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guti wrote:
We are going to do la liga also right????


Yes, 3 big matches. And serie a

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can we include Super Liga Galp Energia (Portuguese league), i know i might be the only portuguese in here but maybe someone is interested :tongue: .

It begins this weekend (starting on Friday)

F.C. PORTO - E. Amadora
V. Guimarães - Naval
Penafiel - Rio Ave
U. Leiria - Sp. Braga
SPORTING - Belenenses
Gil Vicente - Marítimo
Académica - BENFICA
P. Ferreira - Nacional
Boavista - V. Setúbal

the ones in big are the major clubs.
as for me , i hope SPORTING wins this year, we were great in europe UEFA CUP last year :D

enjoy.

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i'll post the results as they finish :)

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can we include Super Liga Galp Energia (Portuguese league), i know i might be the only portuguese in here but maybe someone is interested :tongue: .



I´m not sure... I know it sounds amazing (and shameful) but being so close, I know nothing of portuguese football apart form the fact that only 3 teams seem to win everything (Sporting, Porto and Benfica) and that spanish coaches don´t seem to do that well there. ;)

In short: I couldn´t distingish a mid-table team from a relagation one the way I can do in Spain, Italy and England... or think I can.

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can we include Super Liga Galp Energia (Portuguese league), i know i might be the only portuguese in here but maybe someone is interested :tongue: .



I´m not sure... I know it sounds amazing (and shameful) but being so close, I know nothing of portuguese football apart form the fact that only 3 teams seem to win everything (Sporting, Porto and Benfica) and that spanish coaches don´t seem to do that well there. ;)

In short: I couldn´t distingish a mid-table team from a relagation one the way I can do in Spain, Italy and England... or think I can.


no shame at all, besides the 3 major teams, only Braga, Boavista and Guimaraes are good.

but i'll tell ya one thing , the Portuguese is better then the Italian, football quality wise :).

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Sauron wrote:
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can we include Super Liga Galp Energia (Portuguese league), i know i might be the only portuguese in here but maybe someone is interested :tongue: .



I´m not sure... I know it sounds amazing (and shameful) but being so close, I know nothing of portuguese football apart form the fact that only 3 teams seem to win everything (Sporting, Porto and Benfica) and that spanish coaches don´t seem to do that well there. ;)

In short: I couldn´t distingish a mid-table team from a relagation one the way I can do in Spain, Italy and England... or think I can.


no shame at all, besides the 3 major teams, only Braga, Boavista and Guimaraes are good.

but i'll tell ya one thing , the Portuguese is better then the Italian, football quality wise :).


I´ll trust you on that. Then again, anything is more entertaining than italian football. ;)

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lets do only porto, sporting, and benefica:

F.C. PORTO 2 -0 E. Amadora

SPORTING 3-1 Belenenses

Académica 1-2 BENFICA



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guti wrote:
lets do only porto, sporting, and benefica:

F.C. PORTO 2 -0 E. Amadora

SPORTING 3-1 Belenenses

Académica 1-2 BENFICA


ok, thats great.


F.C. PORTO 3 -0 E. Amadora

SPORTING 2-0 Belenenses

Académica 1-1 BENFICA

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Sauron wrote:
but i'll tell ya one thing , the Portuguese is better then the Italian, football quality wise :).


Uhh, no. The Italian league is the strongest and most tactical in the world in my opinion. It might not be the most fun to watch, but it's the strongest.

Anyway I'm not going to participate in a Portuguese league competition as I know absolutely nothing about the teams there so I suggest we just keep the competitions seperate (i.e. an English competition, a Spanish competition, a Portuguese competition, etc.)..

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Spanish league: most entertaining

Italian league: Strongest

EPL: Most over-rated players, most boring, toughest, Best fans.

Portugese, Dutch: Most packed with young talents.










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EPL: Most over-rated players, most boring, toughest, Best fans.


Oh come on, you cant really say its the most boring. Seriously.
It's at the moment the best league in the world, surpassing La Liga maybe 1-2 seasons ago.

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guti wrote:
Spanish league: most entertaining

Italian league: Strongest

EPL: Most over-rated players, most boring, toughest, Best fans.


Portugese, Dutch: Most packed with young talents.


I completely agree with you, but I have to add something.

2 years ago, EPL was the most entertaining, strongest, and toughest. But since Abramovich took over Chelsea, it became really boring (anyway it's definitely not the most boring, the French league wins that title hands down) as there is no real competition. I guess Arsenal and Man U will be really lucky if they can be 15 points away from Chelsea by the end of the season.


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ahmed salem wrote:
guti wrote:
Spanish league: most entertaining

Italian league: Strongest

EPL: Most over-rated players, most boring, toughest, Best fans.


Portugese, Dutch: Most packed with young talents.


I completely agree with you, but I have to add something.

2 years ago, EPL was the most entertaining, strongest, and toughest. But since Abramovich took over Chelsea, it became really boring (anyway it's definitely not the most boring, the French league wins that title hands down) as there is no real competition. I guess Arsenal and Man U will be really lucky if they can be 15 points away from Chelsea by the end of the season.


its not because of Abramovich, its because of Jose Mourinho, he is a god training teams , its not his fault that the other coachs cant beat him :shades: .

