I've learned to take the Jeff thing week-to-week. He's been leaving WWE since Wrestlemania, apparently just after every PPV, only to return each time, most recently with a World Heavyweight Championship.

It amazes me that the main-event of Smackdown this week (to air tomorrow night) involves Jeff/Matt/Morrison vs. Punk and the Hart Dynasty. Meanwhile, back on RAW, we just have a revolving rotation involving Orton/Cena/Triple H/Legacy and now HBK. It must suck to be on the RAW roster and not be a part of that short list.

Any faction will be compared to NWO. Yes, Vince Russo is booking this, but they're not EXACTLY the same. It's not like 75% of the roster is part of some break-off group and everything is focused on them. Sometimes it's working and sometimes it's not. But there's MUCH more in TNA than just the Mafia/Originals storyline, like the X-Division, which has been a roll lately and has new people coming in (like Elijah Burke, who just debuted as "The Pope" D'Angelo Dinero, which is an awesome character), a women's division that isn't in shambles like another promotion's is, and a tag team division that's been on top for months.

At the very least, this whole thing should be coming to an end at Bound For Glory in October, hopefully with AJ Styles as champion (though if it's Bobby Lashley I think I'll be done with TNA for a while).


For real. It actually looked like they were going to do something with people like MVP and Evan Bourne, but... no. It's the Legacy/Triple H/John Cena show, with Hornswoggle vs. Chavo thrown in every. single. week. I love Orton, but Raw is really a joke now (especially with the celebrity hosts, which is gonna go on for a while apparently). Smackdown's where it's at, and even ECW has some good stuff going on now (I'm a big Zack Ryder fan, heh).

Legacy is not working for me. At all. They just don't gel as a stable for me. It's the same thing every week: Orton wrestles, against his will, only to have Cody and Ted make the save for him. No one has any room to shine on their own. Not even Randy. He always worked best on his own.

It's sad, but I actually prefer DX to the same ol' Triple H we've seen since March. Too bad it comes at the expense of Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase.

TNA has beaten Raw and Smackdown for the second week in ratings (UK) . . hmmm

Haha at the moment TNA shits ALL over WWE. Ill try find you a link

here you go - http://www.sescoops.com/wwe/ECW_Rating_ ... ings.shtml

It's all true BKB, iMPACT! has been doing this over there for some time now.

At least TNA is actually getting the young guys in the big storylines and main event picture to build them... case in point: Matt Morgan in the main event at this month's PPV. What's going on with Raw? The constant John Cena-Randy Orton-Triple H (40 years old!) Show, week after week. They've had their chance to pull the trigger on people like MVP and they blew it. Even Jericho said in a recent interview that they really need to do some star building.

As the Hardy Party slips out the front door, Grandpa Taker slips in the backdoor and, for no reason at all, chokeslams CM Punk. Is the Dead Man that obsessed with being World Champion that he attacks someone for no reason? I can turn a blind eye to illogical wrestling twists, but this was just a silly way of making SSlam fans happy.

Jeff Hardy officially left last night, paving the way for Undertaker winning the World Heavyweight Championship in his first match back at Breaking Point, after a six month hiatus. Unless anyone thinks Punk will actually make Taker submit (it's a submission-only PPV)? Hahahahaha.

Hahahaha.

Hahaha.

Ha.

Can we say this is gonna be the most predicable match ever?.

and IF Punk makes taker submit (We all know he won't), WWE will lose all of its credibility.

Unless there are DQs and countouts (hadn't thought of it). Then Punk will probably keep retaining by those until Survivor Series. I don't know, just seems like the easy way out giving Taker the win, now that I think about it. Too bad though that they were able to build Punk into a main-eventer, only to knock him down by way of the Dead Man.

Apparently, there will be a Jeff Hardy DVD in the next few weeks. Fingers crossed it's a three-discer! I mean, if they can fill a three-disc set for Kane, they must have enough content for Jeff.

