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http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4935

What a spin job.


Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:50 am
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=4935

What a spin job.


Hehe. That's great. I especially love this: "MASTERS OF HORROR is the ultimate director-driven project. "Imprint" is the only one from the thirteen episodes produced that will not air. "Like all the films in this groundbreaking series," says executive producer John W. Hyde, 'Imprint' was made with no restrictions whatsoever on the filmmaker and we are honored to be able to bring Miike's unadulterated vision to the fans."

BS. What do you call forcing the episode onto DVD because even after your "suggested" cuts it's still not what you want? How is that not forcing the director's hand?


Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:19 pm
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Incident On And Off A Mountain Road - B
Dreams In The Witch House - C+
Dance Of The Dead - C
Jenifer - B-
Chocolate - D+
Homecoming - B
Deer Woman - B
Cigarette Burns - B
Fair Haired Child - B-
Sick Girl - B+
Pick Me Up - C+

Decent episode tonight. Cohen is a good director with a nice visual flair, but the story didn't have enough "meat" to last an hour. That's been a problem with most of the episodes, actually. I wanted to know what the "Terrible Thing" was, too. I was expecting that to have some sort of payoff.


Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:24 am
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Did anyone else catch it last night? Or did everyone just DVR it? :tongue:


Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:02 pm
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DVR for me. I'm actually 3 eps behind.

Personally, and Im a pretty big old school horror fan, I would call season 1 mixed at best. Not really horrifying, not really masterful. But some great imagery and satire at times.


Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:29 pm
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loyalfromlondon wrote:
DVR for me. I'm actually 3 eps behind.

Personally, and Im a pretty big old school horror fan, I would call season 1 mixed at best. Not really horrifying, not really masterful. But some great imagery and satire at times.


I completey agree. Here's hoping season two can pick things up.


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To me it seems like the comedic episodes are better than the scary ones. My favorite ones were Sick Girl, Homecoming and Deer Girl


Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:36 pm
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El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote:
To me it seems like the comedic episodes are better than the scary ones. My favorite ones were Sick Girl, Homecoming and Deer Girl


I agree 100%. Those three have been the best episodes so far.

I find it interesting that one of the directors everyone was doubting, Lucky McKee, made arguably the best episode. I've been saying it ever since May came out, he's gonna be big.


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I am wondering why Craven is not directing an episode and why Corman ended up not directing his episode.

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Does anyone know the name of the classical piece played in Fair Haired Child during the van scene?


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1. Incident On and Off a Mountain Road - C
2. Dreams in the Witch House - D+
3. Dance of the Dead - F
4. Jenifer - C-
5. Chocolate - A
6. Homecoming - A+
7. Deer Woman - C+
8. Cigarette Burns - C+
9. Fair Haired Child - C (great concept poor execution)
10. Sick Girl - B- (wild stuff and the big bug attack)
11. Pick Me Up - B (liked the twist ending, even though it was predictable)


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1. Incident On and Off a Mountain Road - C+/B-
2. Dreams in the Witch House - B+
3. Dance of the Dead - D
4. Jenifer - B+/A-
5. Chocalate - C+
6. Homecoming - A
7. Deer Woman - A-
8. Cigarette Burns - B
9. Fair Haired Child - B-
10. Sick Girl - A (hilarious episode especially the ending)
11. Pick Me Up - B (I was pretty sure the episode was done by the guy who did the "Hitcher")


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Showtime Renews "Masters of Horror"

So, Masters of Horror will get a second season this fall.

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Showtime Renews "Masters of Horror"

So, Masters of Horror will get a second season this fall.


Expected, but still nice to hear. Now let's just hope the episodes are better this time around.


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I hope they dont use the same directors as the first season though. Its not as if they arent any good but I want to see it diversify more like maybe having Rob Zombie direct one episode and Clive Barker do another


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I hope they dont use the same directors as the first season though. Its not as if they arent any good but I want to see it diversify more like maybe having Rob Zombie direct one episode and Clive Barker do another


Two of the rumored names have been Rob Zombie and Guillermo del Toro, so hopefully those will both pan out. I have a feeling they would both make incredible episodes, especially Zombie. Barker doesn't really direct anymore, so I couldn't imagine him doing an episode. I have heard he will be writing one, though.


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I hope the first season will be out here ASAP...

