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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 15900 Location: Classified
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 Weekend Estimates
Dory - $73.2m ID42R - $41.6m Centeal Intelligence - $18.3m The Shallows - $16.7m Free State of Jones - $7.7m Jungl Book - Somehow still over a million. Crazy good late legs.
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Magnus
KJ's Most Embarssing Misspeller
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:20 pm Posts: 56112 Location: The District
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 Re: Weekend Estimates
Pretty crappy IMs all around.
ID42 number is still a bit surreal to look at. An utter waste of a blockbuster performance.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 20927 Location: Massachusetts
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 Re: Weekend Estimates
Should've just paid Willy his $50 million.
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Jmart wrote: Should've just paid Willy his $50 million. Will Smith is not a draw anymore.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 20500 Location: Places
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 Re: Weekend Estimates
How on Earth did San Andreas open to over 50 last year?
Marketing has been a complete disaster for Fox
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 15900 Location: Classified
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 Re: Weekend Estimates
It's hard to market a movie with no money shots, which is what ID4 is.
Great hold for Centea Intelligence.
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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BOM NumbersThe numbers for all Disney films are so precise.
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48351 Location: Multi-tasking
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All that needs to be said about ID4 2 is this:
July 5-7, 1996 1 N INDEPENDENCE DAY Fox $50,228,264 - 2,882 - $17,428 $96,102,252 1
June 24-26, 2016 2 N INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Fox $41,600,000 - 4,068 - $10,226 $41,600,000 1
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tree and a half
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:38 am Posts: 2070
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 Re: Weekend Estimates
Flava'd vs The World wrote: Jungl Book - Somehow still over a million. Crazy good late legs. With Deadpool already closed, Jungle Book only has to squeeze out $5 million more from bored families over the summer vacation to take the #2 spot on the domestic list.
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6125
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Advertising has been light for ID4:2. So it got what it deserved.
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Magnus
KJ's Most Embarssing Misspeller
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:20 pm Posts: 56112 Location: The District
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i think its a bit too easy to saw "ID42 marketing wasnt good" and thats why it opened to 41m. Like, yes the marketing wasn't great though I don't think it was utterly horrible. Even with mediocre marketing, the concept of a ID42 sequel should have done much more than a 41m OW.
This is more to do with the "go big or go home" symptom. I bet there was a huge amount of fringe audience for ID42 that just didn't come for various reasons (marketing, lack of Will, no unique angle to the concept, etc.). The film just fell short of getting that fringe audience but that potential was there.
It's why I really do think if Will was in the movie, the film would have done much better because a lot of that fringe audience would have shown up.
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Magnus
KJ's Most Embarssing Misspeller
Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:20 pm Posts: 56112 Location: The District
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as for Dory, its drop is almost identical to TS3. The quest for 500m is looking good though it can't get impacted too much by the July competition.
Central Intelligence held fairly well. 115m very doable. It will be Harts biggest film next to Ride Along. The Rock now will break 100m+ for the 7th time in this last 10 films. And of those three that didn't, Hercules was the only one with a budget over 30m. He really has become the best big-budget bet today.
The Shallows did well though not quite that big-breakout some were expecting. Between the success of Gravity, Martian, and Shallows, the man vs. nature genre has done well in recent years.
Overall, despite ID42 bombing, the weekend was pretty strong.
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Rolling Thunder
Forum General
Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:11 pm Posts: 8963 Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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NYSM2 isn't doing too bad considering it's a rather uninspired sequel.
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Omni
The Antichrist
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:04 am Posts: 1735 Location: Calisota
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Unsurprisingly, Dory ended up with a drop in the mid-40's. Even the strong names at Kj act like dumb kids when they're excited by a bunch of strong dailies.
Anyways, 155M more millions needed to beat the Crap.
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6125
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Quote: “Independence Day: Resurgence” is not on the cover this week’s Entertainment Weekly, which just landed.
The stars of “Resurgence” are not all over the TV, appearing on “Ellen” or the “Tonight Show” or “Jimmy Kimmel,” showing clips.
In fact, there is dead silence surrounding the hugely expensive, highly anticipated sequel to the massive 1996 Roland Emmerich hit “Independence Day.”
That movie was released on July 3, 1996 to tie in with the actual Independence Day– July 4th weekend. This one is set for June 24th, very specifically NOT that tie in.
There have been no advance screenings, no press. There’s no press junket this weekend. My junketeer friends have received no information. There’s some kind of premiere on Monday in Los Angeles next week, a couple of days before the opening night in theaters. But nothing else is set for New York at all, and that is a bad bad sign.
But the cast did sneak into New York last week for stealth publicity: they rang the opening bell at the New York stock Exchange. They appeared in an AOL Build Speaker series, whatever that is. They were on Sirius XM Radio. On Friday, there was a premiere in Mexico City.
