO KIMI!!!!

Was at the Belgian GP last weekend for the tail end of my European tour. Absolutely awesome time. And my fave driver Kimi won aswell. Shame the championship is basically out of reach - as this year the best driver (Kimi) will not win the championship thanks to the Mclarens horrible reliability.

The Belgian track is incredible. Sat above Eu Rouge - the last great corner in F1 and watched part of the weekend all over the track - great corners like Blanchimont, Le Combes, Stavelot, Bus Stop and Pouhon.

Oh and Belgian girls have the most inredible big brown eyes!!!!

And Tiago Monteiro got an 8th place, that guy can really make wonders with shitty cars, if they give him an competitive car......

Anyone watched todays Japanese GP??

It had to be one of the best grands prix in a long long time. Kimi proved why he is this years rightful World Champ with his win starting from the back of the grid and overtaking Fisichella for the lead on the last lap!! AWESOME!!!!!!

good race. but kimi isn't the rightful champ. alonso was better. it isn't just about how well you can do in a few races, its about how consistent you remained. alonso nursed his car throughout the season, even when his teammate couldn't finished. he really was a champion this year ... deserved every bit of it. mclaren and kimi made too many mistakes beginning of the season and then towards the latter, with the engines.

Alonso had the more reliable car. Mclaren screwed up with the engines reliability. I agree that the first few races lost it for Mclaren. As for mistakes - Nurburgring for Kimi and Canada for Alonso cancel each other out. I cant see Kimi as being inconsistent - he's weakest races being Melbourne and Nurburgring. Otherwise from Imola onwards he either won the race or would have won it if it werent for unreliability or silly grid penalties brought on by engine failure. Even in Brazil Mclaren screwed up his pit strategy and put 6 laps extra worth of fuel half way - yet he still finished a close 2nd to Montoya. Anyway that is what F1 is about - the whole package and circumstances. Hopefully the rivalry will continue for years to come.

kimi certainly was great ... definetely .. but still .. i think alonso is the well deserved champion here. the most important thing wasn't just the fact that renault was reliable, it was also how alonso made sure the car never screwed up. kimi raced great but with each race, it took a toll on his engine and he kept having to move back 10 grid spots.

Exactly. Im not saying Alonso isnt deserving - just bit upset with Mclaren/Mercedes for the lack of reliability in Kimi's car. Also Mclaren really lost it with the problems encountered in the first 4 races. I was there in Melbourne when the rain came down during qualifying. It all went downhill from there that weekend.

Regardless, although I wanted Kimi to win the WDC, i think Renault were more deservant of the Constrcuctors championship.

BTW - after a great Japanese GP, what a snoozefest China was!!?

Hopefully next year will be even more competitive!!