Yea, we missed out on some great films that Arnie could have made.

Instead of True Lies 2, they molded it to Mr. and Mrs. Smith
Arnie was suppose to be in Alien Vs. Predator when it was more of a new Predator film for Arnie
King Conan
I Am Legend (Will smith is now attached)
Crusade
Westorld
T4

For all the crap that people say Arnold is a horrible actor. He really was never that bad. He was always able to play a different character in all of his films, and delivered some of the best action and comedy of the last 20 years.

Films that I think are as good as any other actors resume

Terminator Series, True Lies, Predator, Total Recall

Well made films:
Conan the Barbarian, The Running Man, Eraser, Kindergarten Cop, Last Action Hero (Screw me, its a spoof)

Classics in every sense:
Commando, Twins, The 6th Day, Raw Deal

Average- Collateral Damage, End of Days, Jingle all the way.

The only true times Arnold really fell off in quality was the 2nd Conan movie, though that wasnt his fault, Red Sonja (Same situation) Batman and Robin (Again, can we blame him) and Junior (We can blame him, it was just too weird an idea.)

Arnold will stay in my top 10 greatest entertainers forever.)

Hmm, The 6th Day is a classic in every sense? Hmm

I forgot Predator for one of my favorite Arnie films. It's great. Though I never really got the great appeal of Conan.

Not to sound rude, but what the fuck are you talking about? Arnie's been involved in good movies (True Lies), bad movies and goofy, enjoyable misfires (Last Action Hero), but each of those four is pretty much unwatchable. No, make that completely unwatchable. Classic? Huh?

For me, I like True Lies, Last Action Hero, Conan The Barbarian and Total Recall. I liked Running Man too, but I haven't seen it in years. Terminator 2 traumatized my 6 year-old brain and has given me recurring T-1000 nightmares for years, so excuse me if I'm not a huge fan of that one.

Man, I hope Elliott Gould isn't too glib with those subordinates. Could spell trouble for Phil Marlowe.

Well, Commando is certainly a classic. Haven't seen it in some time, but it is a classic in the same sense that Snakes on a Plane is one. A huge camp classic.

But Snakes on a Plane is no classic. Not even of camp. It's a brief internet fad that ended long before the movie opened. In reality, it's the movie equivalent of "All Your Base Are Belong To Us".

You will be proven wrong. Incase you didn't notice, pretty much every single person who saw it, loved it. For them, it will remain a classic. And Commando is a camp classic, like it or not

Arnuld is a good actor, he even faked an american accent in Hercules Goes to New York

One enjoyable night at the movies does not a camp classic make.

Anyway, Arnie's true camp classic is Batman & Robin, a movie I have seen way more times than can be considered healty.

"You're not sending me to the cooler!" I can't even think of that line without laughing hysterically. I'm doing it right now.

No..no...Batman & Robin is a sad movie, not a funny one. It is just sad.

Arthur, you're obviously in the waning hours of a three day bender, thus I will excuse your apprasial of Batman & Robin as 'sad.' Alcohol can do crazy things to people.

Courtesy of IMDB, some brilliant dialogue written by Academy Award Winner Akiva Goldsman (Is there anything this guy can't do?):

Cop: Please show some mercy!
Freeze: I'm afraid my condition has left me cold to your pleas of mercy.

Batgirl: Chicks like you give women a bad name.

Mr. Freeze: [referring to Batman and Robin] Their bones will turn to ice! Their blood will freeze in my hands!

Mr. Freeze: If revenge is a dish best served cold, then put on your Sunday finest. It's time to feast!

Mr. Freeze: Allow me to break the ice. My name is Freeze. Learn it well. For it's the chilling sound of your doom.
Batgirl: [in the Batcave; Alfred's image is on a computer screen] Uncle Alfred, it's me, Barbara!
Alfred: I expected you might find your way down here. I programmed my brain al-algorithms into the Batcomputer to create a virtual simu-simulation.
Batgirl: I want to help Batman and Robin.
Alfred: I anticipated you would, and took the liberty to create something in your size.
Batgirl: Suit me up, Uncle Alfred!

