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Author:  billybobjoelll [ Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:33 am ]
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General discussion of the WBC:

Author:  neo_wolf [ Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:58 pm ]
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Puerto Rico is dominating everyone they face.

PR #1!

Analysts said they didnt stand a chance against international king cuba,we beat cuba 12-2,they said there was no way in hell we would beat the favorite domican republic,we beat them 7-1.We are unbeaten so far in the toughest pool.

Author:  neo_wolf [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:06 am ]
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PR lost to venezuela,now they are all tied in group 2. Ven and DR will decide who of them will go to the semis when they play tomorrow and PR is going to decide with cuba who of them goes to the semis,that game is on wed.

Author:  Jmart [ Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:14 am ]
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I haven't been watching much of the Classic, but today I did get to see a good chunk of the Cuba/Dominican Republic game. David Ortiz hit probably the longest home run that I can remember seeing. I also saw the controversy involving an anti Fidel Castro sign that was shown during the game and caused a huge uproar in the stands. I'm suprised ESPN actually showed it.

I'm not really rooting for anyone (USA I guess), but I'm rooting for all of the Red Sox players to do well. Varitek, Ortiz and even Adam Stern have all had good games.

Author:  neo_wolf [ Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:26 am ]
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What a suprise,pr lost in the end... :roll:

That shit happens all the time to a rican team when they have a chance to win,i was expecting the dissapointment.

Author:  DP07 [ Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:00 am ]
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:lol: The US is out. Fitting with the way so many American players didn't care enough to join.

I care more about this then the World Series honestly. 8 years ago I was a huge Baseball and Rockies fan; at the end of 1998 I could name you who they played and where for each game, and whether they won. I knew most of the scores as well. I stopped caring in recent years. I had not watched a single baseball game on TV in almost 2 years - until this week. This is much more interesting the MLB IMO. I want to see the Dominicans or the Japanese win. I'm a bit surprised that PR lost and that Korea made it this far.

Author:  DP07 [ Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:05 am ]
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/w ... index.html

Quote:
Better than advertised
World Baseball Classic has been unqualified success

Right about now that mysterious, spelling-challenged Yankees employee who took a gratuitous shot at the World Baseball Classic with that don't-blame-us sign at Legends Field in Tampa needs a spell checker, a clue and an apology, not necessarily in that order. Where are the WBC naysayers now, hoping some major leaguer blows out a knee or rotator cuff just for an "I told you so" (though spring training camps are full of the usual injuries this year)?

Only a baseball grinch or a Yankees executive couldn't love the WBC now that it has unfolded in all its flag-waving, goose-bump-raising, alert-the-embassy glory. Those of you who still prefer the alternative -- say, a split-squad Royals-Rangers game stocked with players wearing the numbers of offensive linemen and some No. 5 starter blabbering, "I got my work in" -- should also know about this new thing called the Internet, in which you can get news any time rather than waiting for Walter Cronkite to come on the console television.

What baseball has done with the WBC is hit the bull's-eye in its aim to grow the game internationally. And once enough provincial Americans, the last ones to get on the bus, come around to the idea that this isn't just about television ratings -- the be-all arbiter of importance in our society -- the WBC will grow exponentially. You'll know it's arrived when America gives it the ultimate compliment: the office pool. Nothing says "sports hit" in this country quite like gambling.

In the first week of games, an 18-year-old threw a no-hitter; the United States has been on the brink of being knocked out of the tournament twice; prideful Japan classified a loss to Korea as a shame and one to the U.S. as a pity; Hiram Bithorn Stadium in San Juan, stocked with both passion and two kinds of whiskey at the concession stands, was a drum-banging Caribbean festival; the Mexican game outdrew the U.S. game Sunday in Anaheim by 10,000 people; Seung-Yeop Lee of Korea, who is known as the Lion King, slugged 1.353; and anti-Castro fans and an American umpire each created international incidents 3,000 miles apart.

It's been fascinating to see that the world isn't so small that baseball has been homogenized. Quite the contrary: Each country has brought its own spin on how to play the game. The Cubans, for instance, play with a flamboyant machismo that major leaguers interpret as showboating, full of outsized gestures and emotion.

The Japanese are the idiosyncratic stylemasters, a nation of players Charlie Finley would love, with their white shoes, dyed hair, funky necklaces, garish sunglasses, silver-and-copper-colored gloves and -- I'm not making this up -- practice bats that look like four-color, ringed croquet mallets. They also take infield practice with every position player on the roster before games (some major leaguers have forgotten what taking infield actually is), take practice grounders during pitching changes and practice infield pop-ups during batting practice, a seemingly dangerous routine in the event a line drive is smoked the way of a fielder looking skyward at a pop-up.

Moreover, every position player on the Japanese team throws right-handed, but seven of their nine hitters on Sunday batted left-handed -- the right-handed thrower/left-handed batter combination being the sport's ideal.

