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Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:44 am Posts: 2913 Location: Portugal
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I just have that feeling I'll love this one...  (just like I had with The Village)
(unfortunately, it comes out here in late september as usual..  )
What I find really weird is that it stands at 22% with the critics but at 78% (which is the extreme opposite) with RT users...
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makeshift
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Cotton wrote: Did anyone else think the movie's theme -- having faith, etc -- was almost a complete rehash of Signs? That scene where Giamatti is having that emotional talk while holding Story is almost a carbon copy of when Mel Gibson was talking to god while holding his son.
Be that as it may, the scene in LitW is much, much better. I broke down during it.
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
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If The Village taught me anything, it's that I shouldn't expect what I see in the trailer for an M. Night movie. And it worked well here.
With that out of the way, Lady in the Water isn't an incredible movie, nor even a great one. But, it is a good movie, a good story, and it has great actors involved in the two leads. After expecting a lot less than what the trailer showed, I was actually surprised by quite a bit, and it was a good kind of surprise.
My complaints? It is a bit slow. A bit unusual. A bit confusing. I was expecting some sort of twist, and luckily, there wasn't one. I think that, similar to The Village, a twist would have ruined the movie.
For now, I'm giving this a B. It might be a B+ or a B- after a while, so I'll stick to a B.
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Mister Ecks
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While I'm at it, I found the scene with Bob Balaban predicting his own fate with the creature to be entirely out of place. May be just me.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Mr. X wrote: While I'm at it, I found the scene with Bob Balaban predicting his own fate with the creature to be entirely out of place. May be just me.
I never meta-story I didn't like!
I dug it - to me, it was part of the whole purposefully exposed skeleton of the movie's story - in that particular scene it was especially amped out for comic relief amidst all the more melancholy aspects of the story...
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:09 pm |
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Jeff
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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bradley witherberry wrote: Mr. X wrote: While I'm at it, I found the scene with Bob Balaban predicting his own fate with the creature to be entirely out of place. May be just me. I never meta-story I didn't like! I dug it - to me, it was part of the whole purposefully exposed skeleton of the movie's story - in that particular scene it was especially amped out for comic relief amidst all the more melancholy aspects of the story...
I liked the scene as well.
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El Maskado
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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So those that hated the movie, would the movie have been better if they made it into a a miniseries where they better explain the tenants action and why they led to believe
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:08 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
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RogueONE wrote: bradley witherberry wrote: Mr. X wrote: While I'm at it, I found the scene with Bob Balaban predicting his own fate with the creature to be entirely out of place. May be just me. I never meta-story I didn't like! I dug it - to me, it was part of the whole purposefully exposed skeleton of the movie's story - in that particular scene it was especially amped out for comic relief amidst all the more melancholy aspects of the story... I liked the scene as well.
I didn't say I hated it, it just felt a little weird and out of place.
While I'm at it, Bob Balaban could play Sloane's brother on "Alias".
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:12 pm |
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baumer72
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 7087 Location: Crystal Lake
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It's as bad as they say it is. Convoluted, poorly paced, characters that are useless and a story that is so void of intellect and interest that i am truly shocked that anyone would fund this. Giamatti is such a ridiculously good actor that he actually made me interested in his character and his character only, hence the only reason this doesn't get a 1.
3/10
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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baumer72 wrote: It's as bad as they say it is. Convoluted, poorly paced, characters that are useless and a story that is so void of intellect and interest that i am truly shocked that anyone would fund this. Giamatti is such a ridiculously good actor that he actually made me interested in his character and his character only, hence the only reason this doesn't get a 1.
3/10
Jaws sucked.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:18 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
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I haven't read through this thread, I just want to take a wild guess at something because I saw that he had voted in the poll.....bradley witherberry gave this piece of shit one of his patented "in excess of 5 out of 5" raves didn't he? 
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:35 pm |
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baumer72
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ChipMunky wrote: baumer72 wrote: It's as bad as they say it is. Convoluted, poorly paced, characters that are useless and a story that is so void of intellect and interest that i am truly shocked that anyone would fund this. Giamatti is such a ridiculously good actor that he actually made me interested in his character and his character only, hence the only reason this doesn't get a 1.
