Speaking of Jon, it was hilarious when Ygritte's said you know nothing Jon Snow while he was going down on her :p

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And Shireen teaching the Onion Knight how to read. Its probably one of the changes from the book that was done right instead of having Edric Storm teaching Davos. It really was a heart felt moment

Yeah that scene was very touching, also liked the added Stannis scenes, as it humanized him. His wife is sure batty.

I think we are at a point where the show is getting alot more right than wrong and will eventually surpass the books in terms of quality (atleast within the constraints of TV).

yeah no.

Eventually. When they get to the bulk of Feast and Dance - they will hopefully condense some of the lengthy snoopers like Dany in Mereen, Brienne's travels, Tyrion's travels to Mereen etc and provide us what we wanted from Books for and 5. They really don't have to add anything new just cut back on so e of GRRMs over indulgence.

Yeah I agree, I think Season 5 and 6 (which should be Feast and Dance) should be much better than what ended up in the books.

I expect a few POV will be cut off like Arianne and Quentin Martell or that Young Griff will be shortened.

I think they have to at least do something with the Martells and show something of Dorne. I do expect them to play a major role in the series. But I would cut them down heavily.

Books 4 and 5 will play much better on screen than written word. Book 4 dragged, and Book 5 featured so few characters one could feel isolated from the rest of the world. The TV show will condense the needless prose into the primary events, and will weave it together in a chronological fashion that eliminates many of the books problems.

I'd still take the books any day, but the average fan is going to like the show more at this point. These books really aren't for everyone, despite the amazing high level story and detailed world.

Yeah that was my biggest problems with those two books was the chronology. I am not sure why he did that.

Maybe it's cause I read all the books right after another but I honestly dig book 4. Don't get the hate.

I think it is because it didn't include certain fan favorite characters

Thats probably why.

For most there was a long 5 year wait for the book (after GRRM had half finished ADWD years earlier and then scrapped it in favour of the book he ended up with which was also only half the characters. When you read them back to back its fine. But when you wait 5 years for half the story and another 6 for the rest - it certainly taints the reading experience.

I didnt wait so long for book 4 but it just couldnt measure up to the first three books - especially the end of book 3. It also was rather uneventful. Where as I enjoyed Dance much more outside of the Tyrion chapters and the fist half of Dany chapters. The last few Mereen chapters were great.

As Eagle said above - the show will greatly improve on books 4 and 5 simply by combining them(and cutting the excess) as they should have been as books.

Those two books have those problems because he had to rewrite the whole story after deciding what he had wrote didn't work.

I just think that most events that take place in the free cities are boring. I love the happenings with the Ironborn the best

The Ironborn part is awesome, part of why I like book 4 a lot.

Also, maybe it's just me but I personally think the show really doesn't do justice to the characters. The books add layers to the characters that the show just can't do.

What the show does do is manage to do justice to the universe as a whole, expand upon side/minor characters, provide a lot more clarity during the action scenes (most of which I think are kinda way too chaotic in the books), and the nudity.

But the show has never and really never will do true justice to the main characters. It's just impossible to provide what the books provide.

I liked the Iron Born chapters, the Martels are boring lol. I am sure those chapters will be cut down.

Dorne is cool IMO.

I just couldn't get into their story beyond the Red Viper.

yeah most of Dorne was about the erotic adventures of Arianne.

Of which I was totally down for cause Arianne was a total babe in my eyes.

That might have been the funniest Game of Thrones ever. Loras . Sam seems like he's having the time of his life out there. And also one of the most thrilling. Climbing the wall.

Seems like they are using Gendry in place of Edric Storm.

Also, with Ros dead, where are we going to get our sexposition?