Wal-Mart not selling BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN?
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Jeff
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I shop at WalMart.
On occasion.
Like tomorrow.
For tires.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:25 pm |
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coolmoviedude999
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I despise Walmart and never go there. There is just no reason to. Nothing I need. It's all junk. Junk food. Junk toys. Awful clothes I wouldn't dress my dead Grandma in. Junk, junk, junk.
Anything like gaming consoles, etc., are the same price everywhere.
My little cousin almost broke his neck on some cheap tricycle from Walmart. It was a birthday gift I think. I suppose Kathy Lee Gifford's staff in Ambushwa weren't too careful when it came to making the product.
Besides, they really aren't competitive with other stores when it comes to DVD's. Maybe a dollar or so, but you would pay that in gas to get there.
Anywho, Walmart is selling this film online. So, I guess it's not a mass thing with Walmart in general.
It's also a very filthy store with customers who appeared to have shot up before entering to purchase fruit rollups. Seriously. It's the dirtest store in our town which is a very nice town otherwise. Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, The Mall, Khohls, etc., are all clean. Walmart looks like a tornado hit it.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:48 pm |
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GCC
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Did anybody see the South Park episode about Wal-Mart?
LOL.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:44 pm |
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Animosity Reigns
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coolmoviedude999 wrote: I despise Walmart and never go there. There is just no reason to. Nothing I need. It's all junk. Junk food. Junk toys. Awful clothes I wouldn't dress my dead Grandma in. Junk, junk, junk.
Anything like gaming consoles, etc., are the same price everywhere.
My little cousin almost broke his neck on some cheap tricycle from Walmart. It was a birthday gift I think. I suppose Kathy Lee Gifford's staff in Ambushwa weren't too careful when it came to making the product.
Besides, they really aren't competitive with other stores when it comes to DVD's. Maybe a dollar or so, but you would pay that in gas to get there.
Anywho, Walmart is selling this film online. So, I guess it's not a mass thing with Walmart in general.
It's also a very filthy store with customers who appeared to have shot up before entering to purchase fruit rollups. Seriously. It's the dirtest store in our town which is a very nice town otherwise. Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, The Mall, Khohls, etc., are all clean. Walmart looks like a tornado hit it.
heh its funny we have a super target and a super walmart across the street from each other..... you go in walmart, dirty, nasty everywhere, crack whores walking around etc...
across the street at target, jags, bmws, mercedes etc in the parking lot, clean inside and only the upperscale type folk are in there....
its amazing to be honest... even around Xmas when everyone bumrushes these stores, all the trailer trash goes to walmart, just cause it is exactly $1 cheaper on everything over target
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:01 pm |
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Cotton
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Mike wrote: WAL-MART HIT BY BROKEBACK PROTEST Tuesday, April 4 2006 Wal-Mart has turned aside a massive letter-writing campaign by the American Family Association. urging the retailer to refuse to stock Brokeback Mountain, being distributed by Universal Home Entertainment. The group, which has successfully campaigned against what it considers to be broadcast indecency launched the campaign last week after ads for the film began being displayed prominently in the retailer's 3,900 stores. In an interview with today's (Tuesday) Los Angeles Times, the AFA's Randy Sharp, accused Wal-Mart of helping to push the "gay agenda" by "trying to help normalize homosexuality in society." He added, "But how many copies are they going to have to sell to [recoup] the losses of customers who they've offended and will no longer shop at Wal-Mart?" But a Wal-Mart spokeswoman replied, ""The fact that we are offering the movie is not an endorsement of the content of the movie or any specific belief. ...We simply offer the latest titles that consumers want."
I'm really happy Wal-Mart didn't cave into the campaign. For those who accuse gays and lesbians of being "overly sensitive" when they speak out against acts like these ought to set their sights on groups like the American Family Association instead.
Anyway, the article says that the AFA has "successfully campaigned" against the movie. What does that mean? Have they managed to convince other retailers to not sell BBM?
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:50 pm |
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Magic Mike
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I can't stand when people are like, "Who cares? Just shut up about it." If they refused to sell something like Hustle & Flow because it had people protesting and saying it was a gangsta movie and they don't want to promote some filthy pimp lifestyle then people would be up in arms about it, especially the African American community. But since it's over a gay issue gay people should just be quiet and take it. It's hypocrisy, because they all Wal-Mart to sell violent action films and horror movies, and yet a gay romance is absolutely not acceptable.
