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andaroo1
Lord of filth
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:47 pm Posts: 9566
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I would agree with that 100%.
The "Honeymoon" is over. Lord of the Flies is coming soon.
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:47 pm |
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Anonymous
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Did anyone post that Locke was reading the famous short story An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge?
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:37 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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By the way, I don't believe Gale is an Other. I'm not 100% certain of that, I know he might be, but I don't think he is. He might be lying, his name sounds fake as others have said because of the Oz connection and he seemed to falter on a question about his wife dying. But if lying made you an other or even just evil in general, then all the main characters would be.
So you think, Archie! What is there though that implies he might not be! Well there's three things: 1) He mentioned what the top of his balloons looks like in a very specific way, which I bet they find out in the wilderness in a few weeks and recognize. 2) He mentioned how his wife died of a strange disease, I don't think an Other would be talking about how strange the island is and 3) They clearly want us to think he's an Other, which makes it more likely he's not. Remember the guy Ana Lucia put in the pit? He seemed like one too to most of us up until he wasn't one.
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:38 pm |
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Plot
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 2987 Location: Free Country, USA
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Yes, the Lostaways are "sliding back" to their old characterizations, but this is a good thing for them. Remember that Goodwin told Ana Lucia that the Others were taking all of the "good" people. I'm sure this idea will come into play, as the Lostaways eventually realize that the Others are not taking them because they have not redeemed themselves (perhaps the Others will directly tell them this). I think it would be a very cool direction for the show, because everyone would essentially be bad guys.
As for Henry Gale, some people on other forums were quick to point that if Henry Gale was an Other, he would have been on the island for more than the 4 months that he claimed to have been stranded. Sayid should have asked him a current events question that someone who had spent years away from civilization could not have answered; maybe something about the U.S. presidential election or the war in Iraq.
_________________ "How you uh, how you comin' on that novel you're working on? Huh? Gotta a big, uh, big stack of papers there? Gotta, gotta nice litte story you're working on there? Your big novel you've been working on for 3 years? Got a, got a compelling protaganist? Yeah? Gotta obstacle for him to overcome? Working on, working on that for quite some time?"
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:41 pm |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:47 pm Posts: 9566
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I'm pretty much convinced that Gale is an Other. That little look he gave Sayid as the door was closing at the end of the episode was all I needed in that moment.
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:30 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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Plot wrote: As for Henry Gale, some people on other forums were quick to point that if Henry Gale was an Other, he would have been on the island for more than the 4 months that he claimed to have been stranded. Sayid should have asked him a current events question that someone who had spent years away from civilization could not have answered; maybe something about the U.S. presidential election or the war in Iraq.
The whole show, the writers have been kind of against giving any hints as to when the plane actually crashed. It's kind of assumed it was in September 2004, when the show started, but there's been few mentions of real life events, apart from the Gulf War.
_________________Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. 
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:32 pm |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:47 pm Posts: 9566
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There's a difference (maybe) between the time when the plane took off and it crashed :o
Sayid's stories seem to confirm the general date. And Hurley has the Damien Rice CD which was released in June 2003. 
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:40 pm |
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KentuckySax
Speed Racer
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:09 am Posts: 114 Location: Lexington, KY / Milwauke, WI
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Plot wrote: As for Henry Gale, some people on other forums were quick to point that if Henry Gale was an Other, he would have been on the island for more than the 4 months that he claimed to have been stranded. Sayid should have asked him a current events question that someone who had spent years away from civilization could not have answered; maybe something about the U.S. presidential election or the war in Iraq.
The other's do have a somewhat well-maintained boat.
Who's to say they aren't on the island by free will, they could have communications to the outside world for all we know.
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Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:17 pm |
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andaroo1
Lord of filth
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:47 pm Posts: 9566
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A bump for Claire.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:46 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Speaking of Claire, so I'm watching my new Lost season 1 dvd set and I notice that her first episode title Raised by Another, could also be read as Raised by An Other, and we all know how they love to do plays on words in the titles.
That's probably been said before on one of the "Takes it way too seriously" lost sites.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:00 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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That was pretty funny where the guy was listening through the door.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:16 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Woot, now that was an interesting choice of doctor.
I'm having a one man commentary. How Mr. X of me.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:21 pm |
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KentuckySax
Speed Racer
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:09 am Posts: 114 Location: Lexington, KY / Milwauke, WI
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Archie Gates wrote: Woot, now that was an interesting choice of doctor.
I'm having a one man commentary. How Mr. X of me.
I feel special I got that...
OMG to the max.
Was the song being played by the craddle a Stephen Lynch song "Gynocology"
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:23 pm |
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MGKC
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:42 pm Posts: 11808 Location: Kansas City, Kansas
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WOW! There wasn't ANY info saying Ethan was going to be back! He was one of my favorite characters, thought we'd seen no more of him. This episode's awesome so far.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:32 pm |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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I missed the opening. What exactly happened?
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:30 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Great episode! And the previews looks awesome, as well.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:37 pm |
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MGKC
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Positive Jon wrote: I missed the opening. What exactly happened?
Umm... nothing really. The first segment didn't have anything memorable, just Rosseau meeting Claire and telling her that the baby's rashes were the virus. I don't really remember the beginning, so it must not have been that important.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:45 pm |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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MG Casey wrote: Positive Jon wrote: I missed the opening. What exactly happened? Umm... nothing really. The first segment didn't have anything memorable, just Rosseau meeting Claire and telling her that the baby's rashes were the virus. I don't really remember the beginning, so it must not have been that important.
