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andaroo1
Lord of filth
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:47 pm Posts: 9566
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insein-darko wrote: Was I the only one who thought the ending was just perfect?
nope!
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:53 pm |
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Goldie
Forum General
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:38 pm Posts: 7286 Location: TOP*SECRET ******************** ******************** ******************** ********************
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andaroo wrote: insein-darko wrote: Was I the only one who thought the ending was just perfect? nope!
I didn't have a problem with the movie or the ending. I thought it was fine.
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:12 pm |
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Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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Eh.
It was a good film, but it really left me with a "What the hell?" feeling at the end. It was good on its own, but the story was a bit too odd to really work well. The acting and screenplay were brilliant, but the plot needed some better development. It really started to lag towards the end as well.
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:33 pm |
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kypade
Kypade
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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a brilliant screenplay with a lagging finale, a story too odd to work well, and an undeveloped plot... :O
the dialog was brilliant?
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:11 pm |
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Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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kypade wrote: a brilliant screenplay with a lagging finale, a story too odd to work well, and an undeveloped plot... :O
the dialog was brilliant?
Are you asking me? Or commenting?
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:42 pm |
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kypade
Kypade
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commenting at first, as i'm not sure how a brilliant screenplay can yield such results...
and then asking if you mean the spoken dialogue was brilliant.
i tend to think of the screenplay as being more than just the words (and therefore if the end lags and the story doesnt work well and the plot is not fully fleshed out, i'd say the screenplay was at fault,) so i'm just looking for clarification, i suppose.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:24 am |
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Jeff
Christian's #1 Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:25 pm Posts: 28110 Location: Awaiting my fate
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Well I thought the plot itself was good up until the major shift occured. The dialogue was great during the early part of it. I think the biggest problem is the final climatic scene could have been completely eliminated without harming the overall quality of the film. In the end though it would have made everything work out better.
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:29 am |
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AlexGTX
Speed Racer
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:16 pm Posts: 192
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A very well made thriller, with quite the amount of violence, sex and im quite sure there was booze too . Great acting all around one of the years best with an amazing ending. It sure as hell lives up to the hype.
8/10 (B+)
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Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:16 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:56 pm Posts: 26066 Location: In good ol' Mexico
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Meh! It was OK, the performances were great, but I don’t know I wanted to see more.
And the some of the sex scenes for me were kinda unnecessary especially the one of the stairs
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40593
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C+
Unfortunatley for me, I thought this movie was the most overrated of the year. I just didn't connect with it at all. It was too short, too arupt, the plot had no depth, there was no character development, etc. There was some interesting violent scenes yes, but they didn't last long and there wasn't that many of them. There was just as much time taken by the 2 sex scenes. Acting by Bello was good, but Viggo was not. Also, the movie has unrealistic holes and flaws all over. A dorky kid would not be able to send 3 jocks to the hospital with his fists. Why did Rich fire 6 point-blank shots at Joe, and miss every one?
Anyways, yeah. I didn't like it.
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Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:48 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Now that months have passed, I think this is really a movie that sticks with you. It is still in my Top 10 of the year and is likely to stay there too when all is said and done.
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Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:03 am |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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I waited six months...for this!
Viggo Mortissen really can't act to save a life, seriously. The exposition was terrible and many scenes were abrupt and moves a little too quickly to avoid the inconsistancies. Very overrated. However, there was a lot to like as well.
C+
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Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:19 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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getluv wrote: Viggo Mortissen really can't act to save a life, seriously. I liked the movie overall more than you, but I agree 100% about Viggo - here's an excerpt from my review earlier in this thread: bradley witherberry wrote: I really enjoyed this movie, and would have given it highest marks, except for the unfortunate choice of Viggo Mortensen as the lead. Sheesh! This guy is the male equivalent of Jessica Simpson - how does he keep gettin' work?!?
I suppose it's still the after effect of LOTR - we'll have to put up with actors like Ego Moron's Son and Orlando Bloomin' Idiot for a couple more years, until directors have exploited their box office draw and realize they can't act worth a damn...
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android
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:44 am Posts: 2913 Location: Portugal
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Viggo was brilliant in this?
(and I'm not one of his biggest fans out there...)
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Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:56 pm |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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The A-(and a bit of B)list who can't act:
Viggo
Orlando
Kirsten
Tobey
James Franco
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Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:49 pm |
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Dkmuto
Forum General
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:00 am Posts: 6502
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Of all the more thematically heavy films released last year (Munich, Crash, Capote, etc.), this was by far the hardest for me to wrap my head around.
And I think that's both the film's strongpoint and its minor downfall: Its overt subject matter and scenes don't really mesh with its subtle implications, I thought. This was most likely Cronenberg's intention, but it just didn't hit me like I thought it would, or like it should have.
But it's otherwise a great watch. B+
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:53 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 7:22 pm Posts: 6645
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Probably the best movie of 2005. Viggo Mortensen's slow-burn performance was an effective one, and the conclusion was really well done. The film says a lot about the complexities of individuals and how we're all capable of comitting unspeakable acts, regardless of what one may expect. Even though I liked Crash, I think this movie highlights why so many people didn't. A History of Violence is about not drawing conclusions and relying on the power of ambiguity to make it all the more compelling.