So, to my previous question...any idea why Corman got out of the project?

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Tomorrow night's ep sounds fun:

When Ernest Haeckel seeks shelter from the wilderness in a secluded cabin in the New England countryside, he is given one explicit instruction: No matter what he hears, he cannot go outside. As the cries of an unseen baby intermix with horrifying guttural moans, Haeckel disobeys his host and becomes embroiled in an orgy of the undead. Based on Clive Barker’s short story, HAECKEL’S TALE is a sexually charged campfire story with a terrifying twist.


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Ohhh... I didn't see this thread. Thanks Roid. Here's my grades...

Incident On And Off A Mountain Road - B
Dreams In The Witch House - C+
Dance Of The Dead - C
Jenifer - B-
Chocolate - D+
Homecoming - B
Deer Woman - B
Cigarette Burns - B
Fair Haired Child - B-
Sick Girl - B+

Like I said, pretty disappointing thus far. I'm shocked to see all the praise for Chocolate here. I'm not sure how that could even be considered horror. Someone mentioned it being like an Outer Limits episode... I completely agree, and I hated Outer Limits. Sick Girl has been the best thus far. Great direction, good screenplay, good acting, some great gore, and a nice little twist ending. Fair Haired Child was absolutely fantastic for about forty minutes (even though the creature design was a total Rubber Johnny ripoff), but the ending was a joke. In fact, that kind of seems to be a theme (bad endings). Deer Woman and Cigarette Burns both suffered from that.

I've seen some talk about Miike's episode. Apparently it's been pulled:

"The New York Times writes:

Showtime cable network says that the broadcast of "Imprint," the penultimate episode of its 13-part anthology series "Masters of Horror," has been cancelled. Through a spokesman, the network declined further comment.

Originally scheduled to have its premiere on Jan. 27, "Imprint," directed by the renegade Japanese filmmaker Takashi Miike, will be replaced by "Haeckel's Tale," an adaptation of a short story by Clive Barker directed by John McNaughton ("Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer"). All references to "Imprint" were removed from the Showtime Web site, though a trailer for the episode remains on mastersofhorror.net, the site sponsored by the series's production company, IDT Entertainment.

The concept behind "Masters of Horror" was to give carte blanche to a group of respected horror film directors, both veterans like John Carpenter, Joe Dante and John Landis and newcomers like Lucky McKee ("May") and William Malone ("Fear Dot Com"). The filmmakers would be given their choice of material and freedom from corporate censorship in exchange for creating their work on a tight budget and short schedule.

Mr. Miike, 45, is a deliberately and spectacularly transgressive director whose work is lionized by a substantial share of the young generation of Internet critics and horror film fans, while routinely rejected as repulsively sadistic by much of the mainstream media. To date, his most notorious film has been "Audition" (2000), a cautionary tale about a middle-aged man who holds a fake audition for a movie role to search for a bride, only to be caught in his own game of cruelty when one of the candidates, a seemingly demure young woman, turns the tables on him and subjects him to a prolonged session of graphic torture.

"Imprint" may go even further, and clearly represents something more than Showtime bargained for. "I think it's amazing, but it's even hard for me to watch," said Mick Garris, the creator and executive producer of the series. "It's definitely the most disturbing film I've ever seen." It will now be released directly to the DVD market through IDT's home video subsidiary, Anchor Bay Entertainment, along with the rest of the episodes in the series. No date has been announced.

Mr. Miike, who speaks no English and is rushing to complete his latest theatrical feature, "Waru: Final," for release in Japan on Feb. 25, was not available for comment.

"Imprint," which has a much more polished look than most of Mr. Miike's work, plays like an infernal variation on "Memoirs of a Geisha." In mid-19th-century Japan, an American journalist (the genre stalwart Billy Drago) goes in search of the prostitute he has fallen in love with but was forced to abandon.

The American's quest leads him to a mysterious island zoned exclusively for dimly lighted brothels, where one procurer, a syphilitic midget, introduces him to a relatively sympathetic prostitute (Youki Kudoh, who also appears in "Memoirs of a Geisha"). Hideously deformed, the right side of her face pulled into a permanent rictus, the nameless woman tells the American the terrible story of what happened to his lover, throwing in at no extra charge the story of her own hideous childhood as the daughter of impoverished outcasts.

