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Squee wrote:
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I enjoyed the episode. I guess we know why those fences are up. Next week's episode looks better, I loved Sayid's line. I am not sure what is up with Jullet. Either she is telling the truth or Ben left her behind to spy on them.


I hope she is telling the truth, otherwise I think it would be really easy to spot ANOTHER spy, and would consequently think they are dumb if they don't.

Well if she is a spy, Sayid is already on to her. He obviously doesn't trust her and I don't blame him after the other problems they had.


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I think she is telling the truth. I don't think she would lie to Jack, either. Unfortunately, they seem to be the new couple on Lost... and I'm not really liking that, either.

But yeah, solid episode. Next week looks great, too.


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I think she is telling the truth. I don't think she would lie to Jack, either. Unfortunately, they seem to be the new couple on Lost... and I'm not really liking that, either.

But yeah, solid episode. Next week looks great, too.


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I thought it was pretty good. Nice to see the monster back again, and I liked the Kate/Juliet dynamic. Anyone notice how they got wet, then fell in the mud, then started wrestling? I hoped they would start kissing...

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Squee wrote:
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I think she is telling the truth. I don't think she would lie to Jack, either. Unfortunately, they seem to be the new couple on Lost... and I'm not really liking that, either.

But yeah, solid episode. Next week looks great, too.


Am I detecting a..... LOVE QUADRANGLE?!!?!?!

For it to be a real quadrangle, Jack would have to love Sawyer.


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So it looks like the monster like scanned Juliet.


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So it looks like the monster like scanned Juliet.


But how did it interpret what it saw? At first we see it retreat rapidly after scanning her, but later it's chasing after them. Seeing as how the gate is about 15-20 feet high, it makes me wonder why the monster couldn't simply move over it. I remember the producers saying some time ago we haven't seen it completely, and in the season one finale it definitely made robotic noises that did not sound like what we've heard otherwise. (Correct me if I'm wrong) But then again, it moves in a way and speed that makes me question what could be inside it.

I came in when Kate was talking to that other woman in the bar - did I miss anything important beforehand that the rest of the episode didn't cover? For my money, that's the least nessecary flashback we've had this season. The episode was on par with the Jack one we had a few weeks back.

Still, I'm glad I've stopped watching the previews for next week's episodes.


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I don't know if you came in on time, but the woman who Kate was working with was the same woman whom Sawyer fell in love with and conned in The Long Con, and is the mother of his illegitimate child.

I actually thought it was a pretty interesting flashback sequence because of the painfully obvious connections to Kate's love life on the island.

Re: the monster. The shape of the monster doesn't surprise me since The Cost of Living when the monster picked up Eko and banged him against a tree. Interesting that the "scanning" was white light. Locke says that he saw the monster as "white light" but Eko disagreed with him because he saw the black smoke.


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andaroo.temp wrote:
I don't know if you came in on time, but the woman who Kate was working with was the same woman whom Sawyer fell in love with and conned in The Long Con, and is the mother of his illegitimate child.

I actually thought it was a pretty interesting flashback sequence because of the painfully obvious connections to Kate's love life on the island.

Re: the monster. The shape of the monster doesn't surprise me since The Cost of Living when the monster picked up Eko and banged him against a tree. Interesting that the "scanning" was white light. Locke says that he saw the monster as "white light" but Eko disagreed with him because he saw the black smoke.


Yeah, knowing that about the woman definitely adds some layers I hadn't realized to the situation. At this point though I'm so used to having the flashbacks be nice metaphors for what's happening on the island that this one left me cold. Or maybe it's just because Kate has always been my least favorite characters, not the least of which because she happens to remind me of somone I knew.

Good catch on what Locke said, I had been wondering about that moment, as I have yet to really see the monster in a light that would strike me as being so beautiful, or the heart of the island for that matter. I'm still not sure how I feel about the creature essentially being a shapeshifter. It works with where the show is now, but having not seen season one in it's entirety in a loong time, I wonder how much it fits in with the show at that time.


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Now that was a great episode. They should have simply removed last weeks episode and then put this one in its place. The story would have gone together much more smoothly. I wonder where Locke is going with the others? Possibly to the magic box?

Next weeks looks great with some possible Sayid torturing again! :biggrin:

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MovieDude wrote:
andaroo.temp wrote:
So it looks like the monster like scanned Juliet.


