The 'Lost' Thread (Season 2)
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Dr. Lecter
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Just saw the last episode and it was hands down my favorite of the season so far (except for the brillaitn beginning of the first episode of the season). Great acting and the build-up to something big was more obvious this time around. It will not take many episodes from now on till we find out more about "The Others": As for the next episode, I hope it's not Shannon. Not because I think she's a good character (I think she's the worst one at the moment), but because kiling her would not be a surprise anymore and actually pretty weak since she won't be that missed anyway.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:58 am |
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Raffiki
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I didn't read any if the white texts but you guys made it so obvious wat you're talking about, so might as well comment on it....
I highly doubt they will kill off Shannon. No way they'll kill off brother and sister within 10 episodes! Plus, she keeps seeing Walt visions, so she has to stay to keep the insanity card going.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:57 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Well, let me see who they will NOT kill....
They won't kill off Kate because we still don't know what the was pursued for all the time. So she's out.
They won't kill Locke and I don't even think I need to explain why.
They won't kill off Hurley since he seems as the key to many things.
They won't kill off Claire since we still need to find out more about her baby.
They won't kill off Sawyer because they are well-aware that he's one of the most beloved characters on the show.
They probably won't kill off one of the tail section survivors because that is not so "exciting" as we don't eally care about them yet.
They won't kill off Michael till he finds his son and that will take a while, I suppose.
That leaves us with:
Jack
Shannon
Sayid
Charlie
Jin
Sun
Jack seems to be too major of a ahcracter and I feel that we don't know everything about him yet (despite thousands flashbacks), so I doubt it's him.
I think that Sun and Jin will have a happy reunion, so I would rule them out as well.
Sayid, Shannon and Charlie remain. I don't think there is anything important about them to be found out yet. Their stories are quite complete is seems. However, Sayid's actor was nominated for an Emmy and his character still needs to find that one girl he was looking for, so I don't think it'll be him.
Shannon and Charlie remain. One of them I suppose.
Or if they chicken out, one of the tail section survivors.
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I don't know... they were going to kill Jack off in the first episode, so... I think they're capable of anything. I just doubt it's going to be Shannon. She lost her step-brother, started a relationship with Sayid (which I recall someone mentioning was going to heat up soon? I think?), is left with Walt's dog, and has a more grown-up persona, as opposed to her teen persona in the first part of last season. I think it would be a mistake to off her so soon, as opposed to someone else.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:22 pm |
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Raffiki
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I don't know.... I think you guys are taking the comment too literally.
Even if you don't take it literally... "lost forever" does not directly mean death. It can mean many different things metaphorically or figuratively but even it doesn't, the literal translation does not necessarily insinuate a death.
Maybe one of them will leave the island? Maybe one of them will get the disease?
If they are indeed going to kill off someone it;s going to be one of the tail-end survivors and I think it might be Libby because she's not too important of a character at all but they have been using her somewhat alot compared to other tail end survivors (cept for Ana-Lucia and don't think Eko is from the plane...) and they could be trying to promote her as a character so it won't be totally weak if they kill off one of them that we don't know much about.
Ugh, I babble again!!
3 freakin WEEKS!!! 
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:43 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Raffiki wrote: I don't know.... I think you guys are taking the comment too literally. Even if you don't take it literally... "lost forever" does not directly mean death. It can mean many different things metaphorically or figuratively but even it doesn't, the literal translation does not necessarily insinuate a death. Maybe one of them will leave the island? Maybe one of them will get the disease? If they are indeed going to kill off someone it;s going to be one of the tail-end survivors and I think it might be Libby because she's not too important of a character at all but they have been using her somewhat alot compared to other tail end survivors (cept for Ana-Lucia and don't think Eko is from the plane...) and they could be trying to promote her as a character so it won't be totally weak if they kill off one of them that we don't know much about. Ugh, I babble again!! 3 freakin WEEKS!!! 
Doesn't matter what they meant since they have made clearly enough before that someone will die in the first half of the 2nd season, so sooner or later it will be someone.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:09 pm |
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Spoilers about who's *not* getting the axe
Ana-Lucia, Libby or Rose.
Michael Ausellio said so.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:21 pm |
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Shack
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Its pretty much down to:
Shannon, Sun, or Claire.
I just realized how little females there are on Lost. It seems kind've dumb to kill one, when you've only got like 4 main ones in your cast.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:27 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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They kinda used up their "Useless Castaways Getting the Axe" cards with Boone and Arzt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was an important character that got killed off. Like, uber important. JJ had it dead-set in his head to kill off the lead in the pilot episode, to shake things up, and I think he would want to do that eventually. Why not?
