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The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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BK wrote: Terribly huge budget for Witch. Maybe it has decent special effects then. The similar looking 13th Warrior had $160m budget back in 1999. So I think Season has a rather good budget for this type of film.
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Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:35 am |
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Tuukka
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:35 am Posts: 1830 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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40 million is cheap by modern standards, and Witch is a SFX-filled historical adventure. I expected it to be more expensive - this is a very reasonable budget.
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Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:32 am |
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BK
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Really? I was thinking maybe 25m.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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For a movie made by Dominic Sena ( last bomb - Whiteout) and considering how it looks and how little chance it ever had at making a lot of money...I'd say that's a whole lot. $25 million would have been more reasonable.
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Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:31 pm |
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_axiom
The Wall
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I'd say that's a whole lot. $25 million would have been more reasonable. How much does Cage earn? Probably half of that is his paycheck and the other half wouldn't be enough for this kind of a movie. BTW I just realized that parts of it were filmed in Croatia. LOL. The locals probably ripped them off.
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Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:56 am |
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mark66
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Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:41 pm Posts: 13056 Location: Augsburg (2,040 years young)
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LAT: $110m (according to Sony) GREEN HORNET ($130m other sources) $70m DILEMMA ($75m) posting.php?mode=reply&f=12&t=42920
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:09 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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Yep this was supposed to also be the costliest weekend in January in terms of openers. I still think that 110m is a little high for TGH, but with good tracking it has a shot to break even domestically. Though I am really concerned about the OS markets, the marketing seems to have been heavy but the interest might not be as huge. Anyways for 110m-130m without marketing would mean that they need 250m WW to break even and maybe even higher since marketing would have cost them a fortune Dilemma would have spent money on the paychecks itself so it is not as surprising, the release date is just ok but it can match TGH in OS total which would mean a good profitable movie by end of its theaterical run. BTW mark your link leads to post a reply for this topic. So here is what I found on LAT http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/ne ... 1865.story
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:25 pm |
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Mr. R
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:19 pm Posts: 2231
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Jack Sparrow wrote: I still think that 110m is a little high for TGH, but with good tracking it has a shot to break even domestically. Though I am really concerned about the OS markets, the marketing seems to have been heavy but the interest might not be as huge As a second-rate comicbook hero, it's good for the regular $100 m OS, but with 3D, I'm sure $150 m will happen, especially when there's not much else to see.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:22 am |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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It is already doing fairly well in Germany (for the standards of a film like this). Looking at 250,000-300,000 admissions this weekend.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:46 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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TGH seems to be doing well overall, but do remember these do not include marketing costs. If you add about 100m for marketing costs (and I probably am being considerate because the marketing push seems to be huge) the total budget would be around 210m-230m. And this would need about 500m WW total to reach that budget.
I think it will top out with 300m WW which would be good to break even for its given budget.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:30 pm |
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Mr. R
Cream of the Crop
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Jack Sparrow wrote: TGH seems to be doing well overall, but do remember these do not include marketing costs. If you add about 100m for marketing costs (and I probably am being considerate because the marketing push seems to be huge) the total budget would be around 210m-230m. And this would need about 500m WW total to reach that budget.
I think it will top out with 300m WW which would be good to break even for its given budget. No, it wouldn't. It will make the rest from DVD and stuff.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:00 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Agreed with DVD's and Blu-Ray it should get to that total, but I was only talking about only the theatrical run, which I don't think will be a financial success.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:42 am |
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Mr. R
Cream of the Crop
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Jack Sparrow wrote: Agreed with DVD's and Blu-Ray it should get to that total, but I was only talking about only the theatrical run, which I don't think will be a financial success. If you consider all the costs, you should also consider all the revenue streams, right? As I'm sure that's what the studio does giving away production and marketing budgets.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:07 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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What exactly a studio gets is something we will never know. For instance the DVD sales in OS markets are really difficult to track.
What I think for a movie to be considered a a decent success, you should recover all your costs in your theatrical run (those are probably the best numbers we will know and can calculate the studio takings). Most of what comes from DVD's can then be considered earnings. Also I still don't believe that the studios will be earning huge money with DVD's considering the costs of making + distributing to merchants and their share.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:10 am |
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Mr. R
Cream of the Crop
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Jack Sparrow wrote: What exactly a studio gets is something we will never know. Then why we even have this conversation?
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:18 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Just because we have half the numbers and we can guess what would be the profit margin. Anyways I do agree that with DVD sales the movie will break even, so I guess we are both in agreement 
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:52 am |
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livethedream
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I've read that the studio gets about $12 profit for every DVD/BD sold. That is after the manufacturing and retailer cost.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:55 pm |
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almost famous
Indiana Jones IV
Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:09 pm Posts: 1461 Location: Odessa, Ukraine
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livethedream wrote: I've read that the studio gets about $12 profit for every DVD/BD sold. That is after the manufacturing and retailer cost. That's ridiculous. Even on Amazon hot new DVD can cost around $14-15 and after some time the price usually decrease to $8-11 or even less.
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mark66
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Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:41 pm Posts: 13056 Location: Augsburg (2,040 years young)
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:56 pm |
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mark66
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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The Way Back is an independent film with lots of logos at the beginning, so no one should feel too much burn. And the fact Peter Weir delivered a full-scale, David Lean-style epic for $30 million is amazing. James L. Brooks should be in the corner crying.
I hope the movie does well overseas. I would assume it has lots of international appeal considering the cast, director, and subject matter.
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Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:06 am |
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Mr. R
Cream of the Crop
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Gunslinger wrote: The Way Back is an independent film with lots of logos at the beginning, so no one should feel too much burn. And the fact Peter Weir delivered a full-scale, David Lean-style epic for $30 million is amazing. James L. Brooks should be in the corner crying.
I hope the movie does well overseas. I would assume it has lots of international appeal considering the cast, director, and subject matter. It won't do well overseas - $20 m max.
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Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:06 am |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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Great though expected number for NSA.
And even with huge logos the budget is quite big. I mean they should have atleast tried and gone with wide release. OS I don't think so it has any chances at all, there is no Awards Buzz and no marketing what so ever for this movie. Actually aside from Internet and movie followers I am not sure anyone in OS markets know about this.
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Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:34 pm |
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mark66
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Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:41 pm Posts: 13056 Location: Augsburg (2,040 years young)
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Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:03 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
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Good but not great for TR.....I think the paychecks would have been a little higher here.
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