But how did it interpret what it saw? At first we see it retreat rapidly after scanning her, but later it's chasing after them. Seeing as how the gate is about 15-20 feet high, it makes me wonder why the monster couldn't simply move over it. I remember the producers saying some time ago we haven't seen it completely, and in the season one finale it definitely made robotic noises that did not sound like what we've heard otherwise. (Correct me if I'm wrong) But then again, it moves in a way and speed that makes me question what could be inside it.

I came in when Kate was talking to that other woman in the bar - did I miss anything important beforehand that the rest of the episode didn't cover? For my money, that's the least nessecary flashback we've had this season. The episode was on par with the Jack one we had a few weeks back.

Still, I'm glad I've stopped watching the previews for next week's episodes.[/quote
I think you missed Locke telling Kate he was leaving. So is he becoming one of the others? Or is he simply wanting to spend time with his father?


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Good episode. The whole Kate is handcuffed to Juliet and they fall in mud was immature but fun anyway. Sawyer was well written, as he has been since the new set started this year. One thing I really like this second part of the season is how they are making the main characters likeable again, including in their backstories. One of the things that turned me off the series was one backstory after another showing them as either emasculated or a murderer and such.

I didn't want them to go back to the camp at the end because I'd rather see what it would be like for Sawyer to be the leader for a few episodes, that was a cool twist to the dynamic and now it might get cut short.

Last week's episode in hindsight was just a comic relief light episode to break up the heavier ones, that's probably a good idea.

A couple of lines I loved: Sawyer's telling Claire her baby is less wrinkled, and Kate telling Juliet something like "welcome to the world of not knowing what the hell is going on." They should use that line in a general Lost commercial mixed with flashes of other dramatic stuff.

I don't really care what the big answer is anymore, I'm just glad the storytelling mojo is back and it's something that most weeks doesn't make me regret turning it on.

Also, Ben better not be gone forever or we'll miss his sarcasm.


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I just watched this episode and so many questions like is she a spy; why was Jack left in the room where the 2 girls handcuffed and moved. Maybe so they could fake bond? and it is interesting how there was no trace of the others leaving? and that scene with the monster was as it seemed very angry. and still on last week, was Jack really going to leave; was he going to want to come back; was he able to even come back; and on Locke WTF? So many questions?

I wonder also what the future brings, is it going be everyone at the camp for awhile or are there other outside stories coming.


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There was one little part I thought was ridiculous which was when Juliet not only fended off a pipe to the face attack from Kate but then quickly flipped her onto the ground. It just wasn't believable, Juliet looks about as athletic as Bree from Desperate Housewives. But that's a minor thing in an otherwise good episode.


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No comments from Loyal, other than "Yippee, the monster!"?

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Mr. X wrote:
No comments from Loyal, other than "Yippee, the monster!"?
I'm more surprised there's no remarks from Libs. And Snrub too since we all know he secretly watches bootleg copies of this.


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Archie Gates wrote:
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No comments from Loyal, other than "Yippee, the monster!"?
I'm more surprised there's no remarks from Libs. And Snrub too since we all know he secretly watches bootleg copies of this.


I saw the episode (which was very good), but I was visiting some friends with my husband in North Carolina and had only periodic Internet access the past couple of days soooo


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According to Lost Spoilers there will be a "major" reveal of the storyline in every remaining episode of the season.

In two weeks, in D.O.C. (the Sun Jin Episode):

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After learning that the Others' pregnant woman all died before giving birth on the island, Sun allows Juliet to examine her; Desmond allows an unlikely nemesis to help save the life of a new, mysterious island inhabitant


That's certainly a significant piece of information. Explains somewhat about Claire and maybe why Juliet is on the island.

Also:

Rousseau will also get a Season 4 flashback.
Juliet may know more about the monster
Juliet has been banished


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Finally saw the preview for next show which looks great; Can't wait for Wed.


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andaroo.temp wrote:
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Rousseau will also get a Season 4 flashback.
Juliet may know more about the monster
Juliet has been banished


Good to know Rousseau will be sticking around till then. I always thought she'd be killed off by the end of Season 1, and expect it everytime she appears.

Juliet has been banished means... she was banished by the island people? Or has she been banished by the Others?