As the woman's story continues, her revelations, scrupulously visualized, become more and more outlandish, and her descriptions of the violence done to the missing prostitute, who was suspected of stealing a ring from the brothel's madam, become more cruelly imaginative and difficult to stomach. But the most shocking imagery is yet to come, as the nameless woman describes her collaboration in her mother's work as an abortionist.


"Imprint" was filmed in Japan under the aegis of Mr. Miike's regular production company, rather than in Vancouver, where the series is based and most of its other episodes were shot. "Definitely, at the script stage we made comments about the aborted fetuses," Mr. Garris said. "We made it clear that we were going on American pay cable television, and even though there wasn't as much control over content, there still were concerns. And then when we got the first cut, it was very, very strong stuff, and we made some suggestions on what might help before we showed it to Showtime. The Japanese made the changes they were comfortable with, and eventually we arrived at a film that he was happy with and we're all happy with. But Showtime felt it was not something they were comfortable putting out on the airwaves."

"Imprint," Mr. Garris suggested, was not the sort of film that could be trimmed a bit here and there to make it more acceptable. "It is what it is," he said.

"It really was, let's try and not hack this up," Mr. Garris concluded. "Let's all just agree to release it in its complete form on the DVD, and hopefully its audience will be able to find it that way."


"But the most shocking imagery is yet to come, as the nameless woman describes her collaboration in her mother's work as an abortionist"


Looks like their censorship is politically motivated. Are they afraid of upsetting groups like NOW and NARAL?? What's the deal?


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STROKER ACE wrote:
makeshift wrote:
Ohhh... I didn't see this thread. Thanks Roid. Here's my grades...

Incident On And Off A Mountain Road - B
Dreams In The Witch House - C+
Dance Of The Dead - C
Jenifer - B-
Chocolate - D+
Homecoming - B
Deer Woman - B
Cigarette Burns - B
Fair Haired Child - B-
Sick Girl - B+

Like I said, pretty disappointing thus far. I'm shocked to see all the praise for Chocolate here. I'm not sure how that could even be considered horror. Someone mentioned it being like an Outer Limits episode... I completely agree, and I hated Outer Limits. Sick Girl has been the best thus far. Great direction, good screenplay, good acting, some great gore, and a nice little twist ending. Fair Haired Child was absolutely fantastic for about forty minutes (even though the creature design was a total Rubber Johnny ripoff), but the ending was a joke. In fact, that kind of seems to be a theme (bad endings). Deer Woman and Cigarette Burns both suffered from that.

I've seen some talk about Miike's episode. Apparently it's been pulled:

"The New York Times writes:

Showtime cable network says that the broadcast of "Imprint," the penultimate episode of its 13-part anthology series "Masters of Horror," has been cancelled. Through a spokesman, the network declined further comment.

Originally scheduled to have its premiere on Jan. 27, "Imprint," directed by the renegade Japanese filmmaker Takashi Miike, will be replaced by "Haeckel's Tale," an adaptation of a short story by Clive Barker directed by John McNaughton ("Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer"). All references to "Imprint" were removed from the Showtime Web site, though a trailer for the episode remains on mastersofhorror.net, the site sponsored by the series's production company, IDT Entertainment.

The concept behind "Masters of Horror" was to give carte blanche to a group of respected horror film directors, both veterans like John Carpenter, Joe Dante and John Landis and newcomers like Lucky McKee ("May") and William Malone ("Fear Dot Com"). The filmmakers would be given their choice of material and freedom from corporate censorship in exchange for creating their work on a tight budget and short schedule.

Mr. Miike, 45, is a deliberately and spectacularly transgressive director whose work is lionized by a substantial share of the young generation of Internet critics and horror film fans, while routinely rejected as repulsively sadistic by much of the mainstream media. To date, his most notorious film has been "Audition" (2000), a cautionary tale about a middle-aged man who holds a fake audition for a movie role to search for a bride, only to be caught in his own game of cruelty when one of the candidates, a seemingly demure young woman, turns the tables on him and subjects him to a prolonged session of graphic torture.

"Imprint" may go even further, and clearly represents something more than Showtime bargained for. "I think it's amazing, but it's even hard for me to watch," said Mick Garris, the creator and executive producer of the series. "It's definitely the most disturbing film I've ever seen." It will now be released directly to the DVD market through IDT's home video subsidiary, Anchor Bay Entertainment, along with the rest of the episodes in the series. No date has been announced.

