Who is it? How do they rank?

Here are a few:

Joe Montana
Steve Young
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
John Elway
Brett Favre
Troy Aikman


My rankings:

1. Tom Brady
2. Peyton Manning
3. Brett Favre
4. Joe Montana
5. John Elway

Mine probably go

Montana
Unitas
Elway
Favre
Marino


I don't put Peyton and Brady up there yet. Just for lack of experience. When Favre breaks Elway's all time win record he might jump ahead of him.

Well considering you aren't considering any older quarterbacks, I have to check some numbers but maybe Dan Fouts for numbers, Terry Bradshaw for wins and for one year before he got hurt Joe Namath who might have been the best with his quick rockert arm before his knees got hurt.

Top 3 QB of All Time

#1 Montana (the best all around)
#2 Marino (amazing stats)
#3 Unitas (great in his time)


Starr,Griese,Favre,Blanda,Staubach,Troy,Brett,Moon,Bradshaw,Elway,Kelly,Fouts,Young & Tarkenton.

Marinos great stats which are all about to be broken by Favre.

No love for Brady and Manning?

Seriously?

Brady has 3 championships, and is 10-1 in the playoffs.

Manning is going to break every regular season record ever.

You're watching history in the making people!!!

They're too young, but both are definitely Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

Usually the older players get more dap cause we saw how their entire career went. Who knows, Brady may end up sucking the rest of his career. He'll still be a Hall of Famer but it would take him out of "greatest ever" consideration.

I don't consider guys still in the prime of their careers.

No love for Brady and Manning?

Seriously?

Brady has 3 championships, and is 10-1 in the playoffs.

Manning is going to break every regular season record ever.

You're watching history in the making people!!!

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saying tom brady is the greatest quarterback of all time is like saying kobe bryant is the greatest player ever in the nba. maybe in the future... but now???? no way.


bradshaw, montana, unitas, marino, elway, favre, and otto graham are all better than brady.


as for manning... until he wins a super bowl or puts up amazing career numbers, hes no better than most your quarterbacks in the nfl.

Im not saying he's the best ever, but that's ludicrous. In fact, I am pretty sure he is better than most Quarterbacks in the NFL. Brady and Favre are the only ones playing right now that you could say are better than Peyton Manning.

Unless you were referring to Eli Manning, for some reason.

yes, but lets say he had a career ending injury this sunday. to say hes one of the greatest quarterbacks in nfl history is ridiculous.


sure, hes one of the best quarterbacks in the nfl now, but guess what? the nfl is based on how many super bowls you win, not how good your numbers are. marino is only that good because he destroyed records when he did so. i wouldnt put marino on the very top of the list anyway.

peyton manning has to win the big games before hes even listed as a "great quarterback".

He's a great article...

Brady And Manning

note the headline of the article says "will" not "are"

like i said before, if both of them come down with season-ending injuries, they arent even a thought of the greatest qb's ever.

brady would be close, that i would agree with... but manning, no way.

Look, if you want to consider Peyton Manning, then you must do the following:

- Separate the skill portion from the Clutch/Championship/Pressure aspect. Because Peyton clearly hasn't shown that.

But you can't do that.

Even if you COULD separate the two (which, again, you can't), then I would take Marino over Peyton. Peyton is the most skilled, most intelligent, hardest working QB in todays league ... but the guy chokes on a chicken bone each and every year. He has done so ever since PREP SCHOOL!! Clearly that raises a red flag. The guy can't win the big game. If that changes, then everything changes.


As for Brady, he throws too many INT's for my liking. This is by far his best year INT to TD ratio wise, but that's mainly because he isn't throwing nearly as much. Don't get me wrong, amazing QB, ice water for blood, but the best ever? Not yet.

Personally I say it should be between Montana and Elway, but that's just me.

If he plays one more season he'll get them all most likely.
The big one (most tds) he'll get this year.

Marino
Attempt 8358
Completions 4967
Yards 61,361
TD's 420

Favre (as of last sunday)
Attempt 7874
Completions 4829
Yards 55,276
TD's 406

Well yeah, that's obvious. You just made it sound like he isn't anything special compared to any of the other QBs playing today. Which is what I was reacting to. Definitely can't crown any QB still young in their careers as one of the greatest of all time, yet. Brady or Manning both can just get a horrible injury, or just end up sucking the rest of their careers.

Winning does matter. If both Brady and Manning were to have career ending injuries this season, I think Brady would still get in the hall of fame while Manning may miss out.

Despite Brady's 3 super bowls and Mannings insane numbers for the beginning of his career, they can't be annointed in "greatest ever" discussions just yet. Give them 5-10 more years and maybe then they can enter the discussion.

Look, if you want to consider Peyton Manning, then you must do the following:

- Separate the skill portion from the Clutch/Championship/Pressure aspect. Because Peyton clearly hasn't shown that.

But you can't do that.

Even if you COULD separate the two (which, again, you can't), then I would take Marino over Peyton. Peyton is the most skilled, most intelligent, hardest working QB in todays league ... but the guy chokes on a chicken bone each and every year. He has done so ever since PREP SCHOOL!! Clearly that raises a red flag. The guy can't win the big game. If that changes, then everything changes.


As for Brady, he throws too many INT's for my liking. This is by far his best year INT to TD ratio wise, but that's mainly because he isn't throwing nearly as much. Don't get me wrong, amazing QB, ice water for blood, but the best ever? Not yet.

Personally I say it should be between Montana and Elway, but that's just me.
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i agree completely.

also, you have to admit that 2 of those super bowl wins come from a kicker's foot rather than the arm of a quarterback.

The kicker doesn't get the team into field goal range.

btw Vinateri is going to the hall of fame too.

Despite Brady's 3 super bowls and Mannings insane numbers for the beginning of his career, they can't be annointed in "greatest ever" discussions just yet. Give them 5-10 more years and maybe then they can enter the discussion.
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that i agree with.

The kicker doesn't get the team into field goal range.

btw Vinateri is going to the hall of fame too.
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i could also say that a great quarterback gets his team in the end zone rather than let a kicker seal the deal.

may i remind you that the tuck rule caused tom brady's success?

also... the first year they won the super bowl, tom brady was injured during the championship game against the steelers and drew bledsoe opened a can of whoopass on my boys and won that game.

i attribute adam vinateri to 2 of those super bowl wins exclusively.

Except at the end of a game when quarterbacks get into field goal range the coach calls conservative plays that help curtail any touchdown passes and play just for the safe field goal.

And yes, Brady's 350 yard, 3 touchdown game against Carolina had nothing to do with the Patriots winning. Nor his 236 yard 2 touchdown performance against Philidalphia with both games havine a 100+ QB rating.

Billy Joe Tolliver

[font=century gothic]Joe Montana
Johnny Unitas
Terry Bradshaw
Warren Moon
John Elway
Troy Aikman
Dan Marino

Honorable mentions: Jim Kelly, Steve Young, Brett Farve, Phil Sims, Joe Namath (For that one Super Bowl win which led to the merger)

Honorable mentions that will eventually be on the list: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Tony Romo.[/font]

How Can Anyone Say 'what If They Start Sucking?' That Doesn't Just Happen!

Elway now; will be Manning.