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Dr. Lecter
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 WOKJ Weekend Analysis July 21-23 and final gross projections
http://www.worldofkj.com/boxoffice/Wrap ... 1_2006.php
Enjoy and comment if you like!
All discussion appreciated!
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:29 am |
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zingy
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As always, excellent article. Agreed with all the projections.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:36 am |
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Joker's Thug #3
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AWFUL
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:37 am |
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you still dont see superman getting 200 million. wow.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:39 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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excel wrote: you still dont see superman getting 200 million. wow.
Read what I wrote!
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:42 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Killuminati510 wrote: AWFUL
So are you in bed, says Uwe Boll.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:42 am |
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Joker's Thug #3
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: AWFUL So are you in bed, says Uwe Boll. Dont act like that night in guatemala never happened.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:44 am |
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Dr. Lecter wrote: excel wrote: you still dont see superman getting 200 million. wow. Read what I wrote!
i did and your stil clearly biased against it. it dropped 39%(which you called solid yet pointed out how good pirates drop was) when it lost 900 thetaers, if that doesnt tell you something then id unno what will. lack of theaters wont matter THAT much cause its not making huge numbers any more. it will still churn out 5 million next wekeend even if its only only 2200 theaters. i know noone here wants to admit but the big loser theater count wise this weekend is gonna be pirates its sat at 4133 for 3 weeks in a row.
you know a 39% drop is actually very good. in supermans 3rd wekeend it dropepd 43%. you described it as "it dropped a further 43%" and then this weke say "pirates only dropped 43% in 3rd weekend". biasness. you say last week you think a 42% drops inevatable at the very least and beats that, but you only add 3 million to the total. everythign you predcred-like it gettting hit hard this weekend-hasnt happened. it mad enearly 8 million this weeken dyet you see a it totaling just 20 million more..... great reasoning right there.
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Joker's Thug #3
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SR is in it's 4th week making 7m, Pirates in it's 3rd week is making 35m. Eventually when you get that low you should be leveling off atleast a bit, a drop of 25% would've been considered GREAT, practically 40% isnt anything to write home about.
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Eventine
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Great read and all projections are dead on.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:49 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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excel wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: excel wrote: you still dont see superman getting 200 million. wow. Read what I wrote! i did and your stil clearly biased against it. it dropped 39%(which you called solid yet pointed out how good pirates drop was) when it lost 900 thetaers, if that doesnt tell you something then id unno what will. lack of theaters wont matter THAT much cause its not making huge numbers any more. it will still churn out 5 million next wekeend even if its only only 2200 theaters. i know noone here wants to admit but the big loser theater count wise this weekend is gonna be pirates its sat at 4133 for 3 weeks in a row.
Hehe, I wonder who of us is biased. "Solid" is solid. Is "solid" bad? Pirates' dropped 43.8% coming off a $60+ million weekend, of course that is FAR more impressive. And considering that Pirates is the biggest moviemaker for theatre owners out there, tell me, why the hell should theatres drop it instead of Superman and why should it become the biggest theatres loser with its still making great great numbers?! That doesn't make any sense. Click, Superman and maybe Prada will be the big theatres losers and if the estimated number this weekend is correct and is $7.5 million, then there is no way it'll make $5 million next weekend, droppoing less than 34%...it'll probably lose another 700 theatres or so and many screens...
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Killuminati510 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: AWFUL So are you in bed, says Uwe Boll. Dont act like that night in guatemala never happened.
Guatemala doesn't count for anything...!
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:50 am |
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we shall see, lecter. how you expect cars to surive in even less thetares and screens -long enough to make another 20 million-but not superman-is beyond me, really.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:52 am |
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IMAX is bascailly SR's saving grace right now and Ant Bully will be taking away alot of those next week, so another big drop in theaters next weekend and losing a bunch of IMAX screen = no shot at 5m.
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:52 am |
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coming from the people who thought a 45% drop was a lock 
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Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:54 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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excel wrote: we shall see, lecter. how you expect cars to surive in even less thetares and screens -long enough to make another 20 million-but not superman-is beyond me, really.
I projected $198 million for Superman. It stands at $178 million. This means, I did project a further $20 million for Superman!  I also said that if WB wants to, they will get it past $200 million, but not without a little help.
Cars is obviously holding on to theatres very well. Disney makes sure that happens and movies like Cars always, ALWAYS play very well into August and even September.
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That was before I realized WB was paying people to go see SR 
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Killuminati510 wrote: IMAX is bascailly SR's saving grace right now and Ant Bully will be taking away alot of those next week, so another big drop in theaters next weekend and losing a bunch of IMAX screen = no shot at 5m.
I wonder how much the WB wishes it stuck with the August 4th release date for Ant Bully. It would probably make the same amount of money against Talladega Nights as it will against Miami Vice.
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Great analysis.
Surprised that Dupree can get that high actually, 80 mil+ is very solid.
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Dr. Lecter wrote: excel wrote: we shall see, lecter. how you expect cars to surive in even less thetares and screens -long enough to make another 20 million-but not superman-is beyond me, really. I projected $198 million for Superman. It stands at $178 million. This means, I did project a further $20 million for Superman!  I also said that if WB wants to, they will get it past $200 million, but not without a little help. Cars is obviously holding on to theatres very well. Disney makes sure that happens and movies like Cars always, ALWAYS play very well into August and even September.
lol you dont know what i mean. you expect cars to be making 20 million after it got 4.9 million. supermans getting around that. why cant it make 20 million AFTER next weekend is what im saying. itll be arond 188 by next weekend.
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We're talking about a difference of $2 million dollars here right, maybe less?
Close enough!
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Disney really couldn't ask for a better outcome. The two films combined will make $670m+, beating Nemo/P1's $645m combo. Unbelievable. Do you remember when that was a big deal? I don't, because I hadn't joined BOM then, but wow...
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jmart007 wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: IMAX is bascailly SR's saving grace right now and Ant Bully will be taking away alot of those next week, so another big drop in theaters next weekend and losing a bunch of IMAX screen = no shot at 5m. I wonder how much the WB wishes it stuck with the August 4th release date for Ant Bully. It would probably make the same amount of money against Talladega Nights as it will against Miami Vice. Yeah, it's a dumb move. It might've even made more, it's coming out against another CGI childrens film and House's second weekend.
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Dr. Lecter
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excel wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: excel wrote: we shall see, lecter. how you expect cars to surive in even less thetares and screens -long enough to make another 20 million-but not superman-is beyond me, really. I projected $198 million for Superman. It stands at $178 million. This means, I did project a further $20 million for Superman!  I also said that if WB wants to, they will get it past $200 million, but not without a little help. Cars is obviously holding on to theatres very well. Disney makes sure that happens and movies like Cars always, ALWAYS play very well into August and even September. lol you dont know what i mean. you expect cars to be making 20 million after it got 4.9 million. supermans getting around that. why cant it make 20 million AFTER next weekend is what im saying. itll be arond 188 by next weekend.
Well, because the weekend after the next, it'll likely be playing in about 1,300 theatres or less...
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Dr. Lecter
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Shack wrote: Great analysis.  Surprised that Dupree can get that high actually, 80 mil+ is very solid.
Yeah, might end up with the best multiplier for a comedy this summer, save for Prada.
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