Japan Box-Office: On Hiatus
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Pamu
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 Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/29 Corpse wrote: Pamu wrote: Hello! I've been here lurking since the day KnY premiered. But I've decided to make an account because I'm curious about something lol. And it's about this.
Does this make it as the best selling single of the year? I saw a top where it only had it with 200k. Welcome to the forum. It is not. The year ended on December 13th, so it didn't reach 1 million before then. Not that that's anything to be ashamed of, obviously, it's just that it had only 10 weeks on the 2020 charts. LiSA did have the Top 2 Best Selling Digital Singles of 2020 though, first being Gurenge (942,691) and second being Homura (709,966). And over the next several weeks, Homura will likely outsell all but, maybe, the #1 single of 2020. Here are 2020's Top Selling Singles & Albums (12/9/19 - 12/13/20): Best Selling Singles 2020:01. 1,780,306 - SixTONES vs Snow Man – Imitation Rain / D.D. 02. 1,265,582 - Nogizaka46 – Shiawase no Hogoshoku 03. 1,187,338 - AKB48 – Shitsuren, Arigatou 04. 1,155,114 - Arashi – Kite 05. 1,052,471 - NiziU – Step and a step 06. 1,048,345 (1,438,010) - LiSA – Gurenge 07. 1,030,718 - Snow Man – KISSIN’ MY LIPS / Stories 08. 948,730 - LiSA – Homura 09. 917,753 - YOASOBI – Yoru ni Kakeru 10. 878,495 - Official HIGE DANdism – I LOVE… Best Selling Albums 2020:01. 1,970,930 - Yonezu Kenshi – STRAY SHEEP 02. 831,962 - Arashi – This is Arashi 03. 743,123 - BTS – MAP OF THE SOUL:7 ~THE JOURNEY~ 04. 717,249 - King Gnu – CEREMONY 05. 612,574 - King & Prince – L& 06. 555,120 - BTS – MAP OF THE SOUL:7 07. 534,415 - Official HIGE DANDism – Traveler 08. 315,876 - Mr. Children – SOUNDTRACKS 09. 302,081 - SEVENTEEN – 24H 10. 284,664 - Aimyon – Oishii Pasta ga Aru to Kiite A few notes: -Imitation Rain / D.D. is the first debut single in 14-years to top the yearly singles chart. -SixTONES vs Snow Man is the first male act in 11-years to top the yearly singles chart. -Gurenge is a May 2019 release, yet made the 2020 charts (including #1 digital single). Now I get it. Thanks, its just that it seemed weird to me that it was so low but actually it's only a 3 month old song compared to rest I believe. Thanks for your hard work in reporting everything about this blockbuster madness. 
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Boboyo
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Iscariote wrote:
- Best Week in Oricon's history : Week #02 of 2021, (from November 30th 2020 to December 6th 2020) with 3 688 476 sales.
Hey, you're using the old record for the best week in Oricon's history Kimetsu sold 4 774 972 copies in the 2nd week of 2021
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LPLC
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Maybe 85k-90k today at the usual locations
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Cynosure
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Re: Japan Box Office: Admissions/Population Comparison Corpse wrote: All-Time Most Attended Films/Population Comparison (10 Million Admissions+):
% of Pop, (Film's Admissions/Japan's Population) - Film (Year)
19.72% (19.50 million/x98.88 million) - Tokyo Olympiad (1965)
19.62% (24.66 million/125.71 million*) - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (2020) *76-Day Est.*
18.48% (23.50 million/127.13 million) - Spirited Away (2001)
15.76% (20.03 million/127.08 million) - Frozen (2014)
15.24% (19.30 million/126.59 million) - Your Name. (2016)
14.30% (13.00 million/x90.73 million) - Emperor Meiji and the Great Russo-Japanese War (1957)
13.35% (16.83 million/126.06 million) - Titanic (1997)
13.10% (12.55 million/x95.83 million) - Godzilla vs. King Kong (1962)
12.74% (16.20 million/127.13 million) - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
12.14% (15.50 million/127.68 million) - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
11.26% (14.20 million/126.06 million) - Princess Mononoke (1997)
10.99% (14.00 million/127.39 million) - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
10.08% (12.87 million/127.68 million) - Ponyo (2008)
9.869% (12.60 million/127.67 million) - Bayside Shakedown: Save the Rainbow Bridge! (2003)
9.477% (12.10 million/127.67 million) - The Last Samurai (2003)
9.022% (10.69 million/118.48 million) - E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
8.615% (11.00 million/127.68 million) - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
8.364% (10.61 million/126.26 million) - Weathering With You (2019)
8.237% (10.45 million/126.26 million) - Frozen II (2019)
8.051% (10.31 million/127.55 million) - Avatar (2009)
Note: Populations are yearly averages from the UN; estimates can slightly vary.
*Estimated population as of December 2020.