We know and see none of this if we get yet another too-long, routine spring training.

Still not convinced? You haven't been within miles of all those smiles on the U.S. team. If you want your millionaire players to dive for pop-ups, run the bases with abandon, watch the entire game like Little Leaguers from the top step of the dugout and play the game for pride and for fun, just like American Legion ball -- all for what's chump change to them -- the WBC is your ticket to happiness. To a man, the U.S. players have raved about the experience. Chipper Jones, a World Series champion and MVP, called the WBC "the best baseball experience of my life -- bar none."

Jones made that comment on Sunday in a concrete hallway trafficked by food service personnel outside a spartan clubhouse beneath the left-field stands at Angel Stadium. The U.S. was sent to this relative gulag (as measured against their accustomed leather-appointed, multi-plasma-TV, finely catered clubhouse accommodations) by virtue of being the Pool B runner-up. Korea and Mexico, the Pool A and B winners, earned the usual home and visiting clubhouses. It was a kick to see the star-studded U.S. team walking in from the outfield to the game with equipment bags slung on their shoulders like a high school team just off the bus.

Attendance has been good, but below original expectations. But it's a walk-up kind of tournament. Buying tickets in advance for any game after the first round is a crap shoot; you don't know which two teams will wind up in a particular slot. The gate, however, is not as important as the world wide attention, which is a success considering that the 4,000 media credentials issued for the Classic blow away the Olympics and World Series brigades.

Merchandise is flying off the shelves and out of warehouses. Souvenir shirts and jerseys were wiped out at Scottsdale Stadium last Friday nearly an hour into the U.S. game against South Africa. More merchandise was sold in the first round than organizers projected for the entire 17-day event. On March 10 alone, people in Orlando bought Venezuelan jerseys at a rate faster than one every six seconds -- more than 300 were sold in less than 30 minutes. That same day in Puerto Rico, fans bought 2,500 caps.

This somehow is bad for baseball? Yes, people have been hurt, though if you're keeping tabs solely on major leaguers, you might not have noticed. Korea third baseman Dong Joo Kim hurt his left shoulder diving back into first base in a first-round game. He was one of five players declared disabled and replaced on a WBC roster since the tournament began. It happens in Olympic hockey, too. Nothing great ever happened without a risk attached to it. In this case the risk/reward ratio is heavily favored toward action. Doing nothing is always the safe thing to do -- that is, if stagnation is your bag.

Got a problem with the pitch counts? You can't be anti-WBC because of the risk of injury and whine about pitch counts, which are designed specifically to minimize risk to pitchers. Besides, the pitch counts and the tie-breaker system (after head-to-head, it's runs allowed among the tied teams) give a cool quirkiness to the games.

I liked the idea of this tournament from the start. In practice, it's even better than I thought. Last Friday, watching the U.S. play in a sold-out minor league park in Scottsdale, I thought how this would be the last time the U.S. team played in such a small venue in the WBC. I mean, how does a game with no-doubt Hall of Famers Roger Clemens, Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez and Ken Griffey Jr. on the same team rate a smaller venue than a Diamondbacks-Rockies game in August? It was like watching Springsteen at the Stone Pony.

Starting times could be tweaked a bit and ESPN could do a better job of giving the WBC a real home, complete with some kind of WBC Central, rather than forcing viewers to hunt for the darn games. Major league umpires need to be there. These flaws will be fixed.

The next WBC will be held in 2009 (to get off the same timing as the Olympics and World Cup) and then every four years thereafter. That means the older players who turned a shoulder to the tournament -- Randy Johnson, Curt Schilling, Barry Bonds, John Smoltz, etc. -- probably won't get a mulligan. And the younger guys who missed out on the fun will be fighting each other for roster spots in 2009.

In the press box during that U.S.-South Africa game, I was talking with Steve Hirdt of the Elias Sports Bureau when he made a sharp observation: "Next year we'll all be missing the World Baseball Classic.'' He's right. In the non-Classic years we'll miss the tension, the competition, the nationalism, the intrigue and the excitement of discovery -- new players, new styles, new trippy bats from the Japanese. It's apparent from the start: We have an instant classic.

Author:  DP07 [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:16 am ]
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So, Japan and Cuba. Funny that the two teams in the finals are the ones without a bunch of Major Leaguers. Not that it's to surprising; but are good teams.

Author:  Chippy [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:44 am ]
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Well, I think it's pretty much over.

Japan is leading Cuba, 9-5 in the Top of the 9th inning

Cuba will need some GREAT luck

Author:  Rev [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:52 am ]
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w00 h00! :D Go Japan :towel:

anything :tongue: to piss off Castro.

Author:  DP07 [ Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:07 pm ]
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I'm happy for the Japanese team. It was a great month for Baseball as a sport IMO.

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