Guybrush you win....Could we see your list or top 3 at least?

I didn't even say that. Looks like you didn't learn your lesson at all.

Aw, why did you edit your initial reply?

Because I knew that wasn't the point, and I would to see your list since you so strongly criticize mine for not knowing what im saying.

That's very unfortunate. After spending all that time reading my lengthy response (which I'm sure you did ), why did you still post a reply that missed the point in the first place?



I never criticized your list per se. The only thing I criticized was your flawed argumentation and your reasoning behind including certain players, while dismissing others.

I'd say my alltime soccer players top 3 would be rather similar to yours, as it would most likely include Pelé, Beckenbauer and Maradona as well, with players such as Cruyff, Ronaldinho and Zidane being runner-ups. However, I wouldn't dismiss a certain player without stating a profound reason for it, as opposed to saying "he sucks" or "he played one medicore world cup". That was my main concern with what you wrote, as it showed a lack of knowledge on the topic, which resulted in both such statements and a seemingly generic list.

Completely understand

Completely understand....I just do not like the idea of due to my age you argue with me due to the fact its much easier to use my age as a back drop.

Your age wasn't a "backdrop", but just one of several factors I listed. And you have to admit that it is indeed a justified objection, especially in a topic such as this one, which relies on a certain (live) experience to some degree.

Personally, I haven't been around long enough to witness players such as Di Stefano or even Best either. My live experience basically started around the time when Maradona dominated the game and shortly afterwards Matthäus. Plus, seeing as the German national teams of the 50s, 60s and 70s have a certain "folk hero" status here (with players such as Beckenbauer, Müller, F. Walter, Seeler or Netzer), we get to see alot of their matches from those days on TV, especially during the Euro or, like just recently, the World Cup days. Thus, I've seen games such as the 1974 World Cup final (Germany - Netherlands), the 1966 WC final (England - Germany) or the legendary 1970 semi-final (Germany vs. Italy) among others several times, which should be enough to judge the involved players at least to a certain degree.

However, the difference here is, that I wouldn't say players such as Di Stefano or Puskas, players that I haven't really witnessed playing myself, aside from a few short scenes on TV or from the internet, belong on this list no matter what, just because they have a certain reputation and are usually listed on such occasions, while the world's best player(s) right now don't deserve a place, just because they played one "non-legendary" world cup. That's just plain ignorant and superficial. A more detailled and differentiated consideration would be more appropriate here, as opposed to just listing the usual suspects without having any real knowledge on them, while leaving out others because they just made a not-so-perfect game just recently.

Yes, my age is a justified factor, but also I love soccer and little snippets like you said do not count, which is true as they only show you the best of a player. But I think that just because I am young, that does not mean that I could not have watched full length matches of players like that. I completely understand where you are coming from. But here just for you guybrush heres a list of players, farely recent that I have actually seen many games of them.

1. Maradona
2. Maldini
3. Platini
4. Baggio
5. Zidane

My cousin is a huge italian fan, so I have some Bias in my top 5.