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:37 pm |
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Oh, and as for the episode, pretty much agree with most people. Fairly weak (not surprisingly, considering I found the first two Jin/Sun episodes weak). I thought everything with Echo and Jin was great (especially seeing the Others creeping along). Everything else was meh. And really... the ring plot was just filler, because we knew she'd find it, and we knew Locke would probably end up helping her. The backstory was okay. It only served to tell us how they met, and aside from the last minute when they actually met, everything else about the backstory was pointless.
Side comment: why does every other girl look fine and normal, while Libby looks like she ACTUALLY spent a month and a half on that island? Poor Cynthia... Maggie looked a bit dirty and frazzled for a while there, but besides that, every other girl seems like they just started their summer vacation.
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Shack
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Mr. X wrote: They kinda used up their "Useless Castaways Getting the Axe" cards with Boone and Arzt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was an important character that got killed off. Like, uber important. JJ had it dead-set in his head to kill off the lead in the pilot episode, to shake things up, and I think he would want to do that eventually. Why not?
That would mean...Kate? Because shes the only realll important female there at the moment, the rest are on Boone level(though in time I think Shannon could rise up). That'd be an ultra-shocker, but it would work.
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Mr. X wrote: I don't know... they were going to kill Jack off in the first episode, so... I think they're capable of anything. I just doubt it's going to be Shannon. She lost her step-brother, started a relationship with Sayid (which I recall someone mentioning was going to heat up soon? I think?), is left with Walt's dog, and has a more grown-up persona, as opposed to her teen persona in the first part of last season. I think it would be a mistake to off her so soon, as opposed to someone else. But they were going to kill of Jack because I think they said Michael Keaton was going to play him, and he was interested in just the guest star, not a spot on the show. And that it wouldn't be fair to kill of a character the audience has come to rely on. I don't think they'll kill Jack. He's pretty much the main male character, and if he is to die, it'll be much later on. Not this season, for sure. Especially since they haven't yet begun to play out the Kate-Jack-Ana-Lucia love triangle. Quote: I don't know.... I think you guys are taking the comment too literally.
Even if you don't take it literally... "lost forever" does not directly mean death. It can mean many different things metaphorically or figuratively but even it doesn't, the literal translation does not necessarily insinuate a death.
Maybe one of them will leave the island? Maybe one of them will get the disease?
If they are indeed going to kill off someone it;s going to be one of the tail-end survivors and I think it might be Libby because she's not too important of a character at all but they have been using her somewhat alot compared to other tail end survivors (cept for Ana-Lucia and don't think Eko is from the plane...) and they could be trying to promote her as a character so it won't be totally weak if they kill off one of them that we don't know much about. Ugh, I babble again!!
3 freakin WEEKS!!!
I could be mistaken, but I believe Damon Lindelof or one of the people associated with the show have already confirmed that a cast member is dying and that it was a series regular. The people from the tail end aren't series regulars.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:54 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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Shack wrote: Mr. X wrote: They kinda used up their "Useless Castaways Getting the Axe" cards with Boone and Arzt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was an important character that got killed off. Like, uber important. JJ had it dead-set in his head to kill off the lead in the pilot episode, to shake things up, and I think he would want to do that eventually. Why not? That would mean...Kate? Because shes the only realll important female there at the moment, the rest are on Boone level(though in time I think Shannon could rise up). That'd be an ultra-shocker, but it would work.
Or the "female" rumor is false, and was started by someone within "Lost", just to throw us all off. I mean... unless I see it, I don't really believe it's definitely a girl.
Theory o'mine: Maybe Claire gets the boot. I think I've seen Charlie take care of the baby more than she has, so maybe she'll get offed and Charlie will have to take care of the baby. Of course, you know... after a grieving period, consisting of sad guitar-playing and some heroin.
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Shack
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Mr. X wrote: Shack wrote: Mr. X wrote: They kinda used up their "Useless Castaways Getting the Axe" cards with Boone and Arzt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was an important character that got killed off. Like, uber important. JJ had it dead-set in his head to kill off the lead in the pilot episode, to shake things up, and I think he would want to do that eventually. Why not? That would mean...Kate? Because shes the only realll important female there at the moment, the rest are on Boone level(though in time I think Shannon could rise up). That'd be an ultra-shocker, but it would work. Or the "female" rumor is false, and was started by someone within "Lost", just to throw us all off. I mean... unless I see it, I don't really believe it's definitely a girl. Theory o'mine: Maybe Claire gets the boot. I think I've seen Charlie take care of the baby more than she has, so maybe she'll get offed and Charlie will have to take care of the baby. Of course, you know... after a grieving period, consisting of sad guitar-playing and some heroin.
