The 'Big Brother: All-Stars' Thread
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Mister Ecks
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Dumb decision aside, James has no right to complain about Janelle's decision. When he had the opportunity to put up Chilltown, he went for Will and Chicken George. His target was never going to be Will, it was always George. I don't care how right James is about Janelle's dumb fucking decision to put up Diane and not Will. As far as I'm concerned, James is a bigger moron and a hypocrite.
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm |
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greasedlightning
Indiana Jones IV
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Mr. X wrote: Dumb decision aside, James has no right to complain about Janelle's decision. When he had the opportunity to put up Chilltown, he went for Will and Chicken George. His target was never going to be Will, it was always George. I don't care how right James is about Janelle's dumb fucking decision to put up Diane and not Will. As far as I'm concerned, James is a bigger moron and a hypocrite.
I think you're missing why James is upset though. He's not mad just because she put up Diane and not Will. James's target WAS Chicken George, but when George won the veto, he even said it was a blessing in disguise for him to be off the block. James wanted BOOGIE put up in his place and he wanted Boogie voted out. He did not want to put Jase up at all. He felt it was backdooring and a shitty thing to do and he wanted no part in it. However, JANELLE was the primary one shoving it down James' throat that he HAS to put up Jase nad get Jase out because Jase was going after her. Jase was NOT going after James, and if he wanted to be selfish -- like Janelle was this week -- he could have decided to put up Boogie and vote Boogie out. But Janelle was adamant about having Jase gone so James asked them ALL that if one of them won HoH would they PROMISE to put up Chilltown together on the block and get them out. They all agreed. Janelle is the only one that is the liar. I don't see how James is the lair because he did want Chilltown out, not Jase, but he pu Jase up and let them vote him out because it was beneficial to Janelle.
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:59 pm |
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MovieGeek
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greasedlightning wrote: Mr. X wrote: Dumb decision aside, James has no right to complain about Janelle's decision. When he had the opportunity to put up Chilltown, he went for Will and Chicken George. His target was never going to be Will, it was always George. I don't care how right James is about Janelle's dumb fucking decision to put up Diane and not Will. As far as I'm concerned, James is a bigger moron and a hypocrite. I think you're missing why James is upset though. He's not mad just because she put up Diane and not Will. James's target WAS Chicken George, but when George won the veto, he even said it was a blessing in disguise for him to be off the block. James wanted BOOGIE put up in his place and he wanted Boogie voted out. He did not want to put Jase up at all. He felt it was backdooring and a shitty thing to do and he wanted no part in it. However, JANELLE was the primary one shoving it down James' throat that he HAS to put up Jase nad get Jase out because Jase was going after her. Jase was NOT going after James, and if he wanted to be selfish -- like Janelle was this week -- he could have decided to put up Boogie and vote Boogie out. But Janelle was adamant about having Jase gone so James asked them ALL that if one of them won HoH would they PROMISE to put up Chilltown together on the block and get them out. They all agreed. Janelle is the only one that is the liar. I don't see how James is the lair because he did want Chilltown out, not Jase, but he pu Jase up and let them vote him out because it was beneficial to Janelle.
Exactlty! Janelle is a liar.
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:03 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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James could have put up Boogie last week. It's his fault that a person from Chilltown isn't gone, because James is the one that put up Jase! He didn't have to listen to Janelle, HE was HOH, not Janelle. In fact, James is the kind of person that normally screens that crap out and does what HE wants. James screwed up himself, he's out of the alliance because he ALWAYS wanted out of the alliance. It was inevitable. I mean, just look at BB6: he hated them. James just wanted to ride with BB6 until he knew it was no longer safe, and now he jumps ship. I'm fine with James only thinking about himself to win the game (that's what your supposed to do and why I love James) but I think his complaining is pretty silly, obnoxious, and will only cause certain people to target him. I also find it funny how he wanted Chilltown gone, but now he's joining them. lol.
And that's my opinion. Nobody needs to share it. Everybody knows I love James anyways. I love Janelle too, but I can still criticize both when I think they're stupid.
Will in my opinion has played a master game. He even had me doubting him, and now he's just messed up the house totally, and he's riding them all. I love it. Will for President. Danielle is doing great too riding low, but she's going to ruin it next week if she wins HOH and then gets all passionate about getting Janelle out and stirs things up. The target will re-appear on her back (people will remember "oh yeah, she's a strong player and strong minded - I forgot! Let's get her out.")
PEACE, Mike.
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:04 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Will is definitely doing an awesome job. I do think at some point, they're going to all just look at him and realize he needs to go (once the numbers dwindle), but he could make final four.
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:09 pm |
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greasedlightning
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James didn't have to put Jase up, but he did it because he was trying to show that he's faithful to the S6 and put someone up who was not going after him to please his group. He didn't do what he wanted because he wanted to try and do whatever he could for the group. He didn't mess up, he was being a good alliance member. Janelle screwed it all up. Even now it doesn't matter because James has jumped ship, sided with Boogie, Will, Danielle, and the other floaters, and he is once again the last target of S6. It all worked out in his favor anyway.
