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We could have a 2001 like year opening wise, with the top 10 openers getting completely revamped. It's quite possible that with the addition of a $100 m opener this year (say POTC 2), that by the end of 2007, the top 10 openers of all time would all be $100 m + openers (from the current 4). Spiderman 3, Shrek 3, and HP5 seem like they have strong chances at $100 m, to bring the total up to 8, and IJ4/Rush Hour 3/POTC 3/Narnia/other could bring us to 10.


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I dont know about Rush Hour 3 if it would make 200 million. Jackie is in dire need of a hit and Tucker has been absent for so long, maybe if X-3 is successful that they will use Ratner's name to draw in people. I do hope they find a decent villian for the film like the rumored Stephen Segal one.


The Rush Hour films have just been so well received. The same arguments came up with Rush Hour 2, with Tucker literally doing nothing in between. The 2nd one opened to $67.4 m, and had a multiplier of 3.36 ($226 m total), which is very good considering the huge opening right in the summer. Adjusted for inflation, with say 3% increases for 2006, and 2007, Rush Hour 2 would adjust to $80.85 m/$271.3 m. It might have been a while, so some people forget, but with a whole bunch of other films expected to make it to the top 3 spots for the summer of 2001, Rush Hour 2 made it to the runner up spot, beating Mummy2, PH, Jurassic Park III, Planet of the Apes, Tomb Raider, and AI. People didn't expect Rush Hour 2 at all to do as well as it did, beating some of those films. But the franchise is very, very well liked by audiences.


You could be right although it would of been more of a lock to hit 200 million if it was released a year or two years ago. They pretty much waited too long to do a sequel and they should of struck while the iron is still hot. I guess it really depends if they are sticking to their rumored script of shooting in 6 countries and having Seagal as a villian


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Since F4 and Transformers are opening in the same weekend, which of the two movies do people anticipate the most since they are directed by two hack directors?


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Why is everyone going low on Fantastic Four 2? If it actually looks good and the Silver Surfer/Galactus rumors are true, I'd say it has a good chance for an X2-sized increase (I also think that Transformers should move to the following weekend)....


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Outatime wrote:
Why is everyone going low on Fantastic Four 2? If it actually looks good and the Silver Surfer/Galactus rumors are true, I'd say it has a good chance for an X2-sized increase (I also think that Transformers should move to the following weekend)....


Low grade at imdb, Im not going to use the yahoo reviews because that thing was glitched and it started out with a 1400 reviews at B+ because of some hack in the system before the movie came out. Also I think now the novelty of introducing the heros is out, it may perform more like a Charlie's Angels 2 as opposed to X-2


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I think F4 will get killed almost the same way Tombraider 2 and Charlie's Angels 2 did in 2003 when it tried to compete against a potential big year of 2003 with The Hulk,T2,Matrix Reloaded, and X2 which were all considered potential movies that may hit 200 million back then. Except this time you can sub those movies I mentioned with Indiana Jones, Spiderman, Pirates of the Carrabean instead


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The Dark Shape wrote:
Can we officially label DP07 the king of high predictions?


Its actaully posible to top BJ :unsure:

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Battle Angel could be in the top 5 for the year, I expect a mammoth 250m+ total.

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I'm not saying it will happen, but with the above mentioned inflation formula, Spiderman 1 would adjust to a $134 m opening weekend. If Spiderman 3 were somehow able to pull the same number of people to the film as during the first week of May in 2007, that would just be a amazing. And Shrek 3, if it follows Shrek 2's pattern of opening and total, would do $118 m/$482 m. And HP5, likely opening in the HP3 spot, with the same admissions as HP3 would do $102 m/$273 m.

And if IJ4 somehow makes it to 2007, it'll be even bigger. Adjusted for inflation, the IJ films have done:

IJ1 $592 m (It did $209 m in 1981, and added $33 m in 1982 and 1983, but I just used the 1981 $ for the IJ total for convenience, so this is likely slightly lower.

IJ2 $363.5 m

IJ3 $337.3 m

LOTR, SW 4-6, SW 1-3, and IJ are the only trilogies in film history to have all three films adjust to $300 m +. It will be a huge event, and with the biggest people in Hollywood involved. It will have been 18 years since #3, but I think with Ford, when he's in the right role, still can click with young audiences (Air - 1997, WLB - 2000). He's one of those Sean Connery like actors which as they age are still cool forever. :biggrin: He just has been choosing lame films for a while. Yes, he might be too old, but I think people realize that, but there is something just so fun about this franchise. IJ 1 to this day remains the 4th most watched film of the past 25 years. SW6, ET, and Titanic lay ahead of it. All 3 films are in the top 90 films ever (adjusted for inflation). I think alot of people here underplay IJ because it was in its heyday before some were born, but older audiences and middle aged people will see this in droves. I also don't doubt the type of action sequences this might have with today's technology, to pull in audiences. If it comes out in 2007 or 2008, it should set itself either the weekend before Memorial Weekend, first week of May, Indep Day, Thanksgiving, or pre Christmas. This could be a huge, huge movie.


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I think the most interesting thing is what date should Indy 4 be releaesed.