Wal-Mart sells "Brokeback" DVDs despite protests Wednesday April 5 8:02 PM ET
Wal-Mart Stores Inc., the world's largest retailer, went ahead with plans this week to sell DVD copies of the gay-themed film "Brokeback Mountain" despite protests from a Christian advocacy group.
The American Family Association, which called for a boycott against Ford Motor Co., for advertising in gay publications, recently began pressing Wal-Mart to refuse to carry the award-winning movie in its 3,700-plus U.S. stores.
The Tupelo, Mississippi-based group accused Wal-Mart of abandoning its "family-friendly" corporate image by selling the film, about two cowboys who carry on a homosexual love affair.
Movie posters for the film, featuring stars Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal, have been displayed prominently in Wal-Mart storefronts to promote the DVD release.
In a notice on its Web site, the group urged "concerned Christians to let their local Wal-Mart managers know how they feel and that they are not pleased over the chain's decision to promote and carry the pro-homosexual movie."
A Wal-Mart spokesman, Gail Lavielle, denied the retail giant was advocating any social agenda.
"The only thing we take into consideration when we decide to sell something is whether we think there's demand among our customers," Lavielle told Reuters. "We're a retailer. We want to sell things our customers will buy."
The film, which earned three Oscars, sold a hefty 1.4 million DVD copies its first day in all retail stores on Monday, according to Universal Studios Home Entertainment, part of the media division of General Electric Co..
"Brokeback" already has grossed roughly $160 million at the box office worldwide, including about $83 million domestically, which is not a blockbuster by Hollywood standards.
"It wasn't even a blockbuster movie, so if Wal-Mart isn't trying to push an agenda, why would they put it at the front door?" American Family Association executive Randy Sharp told the Los Angeles Times.
The film is not the first media product to put the group at odds with Wal-Mart.
According to the Times, the association led a campaign in 2003 pressing Wal-Mart to stop stocking magazines they considered indecent. As a result Wal-Mart halted sales of some men's magazines and placed plastic shields over others.
The American Family Association boasts a membership of 3 million. It launched a boycott against Ford last month, accusing it of reneging on a pledge to drop its ads for luxury brands Jaguar and Land Rover from gay publications.
Wal-Mart is one of America's largest sellers of DVDs.
Well, I'm glad BROKEBACK sold a nice amount of DVD's on Tuesday.
As for Best Buy selling the book-to-screen adaptation with the DVD I would have went an hour to buy it if they were but then I was told it was only for people who had some Best Buy membership thing or something. So that's not true? If not I'm pissed I missed out.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:33 pm |
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Michael.
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the AFA is basically another name for
WHITE, OBNOXIOUS, CHRISTIAN, MIDDLE-CLASS [WHO THINK THEY ARE UPPER CLASS], RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, DEMOCRATIC AND PATRIOTIC AMERICANS.
I sure am glad they are around to protect the family from the demon of homosexuality [wtf?!]
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:42 pm |
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MGKC
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Felicity Titwank wrote: the AFA is basically another name for WHITE, OBNOXIOUS, CHRISTIAN, MIDDLE-CLASS [WHO THINK THEY ARE UPPER CLASS], RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, DEMOCRATIC AND PATRIOTIC AMERICANS.
I sure am glad they are around to protect the family from the demon of homosexuality [wtf?!] Lol. I see. *shines off AFA badge* coolmoviedude999 wrote: My little cousin almost broke his neck on some cheap tricycle from Walmart. It was a birthday gift I think. I suppose Kathy Lee Gifford's staff in Ambushwa weren't too careful when it came to making the product.
I hope you didn't blame this on Wal-Mart.
I really don't get all the hate for it. They started from nothing and now that people like buying stuff from them, people get jealous. They provide the customer all its needs, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:54 pm |
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getluv
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It's disappointing America has these sorts of organisations running actively.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:59 pm |
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Cotton
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Meh, I really don't care much for Wal-Mart.
And only about 10% of their merchandise is actually "cheaper" compared to other retailers. They just advertise and promote the cheap stuff to get people to come in and think that they're saving money, when in fact they're really not.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:15 pm |
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Christian
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Well, going to Target is protest enough for me.
I still haven't forgiven WalMart for deceiving me. I bought a Pokemon game there seven years ago for full retail price!!!! They robbed me of my childhood. I have been training my Bulbasaur for years in order to exact my revenge.
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Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:17 pm |
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Raffiki
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Christian wrote: Well, going to Target is protest enough for me. I still haven't forgiven WalMart for deceiving me. I bought a Pokemon game there seven years ago for full retail price!!!! They robbed me of my childhood. I have been training my Bulbasaur for years in order to exact my revenge.
