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Michael A
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 Re: Well...the 2009 Contenders Discussion Thread
You think Up is that secure? It seems to me Up got about the same critic reaction as wall-e, but it isn't as serious or baity material. And since that didn't get nominated....
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Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:38 am |
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xiayun
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Well, 10 nominees made it secure. It's night and day now with the expansion.
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Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:48 am |
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Groaning
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Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:17 pm Posts: 2759 Location: Austria
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John Savage wrote: You think Up is that secure? It seems to me Up got about the same critic reaction as wall-e, but it isn't as serious or baity material. And since that didn't get nominated.... The plupart of the academy basically IS Carl Fredricksen. Up is more "serious" and "baity" than Wall-E. You clearly misunderstood the film.
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Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:02 am |
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Michael A
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 am Posts: 6245
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Wall-e: a post-apocalyptic depiction of fat lazy humans destroying and abandoning earth, and the 1 robot that has a chance of reminding humans they are human, and saving the world. Up: a modern day tale about a very old man who goes to a jungle wonderland to try to honor his ambition with his dead wife and a little cub scout that ends up coming along.
Really groaning?
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Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:26 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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LOL, by your description Up sounds WAY baitier than WALL-E.
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Chippy
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I don't think he knows what "oscar bait" means...
JS...
Up is right up the Academy's alley.
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:05 am |
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_axiom
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I've been saying all along Up would've been a certain nominee even with 5 movies in the run. The switch to 10 basically made Up the only certain nominee. Wall-E is nowhere near being the bait as Up is.
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:17 am |
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Chippy
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Quote: Despite the title of this article, we didn’t dream the switch this summer to ten Best Picture nominees. No matter how bad of an idea it is (and it is bad), the switch to ten is happening. But what no one is saying, not one of the Gurus of Oscar, is that there really aren’t ten Best Picture spots up for grabs. Nor are there eight spots, or even seven.
The truth is the number of Best Picture nomination spots available currently sits around five, give or take, which is oddly enough the number we normally deal with anyway. For whatever reason, no one wants to admit that this race isn’t suddenly about ten films lucky enough to be nominated. No, what this year’s race is really about is which films remain in contention AFTER the Five films that we all know are getting nominated, are nominated. And what are those five films you ask?
The Hurt Locker – The film no one saw. Considering its Iraq War subject matter, it’s lack of box office appeal should surprise no one. But box office has never stopped films from being nominated for Best Picture. Look no further than Letters from Iwo Jima’s $2,594,775 pre-Oscar nomination gross.
Nine – The baitiest of baity Oscar films. Oscar winners headline Nine across the board and it’s from Rob Marshall, the man behind previous Best Picture winner Chicago. The easiest way to sum up why Nine will be nominated is this: Would Dreamgirls have been a Best Picture nominee with ten spots? Of course it would!
Precious – An important film supported by Oprah, one of the most powerful people on the entire planet should never ever be underestimated. Precious earned its Best Picture nomination nearly ten months ago at Sundance. Short of not being released, nothing can change its course with Oscar.
Up – There are two reasons we are even saddled with ten nominations this year. First, The Dark Knight. And the other, Pixar’s WALL-E. Is Up as good as WALL-E? No, it’s not. But where Up ranks on the Pixar scale means very little. It has great reviews, it’s the second highest grossing Pixar film in history, and it will become only the second animated film ever to be nominated for Best Picture, asterisk or not.
Up in the Air – Only one film rose above the others in the glut of September film festivals. The follow-up to Best Picture and Best Director nominee Juno, Up in the Air by its very nature appeared on the radar of those that follow the Oscar race the moment it was announced. But it wasn’t until it was actually screened this month and very much loved by many, that it secured its Best Picture spot.
So that’s it, in all its glory. These five films WILL be nominated, you can bet on it. It makes little sense to dream up wonderful scenarios of ten wickedly diverse Best Picture Nominees (Star Trek! The Cove! Ponyo!). Instead you should focus on what the other Five Best Picture nominees will be. Personally, I think it’ll be more of the same. But that’s another article for another day.
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:35 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Hmm, yeah, it's very likely for these five. Very. However, if Nine is included on pedigree alone then so should Invictus.
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:28 pm |
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Chippy
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How dare you disagree with Loyal!
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Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:06 pm |
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_axiom
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Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Hmm, yeah, it's very likely for these five. Very. However, if Nine is included on pedigree alone then so should Invictus. Nine is a musical with a pedigree. It comes in handy for Academy to mix up genres.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:44 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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be.redy wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Hmm, yeah, it's very likely for these five. Very. However, if Nine is included on pedigree alone then so should Invictus. Nine is a musical with a pedigree. It comes in handy for Academy to mix up genres. You don't get more pedigree than Clint Eastwood directing a Nelson Mandela film starring Morgan Freeman. Nine might be a musical, but I honestly think that Invictus is higher on the pedigree scale.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:55 pm |
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_axiom
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How many Oscar winners/nominees are in Nine?
Nelson Mandela biopic is more of a bait.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:24 pm |
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billybobwashere
He didn't look busy?!
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(order of likelihood for a nomination)
In: 1. Precious 2. Up in the Air Looking Good: 3. The Hurt Locker 4. Avatar 5. Invictus* 6. Nine* Maybe: 7. The Road 8. A Serious Man 9. Up 10. The Lovely Bones* Nearby: 11. Inglourious Basterds 12. Tree of Life* 13. An Education 14. Amelia* Dark Horses: 15. The White Ribbon 16. Where the Wild Things Are* 17. Broken Embraces 18. The Hangover 19. Bright Star 20. Star Trek
*need to see some sort of review (or even footage) first.
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Alex Y.
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The Men Who Stares at Goats looks like it should be mentioned as a contender.
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billybobwashere
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just saw Where the Wild Things Are;
it's great, but yeah, i doubt it's showing up in any major categories here.
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MGKC
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billybobwashere wrote: just saw Where the Wild Things Are;
it's great, but yeah, i doubt it's showing up in any major categories here. You saw it! Do tell more! 
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Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:04 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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With 91% at RT (and 93% COTC)...does An Education has a shot beyond Best Actress? (as far as noms go)
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Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:16 pm |
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xiayun
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I always thought it has an excellent chance at BP, and the box office and reviews are affirming my belief. It is at least in a much better position than Bright Star is. The screenplay nom is probably locked.
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xiayun
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xiayun
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Tree of Life won't be released this year: http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononho ... n_in_2009/. Academy is picking a bad year to expand the nominees, as we may not have 10 worthy contenders to fill the slots this year.
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Tyler
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As long as Up and Inglourious Basterds get in, I don't care.
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Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:05 pm |
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billybobwashere
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I'm really doubting Up now. It was far from the most beloved Pixar flick, and all these newer, more Oscar-y releases are taking away its thunder. I think the determining factor is whether or not Avatar gets in; if one big, epic adventure movie gets in, Up will miss out as the #11 or #12 film.
unless of course, Nine/Lovely Bones/Invictus fail.
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Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:06 pm |
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Chippy
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That paragraph made no sense whatsoever.
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Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:00 pm |
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Disney needs to re-release Up for an Oscar run this fall, even if limited. Use the balloon controversy!
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Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:46 pm |
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