Okay. It sounded like she had a flashback at the beginning.
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:52 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:09 pm Posts: 6480 Location: Columbus, Ohio
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Positive Jon wrote: MG Casey wrote: Positive Jon wrote: I missed the opening. What exactly happened? Umm... nothing really. The first segment didn't have anything memorable, just Rosseau meeting Claire and telling her that the baby's rashes were the virus. I don't really remember the beginning, so it must not have been that important. Okay. It sounded like she had a flashback at the beginning.
She did, but I think it was bits and pieces of the ones we saw later.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:00 am |
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KentuckySax
Speed Racer
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:09 am Posts: 114 Location: Lexington, KY / Milwauke, WI
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Chris wrote: Positive Jon wrote: MG Casey wrote: Positive Jon wrote: I missed the opening. What exactly happened? Umm... nothing really. The first segment didn't have anything memorable, just Rosseau meeting Claire and telling her that the baby's rashes were the virus. I don't really remember the beginning, so it must not have been that important. Okay. It sounded like she had a flashback at the beginning. She did, but I think it was bits and pieces of the ones we saw later.
It was I'm pretty sure.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:08 am |
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MGKC
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The only thing I didn't like about this episode was the inconsistency about what to do with Henry Gale. Jack was totally against holding him there until he and Locke miraculously swapped positions on the matter.
While Claire was explaining about Rosseau's daughter, Kate obviously remembered hearing the name Alex when she was captured.
Ethan + Claire = last thing I ever expected. They were going to cut her open!! Plus the nursery mobile song was "Catch a Falling Star", the one song Claire requested the adoption parents to know.
Ethan though was lying the whole time in my opinion. He was trying to pretend to be good, but the part about Charlie is what finally convinced me. Silly Dr. Ethan and his hanging techniques.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:09 am |
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KentuckySax
Speed Racer
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:09 am Posts: 114 Location: Lexington, KY / Milwauke, WI
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MG Casey wrote: The only thing I didn't like about this episode was the inconsistency about what to do with Henry Gale. Jack was totally against holding him there until he and Locke miraculously swapped positions on the matter.
While Claire was explaining about Rosseau's daughter, Kate obviously remembered hearing the name Alex when she was captured.
Ethan + Claire = last thing I ever expected. They were going to cut her open!! Plus the nursery mobile song was "Catch a Falling Star", the one song Claire requested the adoption parents to know.
Ethan though was lying the whole time in my opinion. He was trying to pretend to be good, but the part about Charlie is what finally convinced me. Silly Dr. Ethan and his hanging techniques.
Damn it really sounds like that Stephen Lynch song, even when I replay it and do it in unison
(Highlight) Anyway here's my lost theory: I'm starting to think that the 'Others' aren't really the bad guys. Notice everyone they take are the characters considered innocent or who haven't been terrible/corrupted. Also note that almost all the people who are on the island are kind of evil or bad back in the real world. Also what that one guy said, "What am I supposed to tell him, makes me think there's a person orchestrating the whole island, maybe criminals and evil-doers get sent there to kill each other off or learn to change their ways, and Hurley got stuck there so they could steal the money to fund the whole project, I have a more drawn out explanation but I have an 8 am interview maybe tomorro.w
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:16 am |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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MG Casey wrote: The only thing I didn't like about this episode was the inconsistency about what to do with Henry Gale. Jack was totally against holding him there until he and Locke miraculously swapped positions on the matter.
I noticed that too and agree. All in all it was very good and I get the sense they are consciously trying to get it back on track the last few episodes. Who knows why or how but if I had to speculate, maybe MI:3 wrapped shooting and Abrams is paying more attention?
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:23 am |
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MGKC
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Archie Gates wrote: MG Casey wrote: The only thing I didn't like about this episode was the inconsistency about what to do with Henry Gale. Jack was totally against holding him there until he and Locke miraculously swapped positions on the matter. I noticed that too and agree. All in all it was very good and I get the sense they are consciously trying to get it back on track the last few episodes. Who knows why or how but if I had to speculate, maybe MI:3 wrapped shooting and Abrams is paying more attention?
It feels like these final 8 or 9 episodes are almost fully planned out now, so they can concentrate on each one even more to make them better. They also probably have a lot of information they want to pack in and plot lines to solve before the end of season two.
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:26 am |
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Plot
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:40 pm Posts: 2987 Location: Free Country, USA
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Am i the only one who noticed the importance of the stuff Kate found in the locker? Tattered clothes, gray hair, "Dharma theatrical glue"... coupled with the fact that we see a clean shaven M.C. Gainey a mere two weeks before he sports a full beard and kidnaps Walt, the Others are clearly faking their dirty,disheveled appearance. That means the Dharma initiative is still up and running. Sweet.
_________________ "How you uh, how you comin' on that novel you're working on? Huh? Gotta a big, uh, big stack of papers there? Gotta, gotta nice litte story you're working on there? Your big novel you've been working on for 3 years? Got a, got a compelling protaganist? Yeah? Gotta obstacle for him to overcome? Working on, working on that for quite some time?"
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:28 am |
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