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Sauron wrote:
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guti wrote:
Spanish league: most entertaining

Italian league: Strongest

EPL: Most over-rated players, most boring, toughest, Best fans.


Portugese, Dutch: Most packed with young talents.


I completely agree with you, but I have to add something.

2 years ago, EPL was the most entertaining, strongest, and toughest. But since Abramovich took over Chelsea, it became really boring (anyway it's definitely not the most boring, the French league wins that title hands down) as there is no real competition. I guess Arsenal and Man U will be really lucky if they can be 15 points away from Chelsea by the end of the season.


its not because of Abramovich, its because of Jose Mourinho, he is a god training teams , its not his fault that the other coachs cant beat him :shades: .


Well, Mourinho would have never trained Chelsea in the first place if he wasn't given all that money by Abramovich ;)

Murinho is great coach, but IMO a team with Lampard, Robben, Duff, Terry, Cole, Drogba and Crespo,... can win the EPL without even having a coach.


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BTW IF ANYONE WANTS ANY FOOTBALL VIDEOS OR HIGHLIGHTS TELL ME AND BE SPECIFIC PLEASE, IF YOU WANT ANY LEGENDS VIDEOS ALSO ASK HERE.


Can you post Marco Van Basten's goal in Russia in the final of the 1988 Europe Championship?


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Fixtures of the first leg of The Italian League, all the matches are on sunday, the 28th of August, and it seems the time is not determined yet.

Ascoli vs AC Milan
Fiorentina vs Sampadoria
Inter Milan vs Treviso
Juventos vs Chievo Verona
Lazio vs Messina
Liverno vs Lecce
Parma vs Palermo
Reggina vs Roma
Siena vs Cagliari
Udinese vs Empoli

Somehow easy matches for the big teams.

Fixtures of all the season


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Fixtures of the first leg of the Spanish league. All the mtaches are also on the 28th of August, and also the time is not determined yet.

Valencia vs Real Betis
Sevilla vs Racing De Santender
Osasuna vs Villarreal
Mallorca vs Deportivo La Coruna
Eapanyol vs Getafe
Celta De Vigo vs Malaga
Cadiz vs Real Madrid
Atletco De Mardid vs Zaragoza
Athletic De Bilbao vs Real Sociedad
Alaves vs Barcelona

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Ok, do people want to predict the portuguese league as well? If we are not convinced, there is always the chance of doing one portuguese match every week, to round out the number of predicted matches to ten.. kind of like a bonus.

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ahmed salem wrote:
guti wrote:
BTW IF ANYONE WANTS ANY FOOTBALL VIDEOS OR HIGHLIGHTS TELL ME AND BE SPECIFIC PLEASE, IF YOU WANT ANY LEGENDS VIDEOS ALSO ASK HERE.


Can you post Marco Van Basten's goal in Russia in the final of the 1988 Europe Championship?


I can and i will:

http://www.peoplesgame.com/VideoFiles/s ... Final.mpeg

Amazing goal.

anymore requests???


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Seria a:

Ascoli 0 vs 3 AC Milan
Inter Milan 2 vs 0 Treviso
Juventos 3 vs 1 Chievo Verona

La Liga:

Valencia 2 vs 3 Real Betis
Sevilla 2 vs 1 Racing De Santender
Osasuna 1 vs 3 Villarreal
Cadiz 1 vs 5 Real Madrid
Alaves 0 vs 3 Barcelona


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What matches are we doing, tell me so i can edit the above post.


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Thanks a lot guti, it's an awesome goal indeed.

I have another request, if you don't mind, Bergkamp's goal in Argentina in world cup 1998, the quarter final match that ended 2-1 for Netherlands.


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I agree that Italian while the strongest is really boring to watch. Spanish is entertaining.

(Almost) Never watched Portuguese. Jzst know a couple of teams.

What about Bundesliga (German)? They're getting better recently (just like the national team of Germany). Anyone dares to predict them?

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For all I care we could predict anything. Follow (atleast scores) most of the leagues...


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ahmed salem wrote:
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Spanish league: most entertaining

Italian league: Strongest

EPL: Most over-rated players, most boring, toughest, Best fans.


Portugese, Dutch: Most packed with young talents.


I completely agree with you, but I have to add something.

2 years ago, EPL was the most entertaining, strongest, and toughest. But since Abramovich took over Chelsea, it became really boring (anyway it's definitely not the most boring, the French league wins that title hands down) as there is no real competition. I guess Arsenal and Man U will be really lucky if they can be 15 points away from Chelsea by the end of the season.


its not because of Abramovich, its because of Jose Mourinho, he is a god training teams , its not his fault that the other coachs cant beat him :shades: .


Well, Mourinho would have never trained Chelsea in the first place if he wasn't given all that money by Abramovich ;)

Murinho is great coach, but IMO a team with Lampard, Robben, Duff, Terry, Cole, Drogba and Crespo,... can win the EPL without even having a coach.


I refute that, Mourinho with a couple of unknown players won UEFA Cup, and the champions league with FC Porto, he proved more than once that he can do wonders with "no Stars" players; when he went to FC Porto he was training Uniao de Leiria , and he left the team in 2nd place in the middle of the championship. So i can assume he really is THAT good.

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