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Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:22 am |
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19444 Location: San Diego
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Hm... I don't know.
There are times when I really liked it, but as a whole I found it a bit underwhelming. I still liked it a lot though. Some of the material didn't work for me, like Joey/Tom's characterization and other bits...
Overall, its a pretty solid movie. Oh, and I didn't think William Hurt's performance was anything too great. Maria Bello was great though. I thought Viggo was pretty good, too.  *shrug*
B/B+.
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:57 pm |
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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It just tries to hard and never connects on an emotional level. The characters are stale, especially Viggo who couldn't act to save his life. The story is decent and the movie does have a few good scenes, but the first 20 minutes is hard to get through with all the terrible, terrible acting. Wasn't impressed by Bello, and Ed Harris stole the movie with his performance. I just have very mixed feelings about this one. With the right people it could've been great, but with the wrong people (Viggo) the characters just don't connect.
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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This movie was a little hard to take the first time I saw it, but the second time was better. Mario Bello is very underrated in this, as is Ed Harris. William Hurt, while great, may be a little overrated. He does leave a huge impression for the amount of time he's on screen, though.
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:15 pm |
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Squee
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:01 pm Posts: 13270 Location: Yuppieville
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This film was shockingly graphic, and Im not talking about just the violence.
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Christian
Team Kris
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Squee wrote: This film was shockingly graphic, and Im not talking about just the violence.
When the two teens were smoking pot in public? 
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:20 pm |
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paper
Artie the One-Man Party
Joined: Sat Sep 17, 2005 2:53 pm Posts: 4632
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Great movie. Hurt was superb. I won't lie though, it didn't fully involve me emotionally, but I didn't mind.
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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One of the most deeply thematic movies I've seen. The film revolves around its message, rather than its story, making it an interesting watch. The act of violence is viewed quite ambiguously, as the film leaves it unsure whether it is justified in self-defense or even as a form of protection. The plot was a bit thin and full of holes, but it's not the most important part of this movie. The acting was superb from all four leads, and the directing was nothing short of phenomenal. But, still, the story left something to be desired; perhaps some more character development, or more scenes of the 'perfect family' unraveling, was needed. Some of the scenes at the beginning were far too casual, so much so that they became unrealistic. In fact, I found the 'cheesy family' scenes at the beginning far more unbelievable than some of the graphic sex and violence. I suppose it makes a better contrast to the family by the end of the film, though. The sex scenes were completely necessary and I had no problem with them, but the son's subplot bothered me - though I could see it was also necessary. I felt it waded into cliche too much. Altogether, a technically sound film that could have used a bit more to it.
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The Shotcaller
Speed Racer
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Throughout the last forty years or so, Hollywood has been attempting to examine comic books. It has come only within the last few years however, that the “man behind the mask†has attempted to be closely examined. It is easy, though, to give the classic archetype of comic book vigilante a back story, usually one involving loss and pain (Spiderman, Superman, Batman). It is in the opinion of this critic that the examination of a truer-to-life person, such as Tom Hanks’s Michael O’Sullivan, also known as the Angel of Death. Director David Cronenberg’s A History of Violence, however, may be the best take on a comic book character yet.
Violence stars Viggo Mortenson and Maria Bello as Tom and Edie Stall, a married couple living in Millbrook, Indiana, a town where nothing much ever happens. Cronenberg spends a good twenty minutes introducing the characters who live in this small, middle-of-nowhere town. What would usually be a straight introduction to the characters is actually the setup for the film’s central idea: how violence affects people.
In this opening Tom and Edie are seen running off to a motel for the night to engage in some kinky, teenage-style sex, while their son is being bullied at school. Everything changes one night, however, when two thugs try robbing the small restaurant that Tom owns. Forced into a corner, Tom kills the two men, and is injured in the process. The media and everyone in town declare Tom a hero.
The real mind games begin when three gangsters in black suits show up at Tom’s grill within the following days. Ed Harris plays the lead gangster Foggarty, and is chillingly at-home in his character’s shoes. Menacing, terrifying, and cunningly sly all at the same time, Foggarty walks into the restaurant and tells Tom, who he insists is actually an ex-gangster named Joey Cusack, to give it up, pack his bags, and come back to Philadelphia to the crime syndicate he used to be part of.
Cronengerg’s direction explodes at this point, and he lays on the paranoia thick. Maria Bello is terrific as a woman who initially doesn’t even think Foggarty could be telling the truth. As the evidence in favor of her husband being a mafioso piles on, however, she begins to break down. Mortenson, however, is the real star of this film. He takes a character who anyone could play at a nonchalant level and deconstructs him. Stall is a man who has been living a fake life existence for half his life, and he can’t seem to keep his mind entirely in the game anymore.
Cronenberg uses two sex scenes to let show how Tom and Edie have been affected by the violent acts that are dominating their lives. Before the violence there was love, and a cheerful, funny, and flirty love-making scene. When it seems that everything is mounting on them, all the emotions they have been suppressing explode onto the other in a violent sex scene.
Cronenberg’s aim for the film lies in the title: to examine how men with violent pasts act, and how violence is all too often used to settle disputes. It makes the viewer think about how they would react if such a traumatizing act as a man sticking a gun in their face, and where is the line of justification for violence marked?
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