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DP07
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xiayun wrote: If one checks the BOM chart, among all the films that broke the opening-weekend record over the years, the most frontloaded one is The Lost World, and that only had its opening accounted for 31.5% of its total gross. I don't see a multiplier lower than 3.0.
But that was in another era with less frontloading. heh, I'm arguing against my side here.
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Shack
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It's still a highly anticipated sequel, that a lot of people rushed out to. And 135 mil is a shitload of money.
A Shrek 2 multiplier is impossible.
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Anita Hussein Briem
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DP07 wrote: xiayun wrote: If one checks the BOM chart, among all the films that broke the opening-weekend record over the years, the most frontloaded one is The Lost World, and that only had its opening accounted for 31.5% of its total gross. I don't see a multiplier lower than 3.0. But that was in another era with less frontloading. heh, I'm arguing against my side here.
All the record-breakers since The Lost World have had better legs.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:13 pm |
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DP07
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Hitokiri Battousai wrote: DP07 wrote: xiayun wrote: If one checks the BOM chart, among all the films that broke the opening-weekend record over the years, the most frontloaded one is The Lost World, and that only had its opening accounted for 31.5% of its total gross. I don't see a multiplier lower than 3.0. But that was in another era with less frontloading. heh, I'm arguing against my side here. All the record-breakers since The Lost World have had better legs.
Yeah, exactly. That one was unusually frontloaded.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:15 pm |
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bABA
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because it turned out to be crap.
the same would have happened with reloaded.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:17 pm |
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Zingaling wrote: I don't have an excuse. I'm still predicing the same multiplier as I was prior to the weekend (3x). That'd give it $406 million, which is what I predicted in the "Top 10 Movies of 2006" thread. 
Then you have always been going too low on the legs. 
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:17 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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BOM has the dailies.
Friday: $55,830,600
Saturday: $44,443,225 (-20%)
Sunday: $35,360,729 (-20%)
$100,273,825 in two days.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:21 pm |
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DP07
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hmm, if the numbers really are fudged like the doubters say then the Sunday drop is incredible. heh
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:22 pm |
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bABA
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i ........ still suspect that 2 day thing.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:23 pm |
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liesse00
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Yea it made more alright!!! Go Pirates!! No fudging
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Mannyisthebest
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thats mighty impressive!
Almost 56 million opening day!
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Anita Hussein Briem
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Don't forget that Saturday and Sunday were equally underestimated in the beginning.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:26 pm |
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Eventine
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Hitokiri Battousai wrote: Don't forget that Saturday and Sunday were equally underestimated in the beginning.
Friday was underestimated as well. 
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:28 pm |
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baumer72
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Well, if the official numbers have it breaking 100 mill, then so be it. I don't buy it, but hey, that's what it says, that's what it says.
Congrats to Pirates.
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Supafroius
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Substantial increase! Daily Drops look ok, no fudge. Shrek 2 = Fudge... =p
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:31 pm |
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zingy
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It also beat Shrek 2 for the highest Sunday ever by just $0.4 million. I still think it's a little fishy, but whatever, it's official numbers now. Fantastic numbers.
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Dr. Lecter
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I think it's fudged, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter because we took ROTS' $50 million opening day for a fact as well, so...
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:33 pm |
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DP07
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Zingaling wrote: It also beat Shrek 2 for the highest Sunday ever by just $0.4 million. I still think it's a little fishy, but whatever, it's official numbers now. Fantastic numbers.
Well, they can't both be fudged higher. heh 
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neo_wolf
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Fucking impressive, well, there is no way it doesnt do 350mill+ now.I admit i was wrong, it should do about 17-18mill today.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:35 pm |
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Anita Hussein Briem
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DP07 wrote: Zingaling wrote: It also beat Shrek 2 for the highest Sunday ever by just $0.4 million. I still think it's a little fishy, but whatever, it's official numbers now. Fantastic numbers. Well, they can't both be fudged higher. heh 
Yes, they can't fudge all three days higher. 
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Eventine
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neo_wolf wrote: I admit i was wrong
 We've got a sport here.
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andaroo1
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baumer72 wrote: Well, if the official numbers have it breaking 100 mill, then so be it. I don't buy it, but hey, that's what it says, that's what it says.
Congrats to Pirates.
Yeah, I was silent but I thought the estimates could be fudged, but questioning it after these "official actuals" come out is opening up a larger can of worms about Hollywood's accounting in general.
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Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:38 pm |
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DP07
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andaroo wrote: baumer72 wrote: Well, if the official numbers have it breaking 100 mill, then so be it. I don't buy it, but hey, that's what it says, that's what it says.
Congrats to Pirates. Yeah, I was silent but I thought the estimates could be fudged, but questioning it after these "official actuals" come out is opening up a larger can of worms about Hollywood's accounting in general.
But actuals are fudged all the time. Look at Cars and Signs. There are 6 between 50m-50.8m, but none between 49m-50m. There are 7 at 40m-40.5m, but only one at 39.5m-40m. There are 10 at 30m-30.5m (9 actually under 30.2m) and only 4 at 29.5m-30m. It goes on....
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Alfred
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Amazing for Pirates, but I'm still thinking that it will end up around 360m.
Very good for cars, I have four wishes wishes for the summer:
1 Cars to overtake X-men 3
2 X-Men 3 to fail to beat WotW
3 Great OW for Miami Vice
4 WTC to be a great movie, nothing else matters
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andaroo1
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DP07 wrote: But actuals are fudged all the time. Look at Cars and Signs. There are 6 between 50m-50.8m, but none between 49m-50m. There are 7 at 40m-40.5m, but only one at 39.5m-40m. There are 10 at 30m-30.5m (9 actually under 30.2m) and only 4 at 29.5m-30m. It goes on....
You still have absolutely no proof either way that those are "fudged" numbers, if you did, which ones? Even if your theory holds water the Pirates numbers still could be completely legitimate. If they are accepted by the accountants and the stock holders of these companies then there is really nothing that can be said. If Warner Bros. isn't going to launch a huge complaint challenging the numbers and at the end of the year nothing illegal has happened then were do we begin?
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