OMG. OMG. OMG.

I cannot believe they did that. I was seriously crying. I can't believe it.

But I so loved this episode. If Lamb had to go, at least he'll be remembered with a great episode. But, OMG. I need to go email Michael and offer my condolences. If anyone else wants to, he will definitely appreciate it (this guy loves his fans) and he reads them all, and replies to a lot. michael@michaelmuhney.com

I pretty much did not like Lamb, but I was really upset that they killed him off.

I am also upset that Keith is sheriff again. I don't know, I just don't like that he went and took over the position. I guess I prefer him as just being a private investigator and not having to do things on the right side of the law and all of that.

Kristen Bell is just about the cutest thing ever. The whole prison bit with the push ups, fake tattoo, and braided-like hair she had going on... it was too funny. And the whole, "Who wants to get out of jail?" "I DO, I DO!"

This episode was a great episode. Probably my favorite this season.

Also, while I obviously would prefer Logan and Veronica to be together, I kind of like the idea of him and Parker.

A few notes about everything Veronica-related:

-Loved this week's episode again. Especially Veronica's little "prison" thing at the start. And I like that they killed off someone significant and popular, but not someone who was necessarily vital to the show's future.

-The Saturn Awards announced their nominations. I know these awards mean next to nothing, but it is interesting to note that Veronica Mars was nominated for Best Drama, and Kristen Bell was nominated for Best Actress in a Drama. Considering the awards are mainly action/sci-fi oriented, it's nice to see Veronica Mars get recognized, in any way, shape, or form!

-I know Kristin Veitch is far from a reliable source for the facts, but I thought this was interesting. She posted it on Tuesday, before that night's episode. Take a look:



Now, I know jujubee has stopped hoping for another season, and is simply enjoying the last episodes of Season 3. But I, for one, have (foolishly, perhaps) a big amount of hope in me that this is not the end of Veronica Mars. It probably depends a lot on what else is returning (or what isn't returning, to be precise), but I still have hope.

Plus, I think Dawn Ostroff and the CW in general would at least be courteous enough to allow Rob Thomas and Co. to write a proper series finale for a show she likely enjoys herself. That's not to say that I think a 4th season will DEFINITELY happen. But, if this says anything (and if you believe what Kristin says), then the very least you can take from this is that Veronica Mars isn't a sitting duck on CW's schedule.

That is the one thing that's keeping me hopeful. From what I understand, Rob has the option of filming two endings for the last episode, since it will air after the upfronts and they will know if it's coming back or not, but he decided not to. Just because I can't believe that he would leave us with no real end, I have to believe that means he knows something.

A lot is riding on those five stand-alones. Most of the episodes are stand-alones anyway. We just won't have these bits and pieces of an ongoing mystery in every episode now. I think they could end up being incredible. And I think if they're promoted right, they can bring in good numbers. I'm not saying they should come out and say "Watch episodes of Veronica Mars without a major knowledge of past events!", but they should come off as "easy-to-watch" for newbies without losing the quality we've come to know and love.

Heh. You used "promote" and "Veronica Mars" in the same sentence.

First off, good episode. Definitely the worst of the mystery wrap-ups, but still a solid episode. Even though it seemed a bit obvious that Tim was the killer by the start of the episode (and maybe sooner for others), I thought it was good how it unfolded.

Second, here's a link to the promo for the next episode (VM returns May 1st): May 1st Promo

Obviously, one MAJOR thing stands out: the number of episodes left is six, not five. Either CW f'd up the number (possible, but not very likely) or the CW gave VM the same number of episodes as One Tree Hill for the season, which is 21. For some strange reason, 21 episodes sounds A TON better than 20 episodes.

And finally, Ausiello continued the "Mars Not Out Yet" rumors in his latest Q&A. Here's his quote:



If he had said 50/50, I would have understood. But 60/40 in their favor indicates that Mars is in CW's good graces in some way, although it's still far from guaranteed for a 4th season.

And, although the idea of a season finale with a possible cliffhanger worries me, it sounds good that Veronica Mars is far from dead. As I've said on NUMEROUS occasions, the future relies on the performance of the Pussycat Dolls reality show, the renewal possibilities for the aging CW favs (7th Heaven, Gilmore Girls, Smallville), and the fact that, if you count the 7pm hour on Sundays, the CW has two entire hours unfilled from now until the end of the season.