Shhhh. Don’t tell anyone, but “IDR” is coming. The cast must be wondering what’s going on. Or they know.
Maybe it’s a huge $200 million flop. But Fox should have counted on the good will of fans who’ve waited 20 years (like me) to see what happened. Alas, this much we do know: Will Smith passed on the script. Randy Quaid is MIA. Margaret Colin and Mary McDonnell didn’t return. Robert Loggia and James Rebhorn couldn’t return– they’re deceased. There’s a Hemsworth involved.
Fox is just coming off a disappointment with the latest “X Men” movie, which made $100 million less than the prior one domestically. Studio chief Jim Gianopolous is out the door and replaced by Stacey Snider (who should do great things). So if “IDR” is really really not good, they are downplaying it. But my guess is Gianopolous’s exit news, which came this week, is tied to “IDR” and its box office fate.
Or maybe it’s really really great– and we will all be pleasantly surprised. But there are also eleven — 11– writer credits. Five of them are for the screenplay!
PS What did Will Smith know that we didn’t know? The studio shot of Jeff Goldblum and Liam Hemsworth in space suits is worrisome. If they go into space to fight the aliens, the whole “ID4” vibe is altered. Of course, Will is no expert on space movies, as we know. http://www.showbiz411.com/2016/06/18/independence-day-sequel-fox-bracing-for-200-mil-of-possible-bad-news-with-no-advance-screenings-and-stealth-pressPretty much my observation too. I noticed little to none of marketing from the press cohorts. No advertorials, no tie-in shows, no nothing. It did not feel like a blockbuster-type marketing campaign to me. All I can say is they pulled much of the marketing budget heading into the release.
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pepe pippen
The Dark Knight
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:25 am Posts: 735
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Omni wrote: Unsurprisingly, Dory ended up with a drop in the mid-40's. Even the strong names at Kj act like dumb kids when they're excited by a bunch of strong dailies.
Anyways, 155M more millions needed to beat the Crap. 88% at RT.Deal with it. 
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Mau
100% That Bitch
Joined: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:42 pm Posts: 14851 Location: Monterrey, Mexico
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Should have casted The Rock instead.
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 15427 Location: San Diego
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Too bad A24 didn't get The Neon Demon, they probably would've done a better job with it, although it probably was never going to do big business to begin with.
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34867 Location: Maryland
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It would have followed Green Room's path: muscular debut in the big cities, ignored entirely upon expansion to the suburbs. It is tough going for a violent and/or unusual genre movie since the specialty circuit outside the cities is so driven by an older audience gravitating toward Love & Friendship, The Meddler, etc.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 63722
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i.hope
Defeats all expectations
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 5:04 pm Posts: 6125
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David wrote: It would have followed Green Room's path: muscular debut in the big cities, ignored entirely upon expansion to the suburbs. It is tough going for a violent and/or unusual genre movie since the specialty circuit outside the cities is so driven by an older audience gravitating toward Love & Friendship, The Meddler, etc. The Neon Demon would have done better than it is now if it had followed Green Room's path. It has a weird release strategy. It should be sold as an edgy horror exploitation. But they sell it like an arthouse movie. It is not even playing in the downtown area here.
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Magic Mike
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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:53 am Posts: 33268 Location: Minnesota
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A24 is already planning to go nationwide Friday with Swiss Army Man. Now how wide who knows. Quote: Said distributor A24 Sunday: “The truly one-of-a-kind comedy that The New York Times raved was ‘stunningly original’ enjoyed sold out shows and terrific exit poll scores all weekend long. Polling also showed that the overwhelmingly under 35 audience are absolutely loving the audacious, entertaining and heartwarming world created by rising stars Daniel Kwan and Daniel Scheinert as well as the touching and hilarious performances from Daniel Radcliffe and Paul Dano.” Swiss Army Man will head out nationwide July 1. I think they might be jumping the gun. Hopefully they don't go into more than a couple hundred theaters.
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 20927 Location: Massachusetts
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_axiom wrote: Jmart wrote: Should've just paid Willy his $50 million. Will Smith is not a draw anymore. I agree. But in the sequel to the movie that solidified him as a movie star? Fox probably would've made a little more internationally, and the opening here would've been higher than $41 million. The film might have had some true nostalgia going for it. Then again, based on the article above, Fox probably doesn't care too much as they seemingly just tossed the film away.
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Jack Sparrow
Why is the rum gone???
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I don't understand what is going around at Fox but this is really pathetic marketing wise specially when they thought of starting a franchise with this movie.
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 63722
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Paying Will Smith $50m would have just resulted in a further $50m loss for Fox. He would not have added anything to the gross. He is nothing now. Is KJ not aware of Focus, Concussion, and After Earth?
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