Tomorrow is going to be a live vote. I think that this is because the "twist" is that jury starts now, with the first jury member being Diane. That would mean nine people in the jury. It's supported by the fact that Ali, after she Jase got evicted, she went on her blog and wrote that Jase was the last person to be evicted before the jury. Dana also posted on the Revenge of the Houseguests blog something about jury maybe starting now. And it would make sense because that would be nine jury members and BB6 can't control the jury votes. Also, in S5 and S6, live voting didn't start until sequester, so it must mean something that live voting is starting now.
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:19 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Whether James truly wanted to be faithful or not, he screwed it up himself (if he so badly wanted Chilltown out, why trust an alliance he said he didn't even trust 100% to do it next week, when he had the power last week?). James screwed it up for himself if he so badly wanted Chilltown out. He is the one complaining, so if he missed the opportunity, he screwed it up for himself. And now he's joined them, so he can't be too upset if he finds them useful to continue in the game.
And like I implied, he's in a great position now. I'm happy for him. His complaining is the downside that will hurt him. It only makes Kaysar/Howie/Janelle want to target him if they somehow win HOH again.
And if the jury starts early, sweet. The more jury members included the better, in my opinion.
PEACE, Mike.
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:24 pm |
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O
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I love that expanded jury idea. It would keep Janelle around even until the end. Also, it would give Howie/Janelle/Kaysar 3/9 of the jury votes, so James will immediately resort back to sucking up as soon as he hears the announcement...
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Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:11 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I do think that if jury starts tonight, it's going to really open up a new game for certain people. People you try to screw now are going to be deciding whether you get a million dollars in the end.
Is it confirmed that endurance is tonight, or just speculation? I mean CONFIRMED, not "I'm sure".
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:13 pm |
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Cotton
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Did Julie say they were going to reveal the Coup D'Etat on Sunday or Tuesday?
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:29 pm |
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greasedlightning
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Cotton wrote: Did Julie say they were going to reveal the Coup D'Etat on Sunday or Tuesday?
Thursday
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Thu Aug 03, 2006 11:40 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
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man! it would of been awesome if Diane would of stayed.
Now im supporting everyone except the season 6 alliance. Dont with them!
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Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:14 am |
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MikeQ.
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A few comments:
Apparently Marcellus has not given George the slop pass, despite the entire house agreeing during the competition to give it to him. I don't blame Marcellus for keeping it for himself (he won it), but it just goes to show his continuing hypocrital/lying/etc attitude. This and his sweet talk with Janelle when she's around, and then badmouthing her behind her back. What a moron. He drops down on my favourites list to the bottom. Even Boogie is more likeable recently (he impressed me with his staying to his word - that really surprised me coming from him).
I think Danielle might put up Janelle as an original nomination (rather than a backdooring like some think). For one, Danielle kept saying how she was REALLY looking forward to making a nice big nomination speech crushing Janelle. Backdooring her doesn't give her as much satisfaction.
And secondly, and most importantly, the veto competition people are randomly chosen (the extra 3 people to compete with the two nominees and HOH). Therefore, it is not guaranteed that they can truly backdoor Janelle. She may very well be able to compete without even being a nominee, and she can save herself by winning it and also save a fellow BB6 member (whom Danielle would inevitably put up).
But I'm not sure.
PEACE, Mike.
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Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:28 am |
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Cotton
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greasedlightning wrote: Cotton wrote: Did Julie say they were going to reveal the Coup D'Etat on Sunday or Tuesday? Thursday
Hmmm...interesting. So it might not even come into play until the next HOH takes power. I wonder if the jury will be involved.
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Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:35 am |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
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WOAH!!! i did not know this!
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Sun Aug 06, 2006 3:10 am |
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Cotton
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^ Yeah, they revealed it last season, I believe.