One problem with Claire dieing though: They have a lot of unanswered questions that have to do with her. When she was taken last year, she had something happen to her that must've been traumatic, it caused her to lose her memory. I can't help but feel they don't want to eliminate the 'What happened to Claire' possible upcoming storyline. Although, maybe that'll all be revealed in the next episode before she dies. But wouldn't they make it a Claire episode if they did that? Ahhhh. Also with Claire, they've had one flashback and we know nothing about her character, so they have lots of space to go to in her area.
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Mr. X wrote: Shack wrote: Mr. X wrote: They kinda used up their "Useless Castaways Getting the Axe" cards with Boone and Arzt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was an important character that got killed off. Like, uber important. JJ had it dead-set in his head to kill off the lead in the pilot episode, to shake things up, and I think he would want to do that eventually. Why not? That would mean...Kate? Because shes the only realll important female there at the moment, the rest are on Boone level(though in time I think Shannon could rise up). That'd be an ultra-shocker, but it would work. Or the "female" rumor is false, and was started by someone within "Lost", just to throw us all off. I mean... unless I see it, I don't really believe it's definitely a girl. Theory o'mine: Maybe Claire gets the boot. I think I've seen Charlie take care of the baby more than she has, so maybe she'll get offed and Charlie will have to take care of the baby. Of course, you know... after a grieving period, consisting of sad guitar-playing and some heroin.
If the female rumor is false then I think it is most likely Charlie. He's got this drug problem, he's hiding a stash of heroin, he could get drugged out, do something dangerous with the baby and someone kill him to save the baby, I could see that happening.
However, when they said someone wll be los forever, they flashed across a bunch of cast member faces INCLUDING the tail section people. So maybe it's just bye bye random tail person, shrug.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:34 pm |
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Shack
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Archie Gates wrote: Mr. X wrote: Shack wrote: Mr. X wrote: They kinda used up their "Useless Castaways Getting the Axe" cards with Boone and Arzt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was an important character that got killed off. Like, uber important. JJ had it dead-set in his head to kill off the lead in the pilot episode, to shake things up, and I think he would want to do that eventually. Why not? That would mean...Kate? Because shes the only realll important female there at the moment, the rest are on Boone level(though in time I think Shannon could rise up). That'd be an ultra-shocker, but it would work. Or the "female" rumor is false, and was started by someone within "Lost", just to throw us all off. I mean... unless I see it, I don't really believe it's definitely a girl. Theory o'mine: Maybe Claire gets the boot. I think I've seen Charlie take care of the baby more than she has, so maybe she'll get offed and Charlie will have to take care of the baby. Of course, you know... after a grieving period, consisting of sad guitar-playing and some heroin. If the female rumor is false then I think it is most likely Charlie. He's got this drug problem, he's hiding a stash of heroin, he could get drugged out, do something dangerous with the baby and someone kill him to save the baby, I could see that happening.
However, when they said someone wll be los forever, they flashed across a bunch of cast member faces INCLUDING the tail section people. So maybe it's just bye bye random tail person, shrug.
Yeah Charlie would be the most likely if the rumors are wrong. Nobody likes his character, and hes been turning worse and worse. And it would make sense with the baby. Though they did give him two S1 flashbacks, and he has fame as Merry/Pippen(forget which one). Still, I would be very pleased to see them drop him.
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It wouldn't really surprise me in the least to see a tail-section survivor get killed off. They used the "New character" card already when they introduced Arzt, just for the sake of killing off someone MILDLY important, but... they might do it again.
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Mr. X wrote: It wouldn't really surprise me in the least to see a tail-section survivor get killed off. They used the "New character" card already when they introduced Arzt, just for the sake of killing off someone MILDLY important, but... they might do it again.
Arzt - the most underused character ever...
He was so funny and he never got no fancy funeral like Boone did. That kinda made me mad. He got a "Where's Dr. Artz?" from Charlie, but that's it.
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:03 pm |
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Shack wrote: Yeah Charlie would be the most likely if the rumors are wrong. Nobody likes his character, and hes been turning worse and worse. And it would make sense with the baby. Though they did give him two S1 flashbacks, and he has fame as Merry/Pippen(forget which one). Still, I would be very pleased to see them drop him.
