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Joker's Thug #3
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It's more of a internet driven film, the ratio should be a bit higher then 100. The crowd reports arent very encouraging either.
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DP07
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Zingaling wrote: Hm, ratio of 90? I don't see why it would. Comedy. R-rated comedy with a fanbase. Fanbase? heh I don't think the rating makes that much of a difference. It could be 70-80 with PG-13. So why did Waiting have well over 200? Harold and Kumar over 330? Grandma's Boy over 500? You can blame it on low theatre counts, but such a great change of pattern ain't gonna happen, I'd guess. Theater Counts have a big effect on ratios.
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Dr. Lecter
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DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: WC has one of the lowest ratios in recent years for 100m+ grossers BTW. WC's hugely wide appeal is hardly comparable. But that's not the point. It proves the R rating won't increase the ratio that much. On certain films it does and Beerfest is certainly much more Harold & Kumar than Wedding Crashers. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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DP07
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: WC has one of the lowest ratios in recent years for 100m+ grossers BTW. WC's hugely wide appeal is hardly comparable. But that's not the point. It proves the R rating won't increase the ratio that much. On certain films it does and Beerfest is certainly much more Harold & Kumar than Wedding Crashers. Why on certain films?
I think that there just isn't much of a sample size so you end up with a few bombs that are misleading.
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Dr. Lecter
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DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: WC has one of the lowest ratios in recent years for 100m+ grossers BTW. WC's hugely wide appeal is hardly comparable. But that's not the point. It proves the R rating won't increase the ratio that much. On certain films it does and Beerfest is certainly much more Harold & Kumar than Wedding Crashers. Why on certain films? I think that there just isn't much of a sample size so you end up with a few bombs that are misleading. Or a few successes that are misleading. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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El Maskado
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Lecter is right. Theres no way Beerfest will get just a 90 ratio. The following for Broken Lizard is almost as strong as Kevin Smith
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DP07
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: WC has one of the lowest ratios in recent years for 100m+ grossers BTW. WC's hugely wide appeal is hardly comparable. But that's not the point. It proves the R rating won't increase the ratio that much. On certain films it does and Beerfest is certainly much more Harold & Kumar than Wedding Crashers. Why on certain films? I think that there just isn't much of a sample size so you end up with a few bombs that are misleading. Or a few successes that are misleading. I can think of a reason that the bombs would be misleading. Theater counts. Why WC, 4YOV and AW? PG-13 comedies similar to H&K, Waiting and Grandma's Boy have high ratios.
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DP07
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El_Masked_fuerte_grande wrote: Lecter is right. Theres no way Beerfest will get just a 90 ratio. The following for Broken Lizard is almost as strong as Kevin Smith Are you joking?
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DP07
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Jay and Silent Bob: 30m
Club Dread: 5m
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El Maskado
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DP07 wrote: El_Masked_fuerte_grande wrote: Lecter is right. Theres no way Beerfest will get just a 90 ratio. The following for Broken Lizard is almost as strong as Kevin Smith Are you joking? You will see tommorrow. Im not saying it will be as high as Clerks 2 since thats a sequel but definately higher than Jersey Girl. Stop projecting your biasness into the ratio 
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DP07
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El_Masked_fuerte_grande wrote: DP07 wrote: El_Masked_fuerte_grande wrote: Lecter is right. Theres no way Beerfest will get just a 90 ratio. The following for Broken Lizard is almost as strong as Kevin Smith Are you joking? You will see tommorrow. Im not saying it will be as high as Clerks 2 since thats a sequel but definately higher than Jersey Girl. Stop projecting your biasness into the ratio Heh
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El Maskado
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DP07 wrote: Jay and Silent Bob: 30m
Club Dread: 5m I dont mean as in BO numbers but the ratio based on the net to their receipts
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Dr. Lecter
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DP07 wrote: Jay and Silent Bob: 30m
Club Dread: 5m Take their smallest and his biggest?
What about Clerks II - ~ $24 million and Super Troopers - $18 million?
I don't think the followings are equally big, but Roid isn't far off. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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DP07
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Plus, the written to total review ratio is near 10 for Beerfest. Clerks II was at the low end: 3-4, I don't remember exactly. As if there should have been any doubt the comparision is awful.
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DP07
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Jay and Silent Bob: 30m
Club Dread: 5m Take their smallest and his biggest? What about Clerks II - ~ $24 million and Super Troopers - $18 million? I don't think the followings are equally big, but Roid isn't far off. Super Troopers made it's money from the marketing campaign. Clerks II was all fanbase. Anyway the written reviews prove it wrong. There's no real fanbase.
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Squee
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Zingaling wrote: Hm, ratio of 90? I don't see why it would. Comedy. R-rated comedy with a fanbase. Shack doesn't count as a fanbase, sorry. 
(keep in mind Im not agreeing with DP07, I just wanted to take a jab at Broken Lizard.) _________________Setting most people on fire is wrong.Proud Founder of the "Community of Squee." 
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xiayun
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WC and 40YOV are not gross-out comedies. They attract a lot more adults. Beerfest is much closer to films such as Waiting and Road Trip.
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Dr. Lecter
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DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Jay and Silent Bob: 30m
Club Dread: 5m Take their smallest and his biggest? What about Clerks II - ~ $24 million and Super Troopers - $18 million? I don't think the followings are equally big, but Roid isn't far off. Super Troopers made it's money from the marketing campaign. Clerks II was all fanbase. Anyway the written reviews prove it wrong. There's no real fanbase. Or they just prove that Yahoo is clogged. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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xiayun
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Final numbers (2-hour update):
Beerfest 281, +34, B
How to Eat Fried Worms 176, +3, C-
Idlewild 432, +38, B
Invincible 415, +46, B+
Little Miss Sunshine 3053, 253 Friday, +29, B+ _________________Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
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DP07
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But do we know what Road Trip would have had as a ratio? I suspect it wouldn't have been that high actually. Anyway, American Wedding was low.
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Why does everyone think this looks poor for Beerfest? I was expecting a ratio near 90.
Right now I'm thinking:
Invincible: 4.5m
Beerfest: 3.5m
Idlewild: 2.6m
HTEFW: 1.6m My final guesses:
Invincible: 4.2m
Beerfest: 3.3m
Idlewild: 2.5m
HTEFW: 1.4m
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xiayun
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Final projections:
Invincible - $4.5-5.0m
Idlewild - $2.0-2.2m
Beerfest - $1.6-1.9m
How to Eat Fried Worms - $0.9-1.1m (surest DOA this week, terrible grade and terrible last 4 hours)
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xiayun wrote: Final projections:
Invincible - $4.5-5.0m
Idlewild - $2.0-2.2m
Beerfest - $1.6-1.9m
How to Eat Fried Worms - $0.9-1.1m (surest DOA this week, terrible grade and terrible last 4 hours) These all look about right to me. There's clearly some conflicting thoughts on Beerfest, but it's obvious that this has tanked from the crowd reports. Worms also looks pretty sad.
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Rolling Thunder
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All in all, a very good weekend for Yahoo! Nice job with the projections given the problems the site had.
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DP07
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Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: DP07 wrote: Jay and Silent Bob: 30m
Club Dread: 5m Take their smallest and his biggest? What about Clerks II - ~ $24 million and Super Troopers - $18 million? I don't think the followings are equally big, but Roid isn't far off. Super Troopers made it's money from the marketing campaign. Clerks II was all fanbase. Anyway the written reviews prove it wrong. There's no real fanbase. Or they just prove that Yahoo is clogged. Actually, it would have been the other way around if it were clogged. Lower written to total ratios would result.
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