Was it just me or did that feel like it could have worked as a very nice series finale? That last scene with Veronica and Keith would leave me 100% satisfied at the end of the series.

Mr. X, you say that the fate of the show depends on how Pussycats does. But I don't understand this. (A lot of people have said it, but I still don't understand it.) Unless the Pussycat Dolls plan on adding/replacing a member every season, this isn't a show that can be multi-seasons. Obviously, it would make VM look worse, but still.

As for the aging show, Smallville will be back. Gilmore Girls will not. 7th Heaven, I would bet large quantities on it not coming back. Even if they hype another series finale, it would top out at less than 5mil, and not make them suddenly think that it would be a great idea to bring it back.

Now, CW has the following pilots:

Comedies: (I would bet that they order all of these and cancel everything but Chris)
Aliens In America
Dash4Cash
Hell on Earth
M.I.L.F and Cookies

They are all single camera, so score! My mission to get rid of laugh tracks is working! If they order all of these, and cancel all the current shows apart from Chris, they have Monday nights for comedy, still, and an extra one on the back burner.

Dramas:
Ghosts
Gossip Girl
Gravity
Paige Armstrong
Reaper
Steps
Untitled show about a witch
Untitled show about teenage girls with superpowers
Wild at Heart
World According to Barnes (male version of VM, which cast the guy who played Mercer as one of the leads)

Now, the CW has stated that they are going to really aggressively go after the 18-34 demo, and really don't care about the teen demo even slightly. To me, that means they definitely won't go with the teenage superpowers one, and probably not Gossip Girls, either.

Gravity and Ghosts are both cop shows. Gravity is supposed to be like Grey's but set in a police station. (5 rookie cops that all end up sleeping with their superiors?) But they cast Matt Czuchry in it, so I'm really hoping it gets picked up. Ghosts is about an FBI surveillance team. Probably procedural.

Wild at Heart and Steps are both family dramas. With Reba gone and 7th Heaven out the door, I wonder if CW is even going to bother with the family dramas.

Reaper's pilot is going to be directed by Kevin Smith, so it could end up being really cool. But the show itself sounds like Supernatural redux. It's about a guy who has to chase demon souls and send them back to hell.

The witch uses her powers to help people solve their problems. It sounds like a bunch of other shows that didn't work, so I'm doubtful it gets picked up.

Paige Armstrong is about a congressional aide who decides to run against her boss.

And World According to Barnes is about a male duo at Princeton who use their brains to solve crimes.

My prediction on what gets picked up among dramas:
Ghosts
Gravity
Reaper
Paige Armstrong
World According to Barnes

And this is what I can see the schedule looking like:
Sundays:
7: Gravity
8: Veronica Mars
9: World According to Barnes

Mondays:
Comedies

Tuesdays:
8: Supernatural
9: Reaper

Wednesdays:
8: Top Model
9: Paige Armstrong

Thursdays:
8: Smallville
9: Ghosts

Fridays:
8: Smackdown

Well, The Pussycat Dolls could end up doing moderately well (or better than Veronica Mars) in the timeslot, which may tell the CW that they could do better without Mars. But, I don't think Gilmore Girls and Pussycat Dolls will be compatible (or, at least a lot less compatible than Gilmore and Veronica). I doubt it will catch on like ANTM or Beauty and the Geek.

But, like you said, it'll probably be a one-season deal for the show anyway, so it won't have a huge influence on Veronica's future.

In other news, the ratings look a whole lot better this week (at least compared to Gilmore Girls). And with 5th Grader doing the same as House (a sad, sad fact), you can't say it had less competition from FOX.

http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/blog/index.jsp?uuid=6bcc5753-bc66-41f4-8283-131667132231

According to this Veronica Mars has been canceled. Although this is not official.

That website was just updated saying that it hasn't been confirmed and creator Rob Thomas has not heard any talk of cancellation thus far.

We need to rally the troops and keep this show on the air I swear, The OC and Veronica Mars can't both be gone in the same year.

