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And then a rush back and see it again factor. :biggrin:

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who is tracking this film? I was thinking of making a tracking thread.

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runtime is 2 hours and 30 minutes


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liesse00 wrote:
runtime is 2 hours and 30 minutes


Like it should be.

Now we just need the offficial announcement of the PG-13 rating I'm 99% sure it will get.

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Bring on graphic violence! Rated R! :biggrin:

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To be serious, there is no way this gets a rating other than PG-13.

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Eventine wrote:
To be serious, there is no way this gets a rating other than PG-13.


It just got rated PG-13 for "Intense sequences of adventure violence and frightening images"

first film had a PG-13 rating for "adventure/ action violence."

Its been posted at the Pirates 2 homepage.

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To be serious, I think the ceiling for this film is 310 mill.

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baumer72 wrote:
To be serious, I think the ceiling for this film is 310 mill.

You're too narrow minded, baumer. The ceiling - the absolute highest it could go - is like $450 million (don't tell DP and BJ). The lowest is could go is $250 million. I wouldn't be surprised by any gross within that range.

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baumer72 wrote:
To be serious, I think the ceiling for this film is 310 mill.


That would make the top 10 movies of this year look very ugly compared to previous years.

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BJ wrote:
Eventine wrote:
To be serious, there is no way this gets a rating other than PG-13.


It just got rated PG-13 for "Intense sequences of adventure violence and frightening images"

first film had a PG-13 rating for "adventure/ action violence."

Its been posted at the Pirates 2 homepage.


Good. I would have been very angry if Disney had sweet-talked its way into getting a PG out of it.

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2 and a half hours is fine. but my concern is, how many theaters is this gonna be able to get in? superman will have taken so many and wont lsoe em cause its only the second week. but if its get like 3500-3600 theaters at 2:30 i dunno if my 130 million ow is possible. itd have to sell out or come very close to selling out at every showing which would be very hard on say a friday morning.


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excel wrote:
2 and a half hours is fine. but my concern is, how many theaters is this gonna be able to get in? superman will have taken so many and wont lsoe em cause its only the second week. but if its get like 3500-3600 theaters at 2:30 i dunno if my 130 million ow is possible. itd have to sell out or come very close to selling out at every showing which would be very hard on say a friday morning.


SR won't get much more than 3,800, and with all the hype this one's been getting, I'd say it would get around 3,800-4,000.

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excel wrote:
2 and a half hours is fine. but my concern is, how many theaters is this gonna be able to get in? superman will have taken so many and wont lsoe em cause its only the second week. but if its get like 3500-3600 theaters at 2:30 i dunno if my 130 million ow is possible. itd have to sell out or come very close to selling out at every showing which would be very hard on say a friday morning.


It'll probably be between 4100-4190. There is 0 chance of this opening in less than 4,000 theaters, don't worry.


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Eventine wrote:
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To be serious, I think the ceiling for this film is 310 mill.


That would make the top 10 movies of this year look very ugly compared to previous years.


It happens though - I think $300m is enough to win the year and it looks likely that POTC will max out at $300-$320m max. Other years have had lower grossing no.1's - 1995, 1998 (excl Titanic's run) and 2000 being prime examples.

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excel wrote:
2 and a half hours is fine. but my concern is, how many theaters is this gonna be able to get in? superman will have taken so many and wont lsoe em cause its only the second week. but if its get like 3500-3600 theaters at 2:30 i dunno if my 130 million ow is possible. itd have to sell out or come very close to selling out at every showing which would be very hard on say a friday morning.


Spider-Man, ROTS and X-3 all did it in less than 3,700 theaters. So what if SR is in over 4k theaters? During Memorial Day, the TC counts of the top 3 were all above 3,600, and a lot were in over 3,000. I'm sure Pirates can manage at least 3,800.

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Same was thought to be with X3. Look what happend.

But as X3 showed, theater counts mean nothing. 3,500+ is enough. Its all about the screens really. X3 had less theaters than X2, but more screens. Big key right there.


yeah i know, anything over 3500 is fine. but x3 wasnt even 100 minutes. pirates 2 is 150. that limits its showtimes per screen A LOT. While x3 was getting 5-6 showings a day on each screen, pirates will be getting 3-4. less showtimes = less chances to sell out and that ll make adifference. dont think for a second that xmens running time wasnt what it got 44.5 million. it sold almost everyshowing, and the reason it had so many oppritunites to sell out was short running time. its not THAT big of deal, but its something to think about it. superman will have the same problem, but itll likely open in over 4000 so it wont have to much to worry about.

and to whoever said pirates is a lock to get 4000 screens.....NOOOOOOOOOOO

Superman will still be in 4000+
click in 3250+
cars in 2700+
nacho-2500+
fast furious-2000+
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pirates will probably get like, 3700 n expand to 3900 in its second weekend or something.


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screen count isnt what im worried bout. its the amount of showings per screen. x3 had 23 showings a day n sold out 20 of em at my theater cause its so short. at 150 minutes pirates will only be able to have like 16-18 on the same screen count(and thats assuming it gets the same screen count which it probably wont,if it gets any less it might not even be able break 45 million friday, let alone the 50 i expected), so even if it sold out EVERY showing, it wouldnt beat x3s opening day.


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You know better than this excel.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/cha ... =21&p=.htm

Over the Hedge was in 4,093
Da Vinci Code was in 3,754
Poseidon was in 3,245
Mission: Impossible III was in 3,053
RV was in 2,481
Just My Luck was in 1,604

Pirates will get at least 3,800 and will still muster more than $120 million OW.

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im sure itll break 120. but i was predicting 140 and i dont think can hapen at the moment. has themarket place ever had two 4000 theater movies?

yeah magnus is right, theater will be giving lots of screens to pirate sbut like i said-its the run time im worried about. its not gonna keep under 120 million, but it wont get the 140 million i was hoping for.

as for superman not making 35 million, it all depends really. againall the sellouts=lots of crowd over flow.plus if superman gets good of mouth, itll top 35. not 40, but 35.


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excel wrote:
im sure itll break 120. but i was predicting 140 and i dont think can hapen at the moment. has themarket place ever had two 4000 theater movies?

yeah magnus is right, theater will be giving lots of screens to pirate sbut like i said-its the run time im worried about. its not gonna keep under 120 million, but it wont get the 140 million i was hoping for.

as for superman not making 35 million, it all depends really. againall the sellouts=lots of crowd over flow.plus if superman gets good of mouth, itll top 35. not 40, but 35.


Wait you are assuming Superman Returns will be 4000 but not POTC II? Reverse that.

June of 2004 was pretty much 4000 and 4000 with Shrek & Harry Potter.


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reverse it? why? superman opens first thus will get more screens just like narnia getting more the kong. it is that simple.


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excel wrote:
reverse it? why? superman opens first thus will get more screens just like narnia getting more the kong. it is that simple.


Pirates only needs 3400-3600 theaters to break ever record imaginable anyway :biggrin:

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excel wrote:
reverse it? why? superman opens first thus will get more screens just like narnia getting more the kong. it is that simple.


No, you are mistaken. Theaters are a business. Narnia was tracking well ahead of King Kong. Pirates is tracking WELL ahead of Superman.

Secondly, I don't even think Narnia opened in more theaters than Kong. If so, then not many.


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Narnia opened in less than 50 theaters more than Kong. Not really saying anything.

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