That's sadly not true since Charlie is scheduled to have a flashback episode in Episode 8 or 9....
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Mr. X wrote: Shack wrote: Mr. X wrote: They kinda used up their "Useless Castaways Getting the Axe" cards with Boone and Arzt. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was an important character that got killed off. Like, uber important. JJ had it dead-set in his head to kill off the lead in the pilot episode, to shake things up, and I think he would want to do that eventually. Why not? That would mean...Kate? Because shes the only realll important female there at the moment, the rest are on Boone level(though in time I think Shannon could rise up). That'd be an ultra-shocker, but it would work. Or the "female" rumor is false, and was started by someone within "Lost", just to throw us all off. I mean... unless I see it, I don't really believe it's definitely a girl. Theory o'mine: Maybe Claire gets the boot. I think I've seen Charlie take care of the baby more than she has, so maybe she'll get offed and Charlie will have to take care of the baby. Of course, you know... after a grieving period, consisting of sad guitar-playing and some heroin.
Doubt it. If you remember [highlight] Claire's flashback in season one, the psychic said that only SHE can raise the baby, and that's why he sent her on the plane. She has to live to care for the baby. It's too young now for her to die and for it to turn evil.. its jsut a baby after all. If they did something like that when it was already a few years old, it might be understandable, but otherwise, I don't see it happening..
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Aww man. I didn't realize when people said "Three weeks" that it meant there won't be a new episode for three weeks. 
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The Stewardess from the plane... she's probably got some things to tell about the survivors. Imagine the look on Charlie's face when he sees her
Now that they've kept Jack, I can't see them offing him, Kate or Sawyer until the end of the series or until they are in a lot of trouble with ratings. I don't think Sayid will go, and I think Jin and Sun might live all the way to the end. They are really the only two characters on the island truly in love with each other. I personally like their storyline because it's not really as heavy as the rest (so far), and it's fairly romantic, and I like the actor who plays Jin and Sun is just flippin' hot.
BTW, I got to finish out Season 1 tonight. I have to say that Exodus, Part 1 is one fantastic hour of television, it's probably the best Episode. Exodus, Part 2 kind of lingered a bit.
My favorite Season 1 Episodes were:
Exodus, Part 1
Confidence Man
Pilot, Part 1
Pilot, Part 2
Walkabout
Do No Harm
Outlaws
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Raffiki
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Actually, in opposition to all the talk about Shannon getting axed....
Didn't someone post that it was reported Shannon and Sayid's relationship will go to the next level?
No need in white texting anymore... it's pretty clear what everyone is talking about. Only whute text if it's a spoiler straight from the produers/writers...
So, i someone is going to get offed....
It's not going to be Jack, no explanation needed.
It's not going to be Kate, she was originally the lead of the show and still has unresolved backstory issues.
It's not going to be Sawyer, they finally made it clear Kate does have a thing for him.
It's not going to be Locke, no explanation needed.
It's not going to be Jin or Sun, because they will get reuinted.
It's not going to be Micheal because he has the whole Walt thing.
It's not going to be Sayid because, as still something I can't understand, he's one of the most loved characters on the show by audiences and critics and I think he will be united with his lost love.
Who's left?
Charlie: could be, but they still haven't introduced the drug thing for season 2
Shannon: could be but she still has a relationship with Sayid (reported to go a bit further), now has visions of Walt, and it would be too conveniant to kill off brother and sister. Plus, I personally think she has a larger role to play in the series.
It could be Claire.... think about it. She doesn't really have anything else we need a backstory on, unless it's just filler about her past. Her sole flaskback epsode explained all there was to now about her relation with the island and everything. She's really a pretty useless character now. She could die and Charlie would ahve to take care of the baby!!
Could be Hurley, but he has too much invested in the numbers nd too beloved by audiences. Plus, he's almsot the only comic relief.
So, basically, to me anyone would be a shock!!
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Shack
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The only thing with Claire is, as I mentioned in the white-text, the whole thing with her being taken in S1 and losing her memory. They never went into what happened to her, and I'm sure they wouldn't leave something like that in the dust by killing her.
And shes currently the only castaway we know nothing about. The only flashback we got was concerning her baby, and her getting on the flight. We don't know who Claire is. Her family, where she worked, whether she went to school, we know nothing about her. Would they kill her? I still think it might be Sun.
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Here's a really funny Lost animutation video:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/lost
It's so hilarious! I love the part with Sayid at the end.
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