Here's the important part of the update to Kristin's post:



Anyone else kinda intrigued by Veronica being an FBI agent? If the show had to come back to something different, I think I could get into that very well.

I would actually be fine without certain people coming back to the show.

What does everyone else think of that idea? I don't think it's a confirmed thing or anything, though, obviously.

I'm not sure. It sounds almost like they want to take one of their various pilots and use it for VM. The thing is, I really have thought that what they could really do to bring the quality back to what I think is the best is to come back with just characters from the first season. I love this show for all the characters, not just Veronica. I mean, my biggest complaint this season has been the misuse of most of the characters. The near total lack of Wallace, Mac, Weevil and Lamb really didn't make me happy. So I can't imagine a new season with a whole bunch of new characters. I wouldn't mind cutting back on the Logan, as much as I love him, but to get rid of him completely? Which would mean no Dick, and he gets all the best lines.

I don't like their FBI idea much. In fact, I wouldn't watch next season if that's what it came back as. I like Veronica Mars not just for Veronica but, as Cotton said, for all the characters. The show wouldn't be Veronica Mars without Logan, Weevil, Wallace, Keith, Mac. Why bother bringing it back when it's pretty much going to be a brand new show? If that's how it's going to be, I think I'd probably rather them just cancel it and let Kristen Bell go off and do another project. I don't know. I'm just not into the whole idea.

I am.

Of course I'd prefer going back to where we are now. But.

If we had to come back to another season but something different, I wouldn't mind.

What I was thinking is, why don't they just cast Bell in one of their pilots (they have several about FBI) and hire Rob Thomas as a writer. I mean, it just seems like a completely different show. I would still watch, but I'm just not sure if it would work or not.

Well, rumor has it that Enrico Colantoni, Jason Dohring and Tina Marjorino will not be back for a fourth season. I'm sorry, but Keith is gone? I can understand getting rid of every character other than Keith. And I hate to say it, but without even Keith keeping the show where it started, this will not be the same show at all, and I will not be watching. Makes me sad, but at least we had three seasons. More than can be expected for an underdog like this.

Does that mean they're looking into joining new shows, or is Veronica Mars moving forward with this new format?

If it does return like this, I'll still give it a shot. Of course, losing three of the best characters on any TV show will definitely hurt. But, I'm not going to forget about it either.

Those are just the cast members that sources know about being let go. From the sounds of it, the only character returning will be Veronica. It really just won't be the same show at all. The show is about the town as much as it is about Veronica. I think I'd rather just mourn the end now and move on.

I hope they all end up getting more work soon. From what I understand, Dohring has been passing up on things since the show started. So hopefully, he'll at least have some movies, or this mini series he was talking about in an interview recently.

Here's what I think about the whole FBI thing: it's obviously becoming an entirely new show, just with Veronica spun off into her own new show with the same title. I can really live with that, especially if the choice is Veronica or no Veronica. Right now, I have to accept the fact that I probably won't see Keith, Mac or Logan anymore after May.

But at the same time, this new idea intrigues me. The idea intrigues me on its own. But with Kristen Bell in the lead role playing Veronica Mars four years into the future? I don't know... the idea is still very interesting to me, and I'm kinda looking forward to it, even at the expense of some awesome characters.

It's no longer a choice between Keith, Mac and Logan or NO Keith, Mac or Logan. It's new Veronica Mars or no Veronica Mars. If that's the way it's gotta be, I'll take new Veronica.

Maybe I'm supporting a slap in the face to the show's three year history. But I'm not going to lie and say the idea sucks.

I just don't like the character of Veronica Mars enough to support a move to an entirely new show, with a different premise and new supporting characters, and I don't see Veronica being the FBI type, she doesn't go by the book that often.

Guess I'm the only one. That's cool. I guess we're all entitled, right?

I just feel like a backstabber now. Like I don't care enough about the show to have it end with its dignity or something.

Nah, you make sense. My friend is telling me that I should just look at it as a new show and if I like the first episode, good, if not, I've already let the show go. I think that's how I'm going to see it. My VM is over as of this season. We'll see if I like this new show that has the same name.

That's how I'm lookin' at it. On its own, I definitely could see it working.