Batman: Who invited you?
Robin: I was just hanging around.
Batman: I thought you were gonna stay in the museum. Round up some thugs.
Robin: How 'bout, "Nice to see ya? Glad you're here to save my life."

Robin: I can't believe we were fighting over a bad guy.
Batman: Bad? Yes. Guy? No.
Robin: Yeah, whatever. Well, I'm totally over it.
Batman: Yeah, me too. Nice stems though.
Robin: Great buds too.
Batman: Yeah, those were nice.


Commando (or even SoaP, for that matter) can only wish it has the camp value of B&R. Time for a reapprasial, dear Alfred? Watch it in the right frame of mind, and you've got a movie up there with the incredible, unintentional charms of the Burton/Taylor team up The Sandpiper (still the best bad movie I've ever seen).

C'mon, when something this bad appears in a generic action flick it's fine and funny, but it is a Batman movie, so that makes it sad and depressing.

Commando goodies:

"Matrix: Remember, Sully, when I promised to kill you last?
Sully: That's right, Matrix. You did.
Matrix: I lied. "

"Matrix: Let off some steam, Bennett. "

"Matrix: [after killing a man in the plane] Don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired. "

"Cindy: What happened to Sully?
Matrix: I let him go. "

"Matrix: Come on, you piece of shit. Fly or die.
[Plane starts up]
Matrix: Works every time. "

"Cindy: You don't even have a car.
[Matrix pushes Sully's overturned car back upright]
Matrix: Now I do. "


That combined with Arnie just shooting about 100 guys at the end of the film without catching a bullit himself.

Commando is 80s macho taken to the extreme. Easily one of the best movies you could watch with a few friends and plenty of Alcohol.

No, that makes it so much better! All that money, unlimited resources...pissed away for this. And the starpower in play...a mega-failure, one that tarnishes reputations, that's the one to look for. I couldn't care less if a generic action movie pulls out dumb shit...where's the fun in that? Jason Statham falling flat on his face doesn't have the allure of a group of well-respected, well-paid actors doing the same.

Batman Forever was kinda sad and depressing. Batman and Robin takes the BF approach to its logical extreme and emerges with celluloid gold, a movie that will be remembered long after Batman Forever and a thousand generic action movies are forgotten.

What Gullimont said above.

None of that differentiates Commando from a thousand dumb-ass action flicks. Lame one-liners with self-knowing wink? CHECK. Pun in regards to fresh corpse? CHECK. Final shootout in which hero dodges literally thousands of bullets while offing entire squadrons and/or third world countries? CHECK.

Batman & Robin is special. We'll never see anything like that again.

I can't believe I'm arguing over the comparative merits of Batman & Robin v. Commando. Good lord. What's next? Independence Day v. Congo? Actually, I'd fight for Congo to the death.

The Terminator


Ah, the start of the glorious Terminator franchise, the movie that gave James Cameron his breakthrough (after the abysmal Piranha II: The Spawning). and of course one of the greatest sci-fi action films to ever see the face of the planet. There is not much from me to say about it what is not already known. The only thing that somewhat diminishes The Terminator's impact is the fact that its follow-up is just so much superior.

The action is good, but it just pales in comparison to the sequel. Arnie makes a pretty good villain and seriously, that endoskeleton design of the T-800 is just great. I think I never really gave thought to that before...but I just noticed for the first time, but you don't see the endoskeleton in any of the film's "flashbacks" to the war and the first time you see it is at the very end of the film. The prolonged finale is just great.

Where had Michael Biehn disappear to these days?


Grade: A-

Love that. Commando is just endlessly enjoyable.

Its sometimes hard to believe that Terminator made less money theatrically then Red Dawn.

Terminator is great. It and T2 are like the first two Alien movies, in that the first is more a horror film and the second is action-packed. I find the first Terminator works a lot better as a sci-fi/horror than a sci-fi/action.