Mr. Miike, who speaks no English and is rushing to complete his latest theatrical feature, "Waru: Final," for release in Japan on Feb. 25, was not available for comment.

"Imprint," which has a much more polished look than most of Mr. Miike's work, plays like an infernal variation on "Memoirs of a Geisha." In mid-19th-century Japan, an American journalist (the genre stalwart Billy Drago) goes in search of the prostitute he has fallen in love with but was forced to abandon.

The American's quest leads him to a mysterious island zoned exclusively for dimly lighted brothels, where one procurer, a syphilitic midget, introduces him to a relatively sympathetic prostitute (Youki Kudoh, who also appears in "Memoirs of a Geisha"). Hideously deformed, the right side of her face pulled into a permanent rictus, the nameless woman tells the American the terrible story of what happened to his lover, throwing in at no extra charge the story of her own hideous childhood as the daughter of impoverished outcasts.

As the woman's story continues, her revelations, scrupulously visualized, become more and more outlandish, and her descriptions of the violence done to the missing prostitute, who was suspected of stealing a ring from the brothel's madam, become more cruelly imaginative and difficult to stomach. But the most shocking imagery is yet to come, as the nameless woman describes her collaboration in her mother's work as an abortionist.


"Imprint" was filmed in Japan under the aegis of Mr. Miike's regular production company, rather than in Vancouver, where the series is based and most of its other episodes were shot. "Definitely, at the script stage we made comments about the aborted fetuses," Mr. Garris said. "We made it clear that we were going on American pay cable television, and even though there wasn't as much control over content, there still were concerns. And then when we got the first cut, it was very, very strong stuff, and we made some suggestions on what might help before we showed it to Showtime. The Japanese made the changes they were comfortable with, and eventually we arrived at a film that he was happy with and we're all happy with. But Showtime felt it was not something they were comfortable putting out on the airwaves."

"Imprint," Mr. Garris suggested, was not the sort of film that could be trimmed a bit here and there to make it more acceptable. "It is what it is," he said.

"It really was, let's try and not hack this up," Mr. Garris concluded. "Let's all just agree to release it in its complete form on the DVD, and hopefully its audience will be able to find it that way."


"But the most shocking imagery is yet to come, as the nameless woman describes her collaboration in her mother's work as an abortionist"


Looks like their censorship is politically motivated. Are they afraid of upsetting groups like NOW and NARAL?? What's the deal?


Likely. I doubt the imagery is all that graphic or shocking. Just the mention of abortion will get most people to baulk.

New episode tonight. I'm not sure about the director (especially his standing as a "master of horror"), but the plot is interesting, and Clive Barker wrote it. Here's hoping.


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Finally watched "Sick Girl". Definitely my favorite episode so far. Combined the right amount of comedy, the right amount of blood 'n' shit, and the right amount of creepiness (bugs creep me out, so even the fakest looking bug ever creeped me out). And the added bonus of seeing two chicks make out, along with topless nudity. Even though the bug girl talked like a retarded Lilith from "Frasier" and "Cheers". When the other girl turned into the bug, I think that was really fucking creepy. It's very hard to scare me, and maybe that's the current state of horror that is to blame (the "Boogeyman"s of the horror genre are completely to blame), but just those bug eyes on the girl in the first attack on the old lady were enough to creep me out. The full bug transformation, being half-bug/half-human was so fucked up. I loved it.

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The series, however, is still wrestling with the horror and comedy. I find the episodes without humor are far too dark and too boring. The episodes with humor tend to be so outlandish, that it's too ridiculous to be scary. Even "Sick Girl" bordered with too much humor. Then you have "Deer Woman" and "Homecoming" which were far too fucked up in the humor/parody department to be taken seriously as horror, let alone a series from the so-called "masters" of horror.

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Haeckel's Tale was... interesting.

Zombie DP = hot.


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I'm all for zombie sex. Just has to be interesting zombie sex.

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Seriously, when I saw a zombie mount a girl from behind while she was riding another zombie, my jaw hit the floor.

This was the first episode I felt really pushed the envelope and used the freedom granted when working for a pay channel.

It still wasn't very good, though.


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