The incredibly long-standing record of 55-years held by Tokyo Olympiad is very likely to fall tomorrow. When this falls tomorrow, that's pretty much it. It's broken practically every record up to this point besides a couple weekend records (8th and 10th). There aren't any more records to really seek other than the remaining weekend records for the remainder of its run, and longevity-themed records like aiming to achieve the most weeks in the Top 5/10 and such. That's one record that might still fall in the future even with the declining population. In fact perhaps the declining population will make it easier to achieve depending on movie going habits ? Which age group sees the most movies per year in Japan on average ? Children ? Teenagers ? Middle age people ? The elderly ?
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Cynosure wrote: Corpse wrote: All-Time Most Attended Films/Population Comparison (10 Million Admissions+):
% of Pop, (Film's Admissions/Japan's Population) - Film (Year)
19.72% (19.50 million/x98.88 million) - Tokyo Olympiad (1965)
19.62% (24.66 million/125.71 million*) - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (2020) *76-Day Est.*
18.48% (23.50 million/127.13 million) - Spirited Away (2001)
15.76% (20.03 million/127.08 million) - Frozen (2014)
15.24% (19.30 million/126.59 million) - Your Name. (2016)
14.30% (13.00 million/x90.73 million) - Emperor Meiji and the Great Russo-Japanese War (1957)
13.35% (16.83 million/126.06 million) - Titanic (1997)
13.10% (12.55 million/x95.83 million) - Godzilla vs. King Kong (1962)
12.74% (16.20 million/127.13 million) - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
12.14% (15.50 million/127.68 million) - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
11.26% (14.20 million/126.06 million) - Princess Mononoke (1997)
10.99% (14.00 million/127.39 million) - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
10.08% (12.87 million/127.68 million) - Ponyo (2008)
9.869% (12.60 million/127.67 million) - Bayside Shakedown: Save the Rainbow Bridge! (2003)
9.477% (12.10 million/127.67 million) - The Last Samurai (2003)
9.022% (10.69 million/118.48 million) - E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
8.615% (11.00 million/127.68 million) - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
8.364% (10.61 million/126.26 million) - Weathering With You (2019)
8.237% (10.45 million/126.26 million) - Frozen II (2019)
8.051% (10.31 million/127.55 million) - Avatar (2009)
Note: Populations are yearly averages from the UN; estimates can slightly vary.
*Estimated population as of December 2020.
The incredibly long-standing record of 55-years held by Tokyo Olympiad is very likely to fall tomorrow. When this falls tomorrow, that's pretty much it. It's broken practically every record up to this point besides a couple weekend records (8th and 10th). There aren't any more records to really seek other than the remaining weekend records for the remainder of its run, and longevity-themed records like aiming to achieve the most weeks in the Top 5/10 and such. That's one record that might still fall in the future even with the declining population. In fact perhaps the declining population will make it easier to achieve depending on movie going habits ? Which age group sees the most movies per year in Japan on average ? Children ? Teenagers ? Middle age people ? The elderly ? I think middle age audience is the biggest movie goers group
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Cynosure
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Alo12345 wrote: Cynosure wrote: Corpse wrote: All-Time Most Attended Films/Population Comparison (10 Million Admissions+):
% of Pop, (Film's Admissions/Japan's Population) - Film (Year)
19.72% (19.50 million/x98.88 million) - Tokyo Olympiad (1965)
19.62% (24.66 million/125.71 million*) - Demon Slayer: Mugen Train (2020) *76-Day Est.*
18.48% (23.50 million/127.13 million) - Spirited Away (2001)
15.76% (20.03 million/127.08 million) - Frozen (2014)
15.24% (19.30 million/126.59 million) - Your Name. (2016)
14.30% (13.00 million/x90.73 million) - Emperor Meiji and the Great Russo-Japanese War (1957)
13.35% (16.83 million/126.06 million) - Titanic (1997)
13.10% (12.55 million/x95.83 million) - Godzilla vs. King Kong (1962)
12.74% (16.20 million/127.13 million) - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001)
12.14% (15.50 million/127.68 million) - Howl's Moving Castle (2004)
11.26% (14.20 million/126.06 million) - Princess Mononoke (1997)
10.99% (14.00 million/127.39 million) - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002)
10.08% (12.87 million/127.68 million) - Ponyo (2008)
9.869% (12.60 million/127.67 million) - Bayside Shakedown: Save the Rainbow Bridge! (2003)
9.477% (12.10 million/127.67 million) - The Last Samurai (2003)
9.022% (10.69 million/118.48 million) - E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
8.615% (11.00 million/127.68 million) - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004)
8.364% (10.61 million/126.26 million) - Weathering With You (2019)
8.237% (10.45 million/126.26 million) - Frozen II (2019)
8.051% (10.31 million/127.55 million) - Avatar (2009)
Note: Populations are yearly averages from the UN; estimates can slightly vary.
*Estimated population as of December 2020.