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Dkmuto
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MG Casey wrote: Felicity Titwank wrote: the AFA is basically another name for WHITE, OBNOXIOUS, CHRISTIAN, MIDDLE-CLASS [WHO THINK THEY ARE UPPER CLASS], RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, DEMOCRATIC AND PATRIOTIC AMERICANS.
I sure am glad they are around to protect the family from the demon of homosexuality [wtf?!] Lol. I see. *shines off AFA badge* coolmoviedude999 wrote: My little cousin almost broke his neck on some cheap tricycle from Walmart. It was a birthday gift I think. I suppose Kathy Lee Gifford's staff in Ambushwa weren't too careful when it came to making the product. I hope you didn't blame this on Wal-Mart. I really don't get all the hate for it. They started from nothing and now that people like buying stuff from them, people get jealous. They provide the customer all its needs, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
Please don't tell me you're under the impression that hatred for Wal-Mart stems from "jealousy"...
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:12 am |
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Rod
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1.4 million copies sold in one day is amazing for a movie of its kind.
For any movie, for that matter.
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DP07
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HiltonLohan2005 wrote: i personally am starting to get sick of wal-mart. usually i get my DVD's there opening week sometimes, because of the 1st week price sales, but now they have nothing in stock. i'd prefer to go to either target, Best buy, Circuit City, even though they sell it more expensively but hey they have that day after thanksgiving and christmas special, so i can strike a good deal 
Call up Wal-Mart to get their prices. Then at Circuit City or Best Buy go to customer service and ask for a price match. Even if you don't have an ad you can get the match if you know the price; they will call Wal-Mart to verify it. You should also get 10% or so of the difference, so the price will actually be lower.
Anyway, that's what I do . 
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Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:16 pm |
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DP07
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andaroo wrote: Mike wrote: I would have already pre-ordered Brokeback Mountain at Amazon if the shipping were free, but I don't think it is. I think you have to spend $25 in order to get free shipping. Brokeback Mountain (Widescreen Edition) - Heath Ledger $16.98 - Quantity: 1 - Not yet released - Eligible for Amazon Prime shipping rates: join now Condition: new Sold by: Amazon.com Items: $16.98 Shipping & Handling: $2.98 Total Before Tax: $19.96 Estimated Tax: $1.75 Order Total: $21.71 Most places sell DVDs for $15-$19 before sales tax. If the extra $2-$3 is worth selling your soul to Wal-Mart, then shop there. Typically, Amazon undercuts their DVDs enough that shipping balances the price out with Best Buy and the like. There is a choice (and Amazon.com isn't the only store on the web).
I've also used Bestbuy.com before with in store pick-up. They hold it for like a week, and there's obviously no shipping cost. You can get some DVD's (usually special editions) for a few dollars less even though you are buying the same exact DVD that's on the store shelf at the higher price. However, it can vary from one DVD to another.
One thing I do with Amazon is have a few things saved for later in my shopping cart. If I have an order that's under $25 I add to it so I can get the free shipping. I save stuff in the shopping cart if I want to eventually own the DVD or read the book, but I'm not in a rush. So, it works out pretty well that way.
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Libs
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Wal Mart=No Dice.
Target=Life.
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Cotton
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Mike wrote: I can't stand when people are like, "Who cares? Just shut up about it." If they refused to sell something like Hustle & Flow because it had people protesting and saying it was a gangsta movie and they don't want to promote some filthy pimp lifestyle then people would be up in arms about it, especially the African American community. But since it's over a gay issue gay people should just be quiet and take it. It's hypocrisy, because they all Wal-Mart to sell violent action films and horror movies, and yet a gay romance is absolutely not acceptable.
There is a definite double-standard. Groups like the AFA complain, bitch, and launch massive boycott campaigns against things they feel go against their values, but the second someone disagrees or has a different opinion, all hell breaks loose. It seems like they're allowed to push for what they believe in, while others are told to sit down, shit up and accept it. The AFA is constantly given the floor to speak in many media outlets and at political events -- which is prime real-estate for them to push their agenda. If GLAAD or any similar interest group wanted to do that, I'm sure they'd be told to go home 99% of the time.
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Jeff
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I'm going to voice my opinion and seriously I'm about fed up with this debate.
First off, for anyone who regularly reads this forums, you'll know that I'm gay and certainly not ashamed of it.
