What a stupid thread.

+1

I think it was Rod that pointed this out about BKB the last time he got something right back in 2003 or 2004. It is like congratulating the crank on the corner with "the end of the world is near", eventually it will happen. We'll just forget the exceedingly high number of times it was wrong.

If he posted every film was going to break Avatar's WW gross at some point he will be right. It is what he does with almost every Marvel film, and he was always wrong before. He is 1 for 100+, let's be amazed at his wonderful box office prognostication skills. He is the Nostradamus of the Mississippi. Let us also take the moment to bow down to his people skills.

Even so this forum failed like never before on this film and went over board and crazy with TDKR predictions.
So we all look dumb...

Well BKB was part of the forum back then

Keep your self-flagellation to yourself or BOC and leave the rest of us out of it. He makes basically the same prediction every time. If some movie he does not like makes $100 OW, he will write it will have terrible legs and finish at $150, when that is basically impossible. If he likes some movie he will give it Avatar like legs and have it play throughout the the summer when it opened on Christmas.

The Marvel films had not been very good and seemed to be declining in quality. None of the films outside of IM made more than $300m. Before anyone knew how good the movie was going to be it was unlikely to expect it to be as well received as it was by both critics and moviegoers. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, which is BKB's M.O. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me upteen times shame on BKB.

If you want to talk about biggest fails, then you should look at My Big Fat Greek Wedding or Blindside. People were off 50-100% on this movie, and there are numerous movies that have matched or exceeded that percentage in the past.

Woh woh
Chill out Bro

lol I was not defending BKB,.

Just saying as a box office community, we predicted this year so wrong.

Just pointing out what a wacky year it has been...

We all have been so wrong this year and I was just commenting that how we all failed at seeing TA massive appeal.
We also forgot a sequel to an all time blockbuster has never increased...

You are right that all the marvel films apart from IM were not big but I think we were silly in dismissing the novelty of having all of these heroes together.
However I think we are being a bit mean saying all the Marvel films sucked and no one cared about them.
They all grossed 100's of millions of dollars and were widely seen.

I think if TA was not even any good it would have still cracked 350-400 million due to increased interest.

Manny-You use such extreme language or examples. You lump everyone in when you write "all" when very few made predictions. I didn't say the Marvel films sucked, I just stated the were at a certain level (they tended to come in the 60-80% range on RT). I lumped Fantastic Four and Daredevil in my recollection, which was probably a mistake since they were not linked to TA. I can't speak for anyone else, but IM2 kind of burned me in that I thought it would open bigger than it did and have a gross closer to $400m than $300m. I think in my mind it had 3D and this film did not so my estimate of what TA could make was really based on a faulty assumption. Another mistake I made was that there was too much overlap in the audience for the films to make a major jump in the films total. However, after I saw the film I realized I had only seen The Incredible Hulk in a theater, I did not see the reboot, Thor, CA, nor either of the IM films. Yet, I saw TA its second or third weekend. My predictions were written back in 2010, so who knows what I would have thought back in April. I was not paying it much attention until after it opened.

I think one thing to recognize with TA and THG is that the sequels may have trouble topping the original's gross. I think quite a few people were interested in seeing them, because they grossed so much their OW. I know THG had reallly bad feedback among the people I know that saw it. I went to a morning show, and the bar I went to afterwards to have lunch had two other couples that came from the same showing. I thought it was o.k. and my opinion was the most favorable of the group. I have not met anyone over 40 that liked it. TA has not been as bad, but about half were not impressed with it. It would have been interesting to see how TDKR would have fared without Aurora, because even though it was widely well liked there would have been a certain percentage of people that did not care for TDK that would not have seen this new film. Now, we might mistakenly count some of them as lost to Aurora.

Return of the Jedi increased over The Empire Strikes Back, and ROTK increased over TTT. So, how can we forget something that does not exist?

Damn right, Confucius.

I agree with mdana that TA2 may not top the original due to how big the original was and the novelty factor surrounding it. Exact same thing happened to TDKR. These films fall into the group headed by Spidey 2, ESB, Lost World, IM2, Potter etc where the original was so big, its hard to top.

Catching Fire could possibly beat THG though, it has a bit more room for growth due to the franchise winning new fans much like New Moon.

"We also forgot a sequel to an all time blockbuster has never increased..."

Well I am wrong to say never but usually if the film becomes one of the biggest hits ever, the chances for the sequel to increase or match its total is quite low.


About TA2?

I agree that it will not beat TA total but if Whedon is back I think its clearing 500 million no problem.


About TDKR

Reaction to it has been great but its not seen as the same level as TDK so its not creating that craze that TDK did. Of course the shootings are having an impact but I think TDK will been seen like Spider Man 1 and Hp1 and many other films that just lit a spark with audiences. TA will likley join this list.

So I agree the shootings had an impact but imo looking into the past there was no indication for TDKR to beat TDK in admissions. I think even with it opening at full potential of 190 or so million it would not have reach 600 million. No way...


Also to remember with TA is that it was quite different from the past recent marvel films or Batman films. It really broke out with tweens and kids and such so it did not have to become as super popular with adults.

Guys, I seriously think you should unban BKB and let him get his fair share. For years he was getting nothing but shit for his calls, and now when his biggest call is on he can't come in and enjoy his time. I feel it's not fair. He was right twice - Avengers was unexpectedly huge and TDKR even after the nuclear strike is unusually slow. And besides, the man was real fun. Have you no compassion for poor guy?

I personally do not like BKB but I do think Mr. R has a point.

BKB being banned or not is not that important to me.

However we all did not see the results of this year coming...

Unfortunately he was killed during the Aurora shooting.

Of course it did; it was aimed primarily at kids and teenagers.

No? Who cares if he's right? Why does that mean he deserves his fair share? He's still annoying as shit.

Because everyone does. And if he was banned permanently just for that rant on Nolan fans, I say that's BS.


He's still part of KJ family, KJ blood. I believe there is such a thing. You may not like him, but he was here for years, and deserves some respect for that.

It's not like he's grabbing stars in real life, so I think we can all be good human beings giving him what's due. No need to be cruel. The man really got it. Twice. Make his life a bit warmer, for fuck's sake.

Are you one of his girlfriends or something?

Er, he wasn't banned just out of nowhere for annoying rants about TDKR. He was banned, finally, after "years" of non-stop trolling, attacking users and just being generally annoying as shit. Oh, and he's really creepy, too.

We need a mannyisthebest meme generator