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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6153 Location: New York
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excel wrote: hence why pirates 2 wil stop at 370. to get 400 million you have to be INSANELY AMAZING!
Shrek 2 and The Phantom Menace are two of the most mediocre films I've ever seen.
Spider-Man isn't that amazing to me either (though the sequel was a big improvement). You just have to have a really wide audience.
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Amer
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:35 pm Posts: 1912 Location: Texas
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WHich is something pirates has...Everyhting you want it has...And it also has hot actors/actresses to attract young people...Its got it all...
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:39 pm |
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redspear
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CptJackSparrow wrote: WHich is something pirates has...Everyhting you want it has...And it also has hot actors/actresses to attract young people...Its got it all...
I think you meant to say that what pirates has contrived sceneriaos, a standardized plot, drag queen pirates, predictable action, overemphasised classism, poor writing and simple humor.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:58 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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300m+ in 10 days.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:01 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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Joined: Wed May 10, 2006 3:53 pm Posts: 8642 Location: Toronto, Canada
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but its much better then most stuff this year... and in reality the only films i have liked this year have been cars and X-men3.
Pirates made a lot of money because it was different from other films, however as pirates as become a pop culture icon the next two films will be widely successfull.
The fact is people won't match great films which aren't entertaining. Batman was a great film and was very good but people said "TO MUCH TALKING", " I WANTED TO SEE BATMAN BEAT UP PEOPLE NOT LECTURE US"
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:03 pm |
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redspear
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Mannyisthebest wrote: but its much better then most stuff this year... and in reality the only films i have liked this year have been cars and X-men3.
Well you and I haven't seen PoTC2 yet. I don't have much faith in it which is why it won't get 10 dollars from me. You are ritgh though it is aggitating for me ithat no good films have come out this year.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:06 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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imo taking an elitest view on each movie just ruins every movie you will ever watch. Just wanting to have a fun time usally imo makes most movie fun and entertaing. The main purpose of movies is to entertain.
However Like today i watched Lawerence Of Arabia and i bet a majority of the general audience couldn't watch this film even though i loved it. Why, its too long, too much talking, the hero is actually bad, not enough action.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:15 pm |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32634 Location: the last free city
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BJ wrote: 300m+ in 10 days.
u crack me up BJ
Fastest to 300m Sith 17 days Shrek2 18 days SP2 19 days SP1 22 days ROTK 24 days TPM 28 days
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:16 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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i see 30 days.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:18 pm |
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redspear
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Mannyisthebest wrote: imo taking an elitest view on each movie just ruins every movie you will ever watch. Just wanting to have a fun time usally imo makes most movie fun and entertaing. The main purpose of movies is to entertain.
However Like today i watched Lawerence Of Arabia and i bet a majority of the general audience couldn't watch this film even though i loved it. Why, its too long, too much talking, the hero is actually bad, not enough action.
Yet the only films that really bugged me have been ID4,PoTC,NT,(actually kind of liked The Rock), adn Snake Eyes.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:18 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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ID4 imo is not a good film however it is a widely fun film. I think pirates will be always those movies critics don't really like but is beloved by the general movie going public.
Few movies have pleased both groups.
Lotr is the best example of that.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:20 pm |
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redspear
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Mannyisthebest wrote: ID4 imo is not a good film however it is a widely fun film. I think pirates will be always those movies critics don't really like but is beloved by the general movie going public.
Few movies have pleased both groups.
Lotr is the best example of that.
Imagine Manny if ID5 was released this year to become the biggest grossing film of the year.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:22 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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if it was as fun as the first i wouldn't be surprised.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:25 pm |
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redspear
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Mannyisthebest wrote: but its much better then most stuff this year... and in reality the only films i have liked this year have been cars and X-men3.
Pirates made a lot of money because it was different from other films, however as pirates as become a pop culture icon the next two films will be widely successfull.
The fact is people won't match great films which aren't entertaining. Batman was a great film and was very good but people said "TO MUCH TALKING", " I WANTED TO SEE BATMAN BEAT UP PEOPLE NOT LECTURE US"
It only seemed different. It was still the same old movies you see every day just a different setting.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:28 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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Maybe it was Johnny Depp, he was the reason why the first movie was different in any way. A strong performance by a single actor that is the highlite of the movie is rare in these days.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:30 pm |
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redspear
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Mannyisthebest wrote: Maybe it was Johnny Depp, he was the reason why the first movie was different in any way. A strong performance by a single actor that is the highlite of the movie is rare in these days.
Depp did recieve rave reviews for his acting in PoTC that was a definite factor, also Orlando Bloom was another factor.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:31 pm |
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Mannyisthebest
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He was the highlite of the film and was very entertaining and was one of the best performances that year.
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Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:35 pm |
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BJ
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revolutions wrote: BJ wrote: 300m+ in 10 days. u crack me up BJ Fastest to 300m Sith 17 days Shrek2 18 days SP2 19 days SP1 22 days ROTK 24 days TPM 28 days
oh I've see nthe chart many times doesnt meen the record wont be smashed 
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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BJ's going to be the only person calling a $120m weekend a disappointment.
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Shack
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Except for DP07, who will be calling anything under 140 million a huge disappointment, heh.
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DP07
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Nazgul9 wrote: Than what was your point?
That he was using his biases in his predictions.
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DP07
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:26 am Posts: 15573 Location: Everywhere
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I won't call anything a disappointment. It won't happen though.
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baumer72
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:00 pm Posts: 7087 Location: Crystal Lake
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Less than 110 opening Weekend...and less than a 42 mill OD. 
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The Dark Shape
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DP07 wrote: I won't call anything a disappointment. It won't happen though.
Care to make a bet on that? Over/under $140m? 
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baumer72
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The Dark Shape wrote: DP07 wrote: I won't call anything a disappointment. It won't happen though. Care to make a bet on that? Over/under $140m? 
Yes, I'd like in on that as well.
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