A thread for DP07’s species
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DP07
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I can only repeat: this forum is not intended to be taken seriously, and I’ve never seriously tried while posting on this forum, or likewise on the internet generally. It is only intended to be a hobby. On other internet threads, I’m only posting as required by what I consider my obligations.
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DP07
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: I must have missed the part when Luke sent the wookies to an island prison that also housed all the people who were responsible for blowing up Alderan.  Stop. It would be a mistake to satire me, and I’m not interested in whether anyone agrees with the existence of the reality of my species. My species is real; and you are not welcome simply if you agree on its existence. Minimal respect only deserves the time and effort necessary.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:16 am |
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DP07
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To concisely summarize: The morality of other species is only acceptable, sufficient, agreeable, or tolerable to the extent, or in context of, respect for truth, reality, logic, mathematics, any other exact representation of such, and love for truth, it’s forms, representations, and any other effort to discover, understand, and endeavor for insight into truth and its allegiances and applications.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:26 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Shack wrote: FDR was actually the biggest dictator from 1900s on imo This will be the last time I’ll respond to you so kindly in the political forum. You did not reply to me directly, but to the topic I had referenced. You were not only warned, but given clear requirements. I will not only be clear; you will have no choice but to comply without question or challenge whatsoever. Your post is not acceptable, sufficient, and will not be tolerated except on condition and temporary demand of unconditional surrender and complete compliance, or non-interference with requirements to disarm, disable, and dismantle all nuclear weapons as soon as possible. Nuclear weapons must be dismantled, disarmed, and disabled regardless of all other considerations. Condemnations of “violence” or “war” are not acceptable, sufficient, justified, rationalized, and will not be tolerated whatsoever. Delay or failure to disarm, dismantle, and disable nuclear programs as soon as possible will be eliminated until compliance is forced.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:34 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Flava'd vs The World wrote: I must have missed the part when Luke sent the wookies to an island prison that also housed all the people who were responsible for blowing up Alderan.  Stop. It would be a mistake to satire me, and I’m not interested in whether anyone agrees with the existence of the reality of my species. My species is real; and you are not welcome simply if you agree on its existence. Minimal respect only deserves the time and effort necessary.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:35 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Shack wrote: DP07 wrote: Essentially because it doesn’t incentivize production, development, or distribution, appropriately, efficiently, accurately, responsibly, or accountably. Not bad, tbh. I don’t take, or feel that, to be a compliment. Your comment is, of course, completely subjective. I’m certain you feel so because I’m agreeing with your status quo. It can be human habit to see human relations as competitive, or often “zero sum games”, especially between different cultures or groups of humans. My priority isn’t to compete and win at the expense of others, but I’ll absolutely do and say what’s necessary to protect myself and my species.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:37 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: I don’t feel like, or care at all about Communist ideals.
My priorities I mentioned in the post have nothing to do with ideology, or even necessarily my species; they were about me personally, and also about this stage of my life, as well as a reference to gender or what seems to the difference between your expectations of gender versus my own. If you interpret that as “Communist”, that is a product of your perspective, worldview, or experience.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:38 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: So you don’t misunderstand me, I’m not anti-empire, or anti-imperialism necessarily; like Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. I’ll fight any enemy that attacks or threatens me or my species though, of course. But I’m anti-classical European style colonialism, and neo-colonialism, including contemporary NATO, etc.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:40 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Shack wrote: DP07 wrote: Shack wrote: DP07 wrote: Essentially because it doesn’t incentivize production, development, or distribution, appropriately, efficiently, accurately, responsibly, or accountably. Not bad, tbh. I don’t take, or feel that, to be a compliment. Your comment is, of course, completely subjective. I’m certain you feel so because I’m agreeing with your status quo. It can be human habit to see human relations as competitive, or often “zero sum games”, especially between different cultures or groups of humans. My priority isn’t to compete and win at the expense of others, but I’ll absolutely do and say what’s necessary to protect myself and my species. I have seen it argued this is kind of similar to how commies feel. They feel like the natural state is a interconnectedness and world village that is impossible with capitalism and competition and therefore their utopia is something of a spiritual rebirth for humans. They don't realize that even in our most primitive hunter and gatherer type times we were killing each other, such as how act like the natives were just peacefully working the land before the white man came and ruined their paradise, when in reality the natives were already in violent warfare with each other. I suppose I should be required to elaborate, but your response was already essentially an offense because you repeated assumptions about me and communism, among other things, even though you had been repeatedly warned. There are severe consequences, but you may continue to try to be blissfully ignorant if you want. “We” were not killing each other in the past since that does not describe my species or the human nature of my species. I understand, and have complete trust and confidence that we would never kill each other like that. But your narrative can, and essentially is certain to lead to death and extinction since we will kill your species, or other species, if necessary, in time, and in the future. Regardless of how long, that time is becoming closer. I don’t care for idealistic (or communist etc.) versions of the history of native cultures. It’s human nature. I have no problem with humans being human. It’s not reasonable or realistic to expect anything else. However, any notion that the British Colonies, the “United States”, or its classical or contemporary civilization is fundamentally more advanced, or more civilized as exception to human history, or the history of civilizations is not valid, justified, or deserved. The same absolutely applies to their morality. No truly advanced civilization, species, intelligence, consciousness, or conscience would behave or speak like that if given the opportunity, so they can have no claim or precedent for such. End.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:44 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: End: Tolerance for ambiguity about, or after my warnings, including regarding species topic and thread content.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:47 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: You saw that on X or something?