3/10 Jaws sucked.
A matter of opinion of course. But LITW is just bad. Bad everything....except for Giamatti.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:19 pm |
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Harry Warden
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Love it. The acting by all was fantastic (especially Giamatti) and the story was endlessly interesting, not just for what it says about mythology and the power it can have on all of us but also that it was a different sort of film. Sure, Shyamalan is definitely egocentric but I'm more willing to forgive such behavior when the film is like this one.
One last thing, it's too bad the film was so poorly received because Giamatti deserves an Oscar nomination. He was consistently superb.
Grade - A-
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:20 pm |
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baumer72
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Joe wrote: Love it. The acting by all was fantastic (especially Giamatti) and the story was endlessly interesting, not just for what it says about mythology and the power it can have on all of us but also that it was a different sort of film. Sure, Shyamalan is definitely egocentric but I'm more willing to forgive such behavior when the film is like this one.
One last thing, it's too bad the film was so poorly received because Giamatti deserves an Oscar nomination. He was consistently superb.
Grade - A-
As much as i do not like this film, i will agree with you 100% with that statement. Giamatti is a sick sick actor. And i would have no problem with him being nominated.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:26 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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If Giamatti wasn't in this movie, I would have probably went closer to a C. Not only his acting, but a lot of the film depended on how much I believed him.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:49 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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baumer72 wrote: It's as bad as they say it is. Convoluted, poorly paced, characters that are useless and a story that is so void of intellect and interest that i am truly shocked that anyone would fund this. Giamatti is such a ridiculously good actor that he actually made me interested in his character and his character only, hence the only reason this doesn't get a 1.
3/10
I supposed that makes it better than The Village? 
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:59 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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So, to those acquainted with my tastes somewhat...
will I like it?
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zingy
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Dr. Lecter wrote: So, to those acquainted with my tastes somewhat...
will I like it?
Your expectations seem low, so yeah, I think you'd like it at least a little.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:45 pm |
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El Maskado
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572
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At least it wont be horrible like AvP, I guarantee that
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:46 pm |
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BennyBlanco
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Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:51 pm Posts: 1102 Location: The Bronx
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Just saw it again off of a downloaded cam rip and it's definitely a better watch the second time around, knowing what to look for and being acclimated to the tone. The ending hit me pretty hard this time, Giamatti's breakdown and those shots from underwater as the eagle takes Story away. Gorgeous stuff and patented Shyamalan. My grade stays at a B+.
Oh, and James Newton-Howard really hit it out of the ballpark again with his music. I got my hands on the soundtrack and there are some truly breathtaking cues and wonderful motifs woven throughout. The first track, the one that plays over the opening monologue, is my favourite. I hope, much like the Spielberg/Williams duo, that this partnership between Night and James never ends.
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Chippy
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So I saw it again last night. I enjoyed it even more.  I was looking for more things to notice and tried to focus in on the little things the story had to offer. It was such an enjoyable experience to see such an enchanting story being told.
9.8/10 A+
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Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:26 am |
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Mr. Reynolds
Confessing on a Dance Floor
Joined: Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:46 am Posts: 5578 Location: Celebratin' in Chitown
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m.n.s. needs to hire a new marketing group. It's as simple as that. The Village disappointed because it wasn't marketed for what it really was.
They did it again with lady in the water. For some reason they think it's a supernatural thriller. but it's not. it's a sweet, real fairy tale. I have not seen a movie like this in years. It did have flaws so by no means is it a perfect movie, but it's not crap the way crictics and some are saying. I was actually motivated and involved by and with everything in the movie.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:41 am |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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Hmmmm....out of all of Shyamalan's movies, LITW will probably end up as the cultiest one.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:24 pm |
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kypade
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I don't think people realize that when the trailer says "A Bedtime Story by M. Night Shyamalan" that's ex-ZACTLY what they mean. :O
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:02 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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A bedtime story acted out by a bunch of bozos! 
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