Multiple offers from the same team. As in going back to the Yankees a second time.

But he didn't bother as Lee shouldn't either.

And again, how do you know that? Maybe the Yankees decided to go after Lee instead of Crawford?

Daa. Well as he was the #1 Player on the Market, especially with the #2 Werth signing already, he signed very quickly within a week, without waiting at all.

So you agree with me. Good, that settles it.

Not at all, you fool.

As you are defending the total opposite ways that Crawford and Lee are/went about signing a contract.

Really stupid, but whatever as I am watching football.

Except they didn't go about it in opposite ways. You're only assuming Crawford didn't. You haven't actually provided any proof to prove me wrong.

Daa again. Yes I did.

As how many days did Crawford wait to sign with only him and Lee as the big ones.

And right now, whoever doesn't get Lee could offer bigger dollars...among for starterd Yankees Red Sox Angels Rangers.

That would be 3 teams going after him to match whoever signed Lee.

But no Crawford signed right away.

Adam Dunn, Victor Martinez, Jason Werth, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, and Juan Uribe would probably disagree with you. Notice a pattern though? There's a reason as to why Crawford and Lee are the last two big names left - there are more suitors. And Lee is playing it smart. Why wouldn't he want to see how the market was shaping out? Again, he and his agent are looking in his best interest.



Crawford was going to get the same amount of money whether he went before or after Lee. Lee, because he was a pitcher, was smart enough to wait and try to milk as much money as possible since pitchers don't tend to get paid as highly as position players do. Crawford's signing set the market in terms of a ceiling, meaning at the most Lee is getting $160 million. If he had waited, that number might have been at least $40 million lower. It's common business sense.

Blah blah blah. As none of those guys were in Crawfords shoes, being the #1 player free agent.

And Werth, #3, only got that # as Washington wanted a big player.

And LOL, now I know you are clueless with your 40 Million less for Lee. As with the Yankees and the Rangers biding, the $ # was locked in. As Lee was getting CC $

About 23 - 25 Million for 6 - 7 Years.

So is he in Crawford's shoes or isn't he?



True. I got the $40 million screwed up. I meant worst case scenario number (for a base starting point), but the number was always going to go up with the bidding. But again, if that number was locked in, what problem do you have with what Lee's doing? Why wouldn't he hold out? Your argument makes no sense.

Lol @ Grill and the Yankees. Maybe next time don't spit on a potential players wife?

And for five years and $100 million?

Smart move. He wants to win and the Phillies were the only team that had $100 million to spend that has a legitimate chance of winning next year...and the next five years.

With Cliff Lee and Halliday, there is no way the Phillies are not going to the World Series. I like how on the Angels site, it said, the Angels are the winners (mainly because we never have to face the Phillies this year, and we kept Texas and the Yankees away from them).

Yup I was going to point out the same thing.

But he went to the Phillies, who pour beer on cops and their kids in the stands.

PS. Anyway a smart decision.

The Yankees are getting old in key positions. Jeter is going to suck long before the end of his contract and Rodriguez isn't getting any younger. Their pitching is weak outside of Sabithia, so I wouldn't say they are guaranteed the playoffs the next five years.

I'm soooooooooooo glad Cliff chose a team other than the NYY!

LOL. Well I am glad he picked the Phillies over Texas. Now the Rangers can go back to suking like the Cowboys. LOL.

Why do people act like the Yankees are the only team that spends money in baseball? The Phillies starting rotation is worth like 400 mill now.

The A's sign Matsui. Some A's fans are happy, but others are concerned cause of his weak knees and the fact that Cust is about as good as him for less cash. Let's see if he holds up (last year, he had a typical Matsui year).

I would say there are like 5-6 teams that spend a lot of money: Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, and Dodgers are all good examples.

Mets are another. They're just awful at it.

1 New York Yankees 206,738,389
2 Boston Red Sox 160,913,333
3 Chicago Cubs 146,609,000
4 Philadelphia Phillies 142,728,379
5 New York Mets 136,022,942
6 Detroit Tigers 122,864,928
7 Chicago White Sox 105,530,000
8 Los Angeles Angels 104,161,666
9 San Francisco Giants 98,586,333
10 Los Angeles Dodgers 95,358,016
11 St. Louis Cardinals 93,940,751
12 Houston Astros 92,355,500
13 Minnesota Twins 90,309,166
14 Seattle Mariners 86,910,000
15 Atlanta Braves 84,423,666
16 Colorado Rockies 83,172,000
17 Baltimore Orioles 81,202,500
18 Milwaukee Brewers 81,108,278
19 Tampa Bay Rays 72,323,471
20 Kansas City Royals 71,405,210
21 Cincinnati Reds 68,200,542
22 Washington Nationals 62,349,000
23 Toronto Blue Jays 61,484,400
24 Cleveland Indians 60,778,966
25 Florida Marlins 55,239,500
26 Texas Rangers 55,168,114
27 Oakland Athletics 50,839,900
28 Arizona Diamondbacks 48,452,166
29 San Diego Padres 38,199,300
30 Pittsburgh Pirates 34,933,000

This is the 2010 payroll info. I assume it's at the start of the season, so alot of those $90M+ teams probably were bumped over the century mark.

If some of these other teams would spend the money to keep their all star free agents then the Yankees and Red Sox wouldn't be able to sign everyone. There's no salary cap, what are they waiting for?

I'm pretty sure that's why the Pirates haven't had a winning season in over 18 years......and Oh Yeah I guess the terrible management isn't helping either.

It is more than just a cap that is needed. Baseball needs revenue sharing like the NFL and NBA. The Yankees and Red Sox shouldn't keep all of their merchandise money. It should be shared with the other teams since MLB is one entity. If they did and added a cap the Pirates, Royals, and Brewers could compete.

If you can't afford to pay the players then sell the team to Mark Cuban or some other eccentric billionaire. Cold weather cities will come see their team if it's a winning team.

And there are so many things baseball needs to fix it's impractical to list them all.