The incredibly long-standing record of 55-years held by Tokyo Olympiad is very likely to fall tomorrow. When this falls tomorrow, that's pretty much it. It's broken practically every record up to this point besides a couple weekend records (8th and 10th). There aren't any more records to really seek other than the remaining weekend records for the remainder of its run, and longevity-themed records like aiming to achieve the most weeks in the Top 5/10 and such. That's one record that might still fall in the future even with the declining population. In fact perhaps the declining population will make it easier to achieve depending on movie going habits ? Which age group sees the most movies per year in Japan on average ? Children ? Teenagers ? Middle age people ? The elderly ? I think middle age audience is the biggest movie goers group In absolute terms, obviously, but I was wondering in per capita terms. If the average elderly sees more movies per year than the average middle age man/woman, then the ageing of the population will make it easier to break that record.
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ymblcza
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 I think I've seen a report saying the average times of watching movies per year per capita is 10s > 20s > 30s > 40s > 50s > 60s > 70s
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 New year eve, everybody stay at home to welcome the new year together, so the night shows is like non exist... haha
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LPLC
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Alo12345 wrote: New year eve, everybody stay at home to welcome the new year together, so the night shows is like non exist... haha Yes it is quite normal, a final around 84k-85k as expected. But tomorrow will be a strong day, I look forward to the figures from ymblcza.
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Iscariote
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Boboyo wrote: Iscariote wrote:
- Best Week in Oricon's history : Week #02 of 2021, (from November 30th 2020 to December 6th 2020) with 3 688 476 sales.
Hey, you're using the old record for the best week in Oricon's history Kimetsu sold 4 774 972 copies in the 2nd week of 2021 Thank you for noticing this mistake, I changed the week on my spreadsheet but didn't follow through with the sales number^^, you saved me from repeating this mistake week after week. I can't believe the Tokyo Olympiad record is going to fall down, it seems unreachable to me.
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Cynosure
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 ymblcza wrote: I think I've seen a report saying the average times of watching movies per year per capita is 10s > 20s > 30s > 40s > 50s > 60s > 70s Thank you ! This makes Demon Slayer breaking the record even more impressive given the ageing of the Japanese population since 1965. The median age back then was 27.2 vs 48.4 today (and forecasted to be 54.7 in 2050).
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ymblcza
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 TOHO 22940, a bit higher than Tue and Mon
prob looking at ~135k
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 ymblcza wrote: TOHO 22940, a bit higher than Tue and Mon
prob looking at ~135k Fri (1/1) is the biggest day during new year week, no?
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ymblcza
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Alo12345 wrote: ymblcza wrote: TOHO 22940, a bit higher than Tue and Mon
prob looking at ~135k Fri (1/1) is the biggest day during new year week, no? Different film behaves very differently Presales for 1/2 looks very bad... only 70% of 1/1 at the same point
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 ymblcza wrote: Alo12345 wrote: ymblcza wrote: TOHO 22940, a bit higher than Tue and Mon
prob looking at ~135k Fri (1/1) is the biggest day during new year week, no? Different film behaves very differently Presales for 1/2 looks very bad... only 70% of 1/1 at the same point Hmm...... what happened?? 
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LPLC
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 ymblcza wrote: TOHO 22940, a bit higher than Tue and Mon
prob looking at ~135k I really wasn't expecting this. I thought friday was gonna be big.
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ymblcza
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 135k is big, wait for the actual number first
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 ymblcza wrote: 135k is big, wait for the actual number first Sat is smalller than Fri is impposible...
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ymblcza
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 1/2 is almost guaranteed to be smaller, Frozen 2, Your Name and Star Wars 7 all decreased
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 ymblcza wrote: 1/2 is almost guaranteed to be smaller, Frozen 2, Your Name and Star Wars 7 all decreased If Fri 1/1 is the biggest day during week, Then Sat decrease can be reasonable... 
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charlie jat
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 I hope to see 150k tomorrow, may be more.
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 charlie jat wrote: I hope to see 150k tomorrow, may be more. Corona virus case rise in these days?
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Alo12345
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Can we expect less heavy in presale and better walkup on 1st, 2nd, 3rd Jan ???
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Alo12345 wrote: ymblcza wrote: 135k is big, wait for the actual number first Sat is smalller than Fri is impposible... No. Saturdays and Sundays can be lower than the weekdays during holiday periods since each day of the week during a holiday period behaves like a weekend. Regarding Friday, we all need to just wait and refrain from trying to predict things too much. Walk-ups are generally good during holidays, and in addition to Friday being a holiday, it's also a discount day. And in Demon Slayer's case, given its numbers have been so high, it'll naturally be more difficult for it to achieve bigger Friday jump than most of the other films in release. Need to be patient and wait to see how it, and everything else performs. All that said, COVID cases have been rising, and in my opinion, are nearing levels that could begin to impact the box office here soon. Not necessarily closing theaters, just that more and more people may start to stay home more often. The post-holiday drop-off could be pretty large. But this is all speculation right now, and I suggest not trying to predict how this may or may not impact the box office until there's evidence of an impact first. _________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.”
“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
"Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Corpse
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Re: Japan Box-Office: Christmas Week 2020 Daily Ests. (12/30 Alo12345 wrote: Can we expect better less heavy in presale and better walkup on 1st, 2nd, 3rd Jan ??? Maybe. Just wait and see. Check the post I made at the bottom of the last page. _________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.”
“We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.”
“There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.”
“You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.”
"Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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