Which brings me to wondering when Jeff will return. I hope it's not a two year hiatus like Jericho. I mean, I don't want to burst Jeff's bubble, but he would be only the second person from wrestling to make it outside of wrestling, and even The Rock is struggling to be a legitimate actor, bouncing from kids film to kids film. He's not going to get a whole pilot for a reality show off the ground (that's what he's pursuing now), let alone a successful series about him.

Punk will retain via DQ no other possible outcome for me. Errr and Jeff is trying to make a go of it outside wrestling?? Love the lad but his skills are in the ring not on the acting stage.

I'm feeling Punk by DQ as well. It's way too early for him to drop it (though so was losing to Jeff at NOC and getting it back a month later). They need to push this feud to Survivor Series and have Taker put Punk over to solidify him as a mega heel.

http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/13797

According to this, TNA has the worst ratings in a long long time and by no means am I a WWE bandwagoner and I also believe they screw up alot to, except for SMACKDOWN, but no way is TNA even close to beating the WWE according to you.. This is merely more of a wrestling fans appreciation of TNA than WWE and that I can accept, but the ratings for TNA Suck ass apparently.. Not even Bobby Lashley will save TNA


Last week's wrestling-fueled edition of iMPACT actually scored a 0.96 cable rating, nabbing the program's lowest number in nearly a year. The last time iMPACT scored a rating this low was on October 9, 2008 when it drew a 0.95 rating. Compared to the previous's week show, iMPACT took a 15.5% plunge in the ratings. The show scored a 0.93 rating in the first hour and a 0.99 in the second hour.

It would appear that iMPACT's rating drop can be attributed to the adults 18-49 demographic as it drew a paltry 0.54. iMPACT scored its highest rating in the final quarter-hour of the show and its lowest rating in the first quarter hour. The show finished with a 1.04 rating for the main event featuring Hernandez vs. Sting





Something also tells me that with ratings this low, STINGS retirement at TNA's BOUND FOR GLORY next month will be a really quiet, non-existent one unlike when a wrestler retires in the WWE like Ric Flair

You seem to lack basic reading skills bkb. I said TNA has been beating RAW and Smackdown in rating in the UK for the last few weeks - not in the US.

i think TNA were getting their best ratings when sting was champ, now that hes leaving it probably wont get much better. If Kurt does leave in november (or whenever his contract is up) then it could be a wrap for TNA.
If vince was smart he would pick up sting on a short term contract and have him work an angle with undertaker running up to wrestlemania. That would easily be better than the way things are heading now on smackdown.

Just been reading that apparently Jeff was offered better deals than undertaker/hbk to stay, not having to work house shows at all and just do the live/taped shows.

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I will say this about last week's rating - most sites are saying it was that low due to a name change that prevented many DVRs to record it, in addition to football that night (I'm not sure who was playing). They've been doing up to 1.4s consistently, which puts them in the ECW area (they beat them a lot, and they always beat Superstars). And the UK thing is true, in addition to beating the E often in other international markets. They even just announced an Australia house show tour for February/March 2010.

I honestly can't wait for Sting to leave, and Angle needs to take a backseat. They have the talent, they have good storylines... but most of the focus is on the older guys. People are getting tired of it, I think (WWE will hopefully have this problem soon as the John Cena-Triple H-Randy Orton Show has overstayed its welcome). They're starting to get the young guns in main events and such now, which is great if they continue with it (and do things like putting the World title on AJ Styles).

It's good to have the older guys for their names, but they don't need to be the focus of the shows. They need to be putting over the rookies to help build them. I think they should given Hogan whatever he wants money-wise, because he's a huge name and would probably help ratings/PPV sales/etc. more than Sting and Angle ever did... BUT he doesn't need to come in and be hotshotted the title. Have him bring up one of the younger guys, maybe do a tag team deal against a heel veteran and his "apprentice" too. Stuff like that would be perfect.

You know, I kind of feared Jeff would be in some sort of drug trouble, post-WWE. I didn't think he would have a drug explosion.