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I don't think Colorado has impacted TDKR's run as of now. Its just that the expectations were HUGE me included. Atleast over Friday if it makes high-80's or low-90's then it would mean that the day business was what it was expected to but it was the midnights that came in lower to expectations of about $5m-$10m.

It also shows how HUGE HP8's OD was specially the midnights. I don't think with $31m midnights $100m OD is happening though I am still hopeful for the OD record, regardless of admissions record which is a given.

With $92m OD ($30.6m + $61.4)
Saturday - $58m
Sunday - $53m
OW - $202m-$203m

For now $200m is easily possible and if we see a surprise increase over Saturday (highly unlikely at this point) then TDKR can still get the record.


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Not going to lie, 80 million would be fairly weak. TDK inflated adjusted (using BOM inflation adjustor- not sure if its 100% accurate) would adjust the opening day of that film to about 74 million. Add in the massive increase in IMAX theaters from 2008 and we're not really seeing the type of increase I would expect for the follow up to the movie many consider to have almost universal acclaim. Of course, Nikki could be way off, and this could end up in the upper 80's.


AMC Tysons 16

10 sellouts/32 showings

AMC Hoffman 22

7 sellouts/45 showings

I might have missed a sellout or two, because some of the ones from 7-9 sold out right before showtime, and Tysons could (unlikely) have one or two more. Showings were added during the day, and sellouts were underwhelming for a major OW. Most shows I have seen, but I have not monitored a major OW since Iron Man 2. IM2 had 25 or so showings at Tysons and 33-35 showings at Hoffman with less total sellouts. It beat IM2 easily at these venues, but that film only made $43.7m during its OD minus midnights. So, it probably made at least $75m.

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It makes sense that we may not see as many sellouts because of just how many showtimes there are. A lot of theaters here in St. Louis were averaging 5-6 screens for TDKR today.


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I don't understand how this wouldn't top Avengers.

EVERYONE is talking about it and has plans to see it. I only know a few people who had plans to see Avengers on opening day.

It's got more screens and showings, too (at least it seems like it).

It's a little baffling. Is it really the 3-D surcharge?


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It makes sense that we may not see as many sellouts because of just how many showtimes there are. A lot of theaters here in St. Louis were averaging 5-6 screens for TDKR today.


Yeah, I kind of sensed this yesterday seeing the massive amount of showings in NOVA from MO12's reports. Sorry if I got his name wrong.

If I had tracked Avengers and HP 8, I would have a better sense of where the film did at least in this area. Its great compared to IM2, but I have no idea what that means. I mean if I didn't get all these gloomy posts from Nikki and others, I could foresee it getting $55m-60m just on basic knowledge from how the films did prior to 2010.

It just does not seem to be happening and reading other movie blogs, there are hardcore movie fans that are not DC or Marvel fanatics (meaning they don't have an obvious ax to grind) who seemed freaked out and are staying away tonight or for the weekend not out of fear, but out of a sense of loss and as some sort of coping mechanism. I think it had an impact, and if it was 10% that's approximately $5m, the difference between $80m and $85m.

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It sold out every show here in Boston today so I would be surprised if it does less than high 80s.


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I don't understand how this wouldn't top Avengers.

EVERYONE is talking about it and has plans to see it. I only know a few people who had plans to see Avengers on opening day.

It's got more screens and showings, too (at least it seems like it).

It's a little baffling. Is it really the 3-D surcharge?


That could be part of it, if it finishes around the same OD total, but I think the shooting has an impact too. Until there are concrete numbers, it is just idle speculation on my part. At least with real numbers or final estimates my speculation would be slightly informed. ;)

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It sold out every show here in Boston today so I would be surprised if it does less than high 80s.


That is fantastic, I hope your estimate holds or goes even higher. I think anything over $85m is astounding with the horrible news of this morning. Even if this thing somehow broke the record, the box office was down a little today, because people were a little scared or didn't want to deal with being reminded of it.

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There's a storm coming.....just you wait

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torrino wrote:
I don't understand how this wouldn't top Avengers.

EVERYONE is talking about it and has plans to see it. I only know a few people who had plans to see Avengers on opening day.

It's got more screens and showings, too (at least it seems like it).

It's a little baffling. Is it really the 3-D surcharge?

I don't know about the screenings and showings stuff but Avengers is more family friendly and RDJ is a bigger star than anyone in TDKR as far as putting butts in seats. So it has some advantages.


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What's more likely?

That WB doesn't want to gloat over breaking $200 Million?

Or

WB doesn't want to compound the tragedy with news of TDKR not meeting expectations?


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Arcsol wrote:
What's more likely?

That WB doesn't want to gloat over breaking $200 Million?

Or

WB doesn't want to compound the tragedy with news of TDKR not meeting expectations?


Could be neither. They don't know how to react to this situation and they acquisced to please industry insiders from people like David Poland and others to suspend reporting. If the Batman series or just following the box office in general has taught us anything, it is the world is not black and white. There is rarely just one variable that causes a film or studio to do well or poorly.