Now, in some areas it has been claimed that Wal-Mart does not sell the DVD in certain stores. That does not mean that WalMart is homophobic, attacking gay people or pushing a conservative agenda. Think about it. WalMart is a business, not a social reform agency. If there is a location in the midst of a highly conservative, fundamentalist-strong neighborhood, then it would make more business sense for Wal-Mart to not sell the DVD. Why? Because 1) it isn't going to sell well in that area at all, taking up valuable prime shelf space as well as costing the company money to have to ship copies back out once the promotional period is over. 2) it is going to alienate some of Wal-Mart's key customer base in that area and could cause significant damage to that store's business. So for some stores to not sell the DVD is the best option there is. Now, if Wal-Mart came out and said that it was going to refuse to sell the DVD nationwide due to it containing homosexual material, then we could argue that the company is homophobic.
I'm so sick of everyone screaming "racist", "homophobic" or other such words around as soon as somebody does something they don't like. Mike, you are just as bad as Cynthia McKinney crying "racist" to the Capitol Police officer the other day. You run around saying that everyone is homophobic just because it takes some people longer to accept a different lifestyle. Let them be for crying out loud. If they don't accept it that is their problem, they are narrow-minded and there is nothing you can do about it.
Instead of sitting here whining about it go out and do something. Get involved in GLAAD, start your own organization, write letters, do something, but don't just sit here and whine about it because honestly it is really getting annoying. Wal-Mart isn't homophobic if certain stores don't sell the DVD. Theater chains aren't homophobic if they didn't show the movie. Its called running a business.
And about the AFLA. Yeah, those people are seriously fucked up.
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:23 am |
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Magic Mike
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I'm not saying Wal-Mart is homophobic because some won't sell the movie (though it would be another story if all of them refused to sell it), but I'm saying that because of other things I've heard about them in the past. For one, they supposedly don't protect people of different sexual orientations from harrassment. It's not in the employment policy agreement. I know someone whose gay and works at the local Wal-Mart and they get harrassed by other employees for being gay all of the time and the management does nothing about it. In fact, they've been part of the harrassment. So I'm not saying they are homophobic just because they aren't all selling Brokeback Mountain.
Anyway, I had surgery yesterday but we were like an hour early (we weren't sure how long it would take to get there as it's over a couple hours away and we had a couple of stops to make so we left earlier) so we didn't go to the hospital right away. Instead I had my mom ask at a gas station if there was a Best Buy close by because I wanted to get the Brokeback Mountain DVD and Story-To-Screenplay book or whatever it's called that came with it. Yes I already bought the DVD at Wal-Mart, but that didn't have the book. I had thought you had to have some membership at Best Buy to get one since someone told me that, but then I found out on Wednesday night you don't have to. Anyway, I went there and asked for it and they were all sold out! I was so upset. But the guy checked to see if any around there had any in stock, and most of them, including the one an hour from where I live, were all sold out. But one 20 miles from where we were had quite a few in stock yet. So I talked my parents into going to get it for me when I was in surgery. So they went to pick it up for me while I was in surgery and my mom said it was only like $16.99. I was so happy I got it. I'm just going to take the Best Buy DVD back to Wal-Mart though since I have the Wal-Mart receipt. I'll obviously remove the Best Buy sticker though. I already opened the Wal-Mart one or I'd have just returned that.
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:02 pm |
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Jeff
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Mike wrote: I'm not saying Wal-Mart is homophobic because some won't sell the movie (though it would be another story if all of them refused to sell it), but I'm saying that because of other things I've heard about them in the past. For one, they supposedly don't protect people of different sexual orientations from harrassment. It's not in the employment policy agreement. I know someone whose gay and works at the local Wal-Mart and they get harrassed by other employees for being gay all of the time and the management does nothing about it. In fact, they've been part of the harrassment. So I'm not saying they are homophobic just because they aren't all selling Brokeback Mountain.
That doesn't make them homophobic, that makes them slow to respond to a changing social norm. Also, sexual orientation is a nationally protected harassment clause so if he is being harassed he needs to contact the national offices of Wal-Mart. Likely he signed an arbitration clause so he will have to go through that first before any legal judgement can be brought.
Instead of being a typical gay person and whining and crying because things are unfair maybe he should try to change things, eh?
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Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:09 pm |
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getluv
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Mike seriously that was classic movie of the week stuff.
But seriously, hasn't your friends heard of anti-discrimination laws. If he has a big problem with it, why doesn't he fulfill the American dream and sue them.
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Rev
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their advertising the movie as best picture  in commericals for dvd.
like it won that award.
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Rod
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revolutions wrote: their advertising the movie as best picture  in commericals for dvd. like it won that award.
it won many best picture awards.
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