ANyway, I was wondering if anyone (Mr. X, MikeQ...? etc) could post the current results of the "Love'em or Leave'em" poll. I don't fave Flash, therefore I can't visit the CBS Big Brother site. 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:57 pm |
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O
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Grand prize:
Danielle 5
Diane 1.2
Erika 2.8
George 4.6
Howie 4.2
James 14.5
Janelle 28.6
Kaysar 17.7
Marcellas 2.1
Mike 2
Will 17.3
Love em or hate em:
Alison 0.3
Danielle 1.9
Diane 1
Erika 1.2
George 3.5
Howie 4.1
James 5.3
Janelle 21.2
Jase 1
Kaysar 47.3
Marcellas 1.7
Mike 1
Nakomis 0.3
Will 10.1
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:11 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Current Love 'Em or Leave 'Em Poll Results:
1. Kaysar: 47.3%
2. Janelle: 21.2%
3. Will: 10.1%
4. James: 5.3%
5. Howie: 4.1%
6. George: 3.5%
7. Danielle: 1.9%
8. Marcellas: 1.7%
9. Erika: 1.2%
10. Mike: 1.0%
11. Diane: 1.0% (Evicted)
12. Jase: 1.0% (Evicted)
13. Nakomis: 0.4% (Evicted)
14. Alison: 0.3% (Evicted)
Kaysar is obviously an enormous favourite in the house. The tallies are updated weekly, so in the next update, Diane should go further down (since she was evicted already) and Kaysar will probably go down as well since he is about to be evicted (not so much at first, but evicted houseguests lose votes eventually). Kaysar will still probably stay relatively high since he is so well liked. Janelle will probably go up considerably since she'll garner votes from the Kaysar/Sov alliance fans (Janelle is the closest friend to Kaysar in the house) and she'll become the new favourite still in the house. James will probably go down since the next update will be after most of his scheming behind the Sov3 alliance's back. I expect Danielle and Will to go up higher, since they've both had a great week, and votes have to be relocated somewhere. But I'm not positive, we'll see. I'll post the next update when it comes for you.
PEACE, Mike.
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:19 pm |
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Cotton
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Thanks O!
How exactly do you interpret them, though? Does Danielle's 1.9 rating mean she only has a 1.9% approval or whatever? 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:22 pm |
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Libs
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Why the bloody hell is Kaysar so high?
I do not get it at all, the man doesn't do anything! He's not even that great of a player, really. He's played three different times and will have never made it to the jury.
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:24 pm |
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O
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Cotton wrote: Thanks O!  How exactly do you interpret them, though? Does Danielle's 1.9 rating mean she only has a 1.9% approval or whatever? 
I think it adds to 100%. People are able to pick one favorite at a time:
Vote for your favorite HouseGuest.
Alison Janelle
Danielle Jase
Diane Kaysar
Erika Marcellas
George Mike
Howie Nakomis
James Will
You get one vote, and can keep voting nonstop, but those %'s are % of votes out of the total.
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:28 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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O wrote: Cotton wrote: Thanks O!  How exactly do you interpret them, though? Does Danielle's 1.9 rating mean she only has a 1.9% approval or whatever?  I think it adds to 100%. People are able to pick one favorite at a time: Vote for your favorite HouseGuest. Alison Janelle Danielle Jase Diane Kaysar Erika Marcellas George Mike Howie Nakomis James Will You get one vote, and can keep voting nonstop, but those %'s are % of votes out of the total.
I see.
Thanks for the updates everyone. 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:31 pm |
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O
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I think at the rate this is going, Marcellas may have to worry whether he'll be able to go back onto Housecalls, as he's not very popular at all. Erika is definitely a huge turnaround from her season of Big Brother. I don't know what happened, but I think not having someone good around, like Jack, is causing her to act differently than that season. I'm not happy about that though, as Erika was my fav of BB4, but now, the effect of BB7, Erika definitely will not be my fav of BB4, as I'm starting to feel that that was a huge facade, and this might be how she actually is...oh well...
Also, I thought I'd give props to CBS on their "win $10,000 question."
Why are these people (ie the friendship crying)? 
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:34 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Libs wrote: Why the bloody hell is Kaysar so high?
I do not get it at all, the man doesn't do anything! He's not even that great of a player, really. He's played three different times and will have never made it to the jury.
Yeah, he sucks at the game, but people like him for being trustworthy and appearing to have more morals than the rest of the house. Kaysar chooses to play the game this way despite it not working out so good for him to win the money. I think he's just an all around likeable guy who is generally more mature than the rest in the house (and he's only 25 - turning 26 on Thursday), so people love him.
I so hope all the houseguests feel SUPER guilty for voting Kaysar out on his birthday. I H.A.T.E Erika, Marcellas and George right now.
PEACE, Mike.
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Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:35 pm |
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MikeQ. wrote: Libs wrote: Why the bloody hell is Kaysar so high?
I do not get it at all, the man doesn't do anything! He's not even that great of a player, really. He's played three different times and will have never made it to the jury. Yeah, he sucks at the game, but people like him for being trustworthy and appearing to have more morals than the rest of the house. Kaysar chooses to play the game this way despite it not working out so good for him to win the money. I think he's just an all around likeable guy who is generally more mature than the rest in the house (and he's only 25 - turning 26 on Thursday), so people love him. I so hope all the houseguests feel SUPER guilty for voting Kaysar out on his birthday. I H.A.T.E Erika, Marcellas and George right now. PEACE, Mike.
I can understand Erika and Marcellas, but why George? He's just being misused by everyone, and I don't think anyone other than Howie really has been genuine to him. James nominated him, and yet he'll be voting out Kaysar in all likeliness. But part of that is because of Marcellas' campaigning (thinking George will go his way because he gave him a slop pass)...
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