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Mr. X wrote:
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Rousseau will also get a Season 4 flashback.
Juliet may know more about the monster
Juliet has been banished


Good to know Rousseau will be sticking around till then. I always thought she'd be killed off by the end of Season 1, and expect it everytime she appears.

Juliet has been banished means... she was banished by the island people? Or has she been banished by the Others?


I think if Juliet's banished, Jack may leave with her.. you think?

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Korrgan... I think Juliet is already banished, that's why she's at the Losties camp... banished from the Others, not Jack's tribe.

Speculation:

I think one of the reasons why we'll get a Rousseau flashback in Season 4, and the reason we haven't gone one yet is I feel that the producers are about ready to unleash the disease on the islanders. There's a lot of interesting stuff with the disease starting with the Pilot Episode, all the way up to the more recent episodes.

Rousseau tells Sayid that the disease hit her shipmates about two months into their time on the island. The Losties are currently at day 82, fitting in right around the time this should start happening. Claire is already worried about the vaccine, Desmond is obviously not scared about it anymore, but I think there was a lot of symbolism in the door of the hatch (the one that said QUARANTINE) ending up on the beach with the Losties.

Questions abound... it'd be easily explained that the Others are maybe waiting for the disease to hit the Losties, taking care of the problem. Perhaps Jacob's list is the list of people who are somehow immune to the disease? Is this why Aaron could stay with the Others but Claire couldn't? Is this how Charlie dies?


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I put it on the same level as Jack and Claire's episodes since the break, the big difference being that I like Jack and Claire while I'm not really a fan of Kate, she's one of my least favorite major characters and has been for a while... Lilly's kind of cheesy acting and the repetitive nature of her flashbacks has a lot to do with that, to be honest. I haven't really loved a episode of hers since Tabula Rasa.

So I think it was still better than the first section of this season, but it's hardly one I'll be re-watching in the future.

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The official ABC snippets:

3.16: One of Us (Juliet)
Jack's joyous reunion with his fellow survivors is cut short when they realize that accompanying him is one of "The Others." Guest starring are Robin Weigert as Rachel, William Mapother as Ethan Rom, Brett Cullen as Goodwin, Andrew Divoff as Mikhail, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Joah Buley as other dude and Tyrone Howard as airport guard.

3.17: Catch-22 (Desmond)
Desmond coaxes Charlie, Hurley and Jin on a trek across the jungle after experiencing one of his future-prophesizing “flashes” -- but is he purposely placing Charlie’s life in harm’s way? Meanwhile, Kate turns to an unwitting Sawyer after seeing Jack alone with Juliet. Guest starring are Sonia Walger as Penny Widmore, Jack Maxwell as Derek, Joanna Bool as Ruth, Andrew Connolly as Brother Campbell, Andrew Trask as older monk and Marsha Thomason as parachutist.

3.18: D.O.C. (Sun and Jin)
After discovering that all of "The Others'" pregnant women died before giving birth on the island, an extremely reticent Sun allows Juliet to examine her -- and uncovers the identity of the unborn child's father. Meanwhile, Desmond allows an unlikely nemesis to help save the life of a new, mysterious island inhabitant. Guest starring are Byron Chung as Mr. Paik, Andrew Divoff as Mikhail, Marsha Thomason as Naomi, John Shin as Mr. Kwon, Alexis Rhee as older woman, Esmond Chung as Paik's associate and Jean Chung as Paik's secretary.


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andaroo.temp wrote:
The official ABC snippets:

3.17: Catch-22 (Desmond)
Desmond coaxes Charlie, Hurley and Jin on a trek across the jungle after experiencing one of his future-prophesizing “flashes” -- but is he purposely placing Charlie’s life in harm’s way? Meanwhile, Kate turns to an unwitting Sawyer after seeing Jack alone with Juliet. Guest starring are Sonia Walger as Penny Widmore, Jack Maxwell as Derek, Joanna Bool as Ruth, Andrew Connolly as Brother Campbell, Andrew Trask as older monk and Marsha Thomason as parachutist.



I don't follow as closly as alot of people here but I have a question about this; why is there speculation about Desmond trying to kill Charlie as didn't Desmond spend a whole episode keeping Charlie alive or did Desmond finally realize that he overall can't save Charlie so there is no point in trying anymore.


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