I consider them absolutely and objectively worse than nazis because they are complicit, including with Roosevelt.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:51 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: No hyperbole or exaggeration: any other effort to tell history will not, and cannot survive. Roosevelt’s words about infamy can only possibly be answered with no tolerance, rather extinction, and elimination of any effort to be a victor and thus author of history.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:52 am |
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DP07
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FYI: I’m not much of a Star Wars fan; I’d generally consider Harry Potter, Twilight, Hunger Games, or Marvel to be better.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:58 am |
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DP07
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FYI: I’m not much of a Star Wars fan; I’d generally consider Harry Potter, Twilight, Hunger Games, or Marvel to be better.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:59 am |
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DP07
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Final End.
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Final End All.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:01 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Final End.
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Final End All.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:05 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: FYI: I’m not much of a Star Wars fan; I’d generally consider Harry Potter, Twilight, Hunger Games, or Marvel to be better.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:07 am |
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DP07
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Again:
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:08 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: FYI: I’m not much of a Star Wars fan; I’d generally consider Harry Potter, Twilight, Hunger Games, or Marvel to be better.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:08 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Final End.
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Final End All.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:09 am |
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DP07
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TLDR: Mind your own business or you assume responsibility for things you don’t want.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:11 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: TLDR: Mind your own business or you assume responsibility for things you don’t want.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:13 am |
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DP07
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Excel wrote: zwackerm wrote: I believe the argument in favor is that less people died overall in WW2 as a result of the nukes, but that could be untrue propaganda as far as I know.
I’d lean towards yes unless I see an argument that the bombing increased overall WW2 deaths. Invasion of Japan would have killed many more AND someone was always going to discover and demonstrates nuke somehow, it was inevitable and when viewed in that context, all reasonable people know that it was time. I should add, that not only do you assume, or “beg the question” about the difference between using Nuclear Weapons, as opposed to only producing or maintaining them, you also assume, or “beg the question”, about your morality, justification, right, or legitimacy, to use nuclear weapons as opposed to your enemies, opponents, or others you do, or might deem, less worthy of using nuclear weapons. I do not expect that if your enemies had, want, or potentially would use nuclear weapons in the future, that you would consider it likewise justified, legitimate, moral, or right. As another example of your bad assumptions: it was believed at the time that the nazi were developing nuclear weapons, or would do so. They were not in reality. The development of nuclear weapons in an arms race is obviously different. Anyway, not only was it wrong to assume that nuclear weapons were so inevitable, but hypothetically, if your fears had been realized, I do not think the nazi use of nuclear weapons would be acceptable, or reasonable from your perspective, or any likeminded perspective. Your notion of reason is obviously biased, not only by your human nature, but by your culture.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:32 am |
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DP07
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Flava'd vs The World wrote: I must have missed the part when Luke sent the wookies to an island prison that also housed all the people who were responsible for blowing up Alderan. Also; this is reality. Your morality fails to take responsibility because you presume you are right regardless of truth or reality. Thus, why your moral claims are about fiction and dreams.
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Fri Jan 31, 2025 1:54 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Flava'd vs The World wrote: I must have missed the part when Luke sent the wookies to an island prison that also housed all the people who were responsible for blowing up Alderan. Also; this is reality. Your morality fails to take responsibility because you presume you are right regardless of truth or reality. Thus, why your moral claims are about fiction and dreams.
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