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In Canada it did rather well below expectations.

Well below TA on Friday

". I only know a few people who had plans to see Avengers on opening day"

TA Sucess is understood like this...

only 80 million Fri
126 million on Sat and Sunday combined


Sunday was 92% of Non Friday Sunday, that is the same as TDK pretty much.
Makes sense now? :funny:

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You guys make me puke. In Syria, a dictator has been eliminating his own people for 1.5 year because he desperately wants to remain in power. The world has the power to stop it, but it hasn't since it started in March 2011. I bet most of you can't even locate Syria on a map.

But when a mass murderer decides to shoot a few dozen American people, now that's really a tragedy, isn't it.

I can see you're angry (and an asshole), but there's an inherent fallacy in your post. You are assuming none of us are infuriated and upset by the Syrian government...just because we are also discussing this smaller scale tragedy?

I for one have followed the events in Syria rather closely. I, however, have no control over "the world" and its military forces.


I take it in the context that Syria is often treated as less eventful on average probably because it's off somewhere in 'regimeistan'. Language and tone can be telling.


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Our friend RTH said getting numbers will be a tricky this weekend.

However if records were smashed, we would have heard something.

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I agree with torrino. Most people I know are seeing this this weekend, or will be seeing it a second time this weekend. Hell, my dad is seeing it right now.

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I think we forget one key thing


What was TA biggest day?

Saturday

What does that mean?

Families...

That is why Spider Man 3 and TA broke the record...

You cannot simply base such things on what your people saw they are watching.

Nonetheless it will likley end up a bit ahead in terms of attendance.

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In Canada it did rather well below expectations.

Well below TA on Friday

". I only know a few people who had plans to see Avengers on opening day"

TA Sucess is understood like this...

only 80 million Fri
126 million on Sat and Sunday combined


Sunday was 92% of Non Friday Sunday, that is the same as TDK pretty much.
Makes sense now? :funny:


Nonsense. What do you mean non-midnight Friday?

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I think we forget one key thing


What was TA biggest day?

Saturday

What does that mean?

Families...

That is why Spider Man 3 and TA broke the record...

You cannot simply base such things on what your people saw they are watching.

Nonetheless it will likley end up a bit ahead in terms of attendance.


You are contradicting yourself. You think it will be ahead in attendance and that is what people are reporting. It is not families but 3D that is making the difference.

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lol yes mom and dad can't wait to take the kids to TDKR


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I meant to point out of the film taking out the midnights performed like this

62, 69 and 57

Comparing to other films...
TDK: 48.5, 47 and 43.5


Just saying that the Sunday hold for TA is much steeper but it is actually almost as good and it was Sunday over performance that really drove the film over the hump.


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You are contradicting yourself. You think it will be ahead in attendance and that is what people are reporting. It is not families but 3D that is making the difference.



No I was pointing out people are wondering hey "how did TA get such a big gross, no one I knew wanted to see it"

Its because of the different demographics and that is shown by how the film performed over the weekend. So way more older people saw TDK opening day, but it was the families that drove the film to over perform on Sat and Sunday.


Also anyways

lets see what the numbers are first before we can start comparing the weekends.

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lol yes mom and dad can't wait to take the kids to TDKR


I actually did see families with boys in the 1700 show I went to.

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That is true

I remember watching 300 and people bringing their 8-10 year old kids...

However I think the tone of a film still has the effect on demographics overall.

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I meant to point out of the film taking out the midnights performed like this

62, 69 and 57

Comparing to other films...
TDK: 48.5, 47 and 43.5


Just saying that the Sunday hold for TA is much steeper but it is actually almost as good and it was Sunday over performance that really drove the film over the hump.


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You are contradicting yourself. You think it will be ahead in attendance and that is what people are reporting. It is not families but 3D that is making the difference.



No I was pointing out people are wondering hey "how did TA get such a big gross, no one I knew wanted to see it"

Its because of the different demographics and that is shown by how the film performed over the weekend. So way more older people saw TDK opening day, but it was the families that drove the film to over perform on Sat and Sunday.


Also anyways

lets see what the numbers are first before we can start comparing the weekends.


Oh, I thought you were just referencing OD as opposed to the whole weekend with your point about families.

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No I just find statements like "how did TA get such a big gross, no one I knew wanted to see it"
to be odd.
Are we assuming all demo's watch all record breaking films equally?
A film can be 4 demo but can be bigger with a certain demo right?

Lol every damn kid and tween went nuts for the film over the weekend. :funny:
This is a demo TDKR does not have much traction and it simply the tone of the film.

I remember going to a birthday party in the 2nd weekend for a cousin and all I hear is "Hulk Smash, Puny God!" :funny: :funny:

I went to a party last weekend however with more older people and all I hear is people talking about TDK or making TDK jokes (Batmans Voice, quoting lines)

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