If its in 07 - it will have to forsake May. It can take a mid June slot if HP5 is delayed till Nov. If not - a late July slot would be perfect or beginning of November or in the LOTR pre Christmas slot.

I think one of F4 or Transformers should move back a week. There is no need for both to open the same weekend. F4 will most likely make about $140m or so. Transformers has potential for over $200 or $250m if the CGI is good. People are underestimating how popular the Transofrmers are.

Transformers and Used Guys will be the dominant non sequel films of the summer.

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BJ wrote:
Battle Angel could be in the top 5 for the year, I expect a mammoth 250m+ total.
Battle Angel is the biggest toss up of the year, thats for sure. It could end up being a huge hit or a big dud. Hopefully it ends up being on of the best movies of 07', it has alot of potential.

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MadGez wrote:

I think one of F4 or Transformers should move back a week. There is no need for both to open the same weekend. F4 will most likely make about $140m or so. Transformers has potential for over $200 or $250m if the CGI is good. People are underestimating how popular the Transofrmers are.

Transformers and Used Guys will be the dominant non sequel films of the summer.
Transformers isnt a big thing anymore, not that it wont do well though. It should be big with the kids.

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Killuminati510 wrote:
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I think one of F4 or Transformers should move back a week. There is no need for both to open the same weekend. F4 will most likely make about $140m or so. Transformers has potential for over $200 or $250m if the CGI is good. People are underestimating how popular the Transofrmers are.

Transformers and Used Guys will be the dominant non sequel films of the summer.
Transformers isnt a big thing anymore, not that it wont do well though. It should be big with the kids.


Thats exactly why I think it will be big. The anticipation from those of us who grew up in the 80s is intense. I know friends who arent really movie buffs who cant wait to see it. Plus add in the new generation of kids and teens and it should be a huge hit - epecially if done right.

As for Battle Angel - thats one of my most anticipated. Cameron's first feature film in a decade - hopefully its ground breaking.

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Battle Angel and Transformers I think are the two biggest tossups. I think its best to reserve judgement until the CGI hits some teasers. They both have the potential to make 200 million each or become duds with under 100 million. If Transformers captures the spirit and the wow factor back in 1984, 200 million is assured


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National Treasure 2 won't make 100 million opening. People liked it, but not THAT much. This isn't The Matrix or anything. I'd say Meet the Parents had a lot better WOM and fanbase than NT, and that without the Christmas Eve drop probably would've opened to about 55 million. I doubt Treasure 2 can double that.

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Looks like 2007 is really shaping up for Disney:

Ratouille $300 m
POTC 3 $275 m
Narnia $250 m

That's $800 m + right there.

It looks like the year could be Paramount vs Disney. Paramount will have Shrek 3, Transformers, and what could be IJ4.


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ya if id4 opens in narnia spot...not only could get a 100 million opening, but holiday legs would proel this well over 400.


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Indy 4 wont be put for 2007 - more likely 2008 as Speilberg wont be shooting any films in 2006.

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07 is going to flat out OWN :biggrin: Spidey, Pirates, Potter 5, Narnia, Shrek, Ratouille, Transformers, RH3, NT2, Battle Angel, and the lsit of BO hits goes on its like digging into a bottomless hole of nothing but gold.

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i dont get why people think that if IJ4 ever happens it will make so much money, no one cares anymore. people would find the whole thing rather laughable, if IJ4 did somehow magically manage a 2007 release, then Harrison Ford would be 65 when it comes out. It would be like Murder, She Wrote or something. Also, it's not like Ford is a big draw anymore. Just cause the IJ movies were popular in the 80's, 20 years ago, doesnt translate to 400mil today. It translates to a complete lack of interest.

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Hoban Washburne wrote:
i dont get why people think that if IJ4 ever happens it will make so much money, no one cares anymore. people would find the whole thing rather laughable, if IJ4 did somehow magically manage a 2007 release, then Harrison Ford would be 65 when it comes out. It would be like Murder, She Wrote or something. Also, it's not like Ford is a big draw anymore. Just cause the IJ movies were popular in the 80's, 20 years ago, doesnt translate to 400mil today. It translates to a complete lack of interest.


For 2003, IJ box set I believe was #5 on DVD sales for the year for all DVD's. There is still quite a bit of interest for this film.


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A lot of smaller hits should helps things as well.

RESIDENT EVIL: EXTINCTION, HOSTEL 2 and SAW IV.


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i don't doubt that IJ has fans, they bought the box set in droves, but i dont seem getting excited over another movie in the franchise. It would be 20yrs in between movies, Ford is no longer a draw, Ford will be a senior citizen, and it's not like the first 3 ended in a way that demands another. If/when a fourth is made, it would be completely uncalled for and pure fluff. I am not a fan of SW by any means, but at least there was all that talk of things past etc. IJ's fans from the 80's would be all grown up now, and i doubt they are clamoring for more. I'm not saying IJ4 would have a 5mil opening and finish with 9mil, just that if it does happen it won't make anywhere near 400mil, or 300mil. MAYBE 150mil, maybe.

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Lets add the CGI Teenage Mutant Turtles movie in 2007. Looks like a March release. I think its good for $70m.

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