Well...the 2009 Contenders Discussion Thread - NEW POLL
Well...the 2009 Contenders Discussion Thread - NEW POLL
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Dr. Lecter
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be.redy wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: AnJon Lyrik Chigurh wrote: I think looking at the reviews it had, that was rather short-sighted of us. Well, I don't remember what I thought of it... I mean, before the reviews, just the mere concept of this film does not scream Oscar bait. The Reader does A Beautiful Mind does Ray does Memoirs of a Geisha does Nine does This...doesn't. One of those movies wasn't nominated despite screaming Oscar bait. What about the concept isn't baity? Dirty cops and mobsters trying to figure out the moles at both ends. From the guy who brought Goodfellas, a highly redarded mob movie that was nominated for BP and BD among other noms. And it was based on a wildly popular and pretty great (if not one of the greatest) Asian flick(s in recent history). We can agree to disagree, but to me this one would've checked out as an Oscar movie. I'll say again, maybe the problem was at the time that people haven't seen the original, so maybe they weren't aware of how good the movie could turn out to be. I suppose Donnie Brasco is Oscar bait too then?
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That year you had L.A. Confidential. Granted, it's not the same type, but basically its basic outline is about the mob too.
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Dr. Lecter
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be.redy wrote: That year you had L.A. Confidential. Granted, it's not the same type, but basically its basic outline is about the mob too. L.A. Confidential was a period flick and a neo-noir. That helped a ton.
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Dr. Lecter wrote: be.redy wrote: That year you had L.A. Confidential. Granted, it's not the same type, but basically its basic outline is about the mob too. L.A. Confidential was a period flick and a neo-noir. That helped a ton. It did. I noted that, but still, if we're talking basic outlines, it's still about cops and mobs. Departed had other bonuses, as previously mentioned (overdue director, shitload of actor pedigree)...
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Tyler
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Yeah, that's the key, folks. Scorsese was building on a metric fuckton of momentum.
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Inglourious Basterds will not only premiere at Cannes but its also in competition.
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Shack
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Departed was seen as a big Oscar player until the trailer/major tv marketing came out and people began to say it was a box-office first thriller... well except like me and Maverikk.
But it was up there with Flags and Dreamgirls originally, I remember in the early blurb in the "Awards" section on the index it was like the first name listed. Uber due Scorsese + Nicholson/Leo + Mob = Oscar. And everyone could see Scorsese winning after he finally went back to his roots style instead of for bait film would make a lot of poetic sense
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Tony Gilroy's other film State of Play opens in about 2 weeks. I have it listed in the poll but I've yet to really hear any buzz about it.
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Shack
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It looks really bad
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Dr. Lecter
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Shack wrote: Departed was seen as a big Oscar player until the trailer/major tv marketing came out and people began to say it was a box-office first thriller... well except like me and Maverikk.
And me. But it still wasn't Oscar bait.
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Don't know where else to put this http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/g ... -1st-time/Quote: HOLLYWOOD, CA -- (April 02, 2009) - Jorge Camara, President of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association, announced the timetable for "The 67th Annual Golden Globe Awards" to be broadcast in HD Sunday, January 17, 2010 from 5-8 PM PT and 8-11 PM ET live from The Beverly Hilton on NBC."In this age when news is disseminated with increasing rapidity, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association is delighted to announce that this year's Golden Globe Awards telecast will be aired live nationwide," said Camara. "For the first time, viewers on the west coast will see the winners announced at the same time as the rest of the country, with no tape delay."
Key dates for the Golden Globe Awards timetable are as follows:
October 30, 2009 -- Final date for press conferences for Television entries November 6, 2009 -- Deadline for submission of Golden Globe entry forms November, 2009 -- Cecil B. DeMille Award/Miss Golden Globe announced December 3, 2009 -- Nomination ballots mailed out to all HFPA members December 9, 2009 -- Final screening date for Motion Pictures December 10, 2009 -- Final date for Motion Picture press conferences December 11, 2009 -- Deadline for receipt of nomination ballots December 15, 2009 -- Nomination Announcement of Golden Globe Awards December 18, 2009 -- Deadline for receipt of media credential applications December 28, 2009 -- Final ballots mailed to all HFPA members January 6, 2010 -- Deadline for receipt of publicist credential applications January 13, 2010 -- Deadline for receipt by Ernst & Young of final ballots January 17, 2010 -- Presentation of "The 67th Annual Golden Globe Awards"
"The 67th Annual Golden Globe Awards" will be seen in more than 160 countries worldwide and is one of the few awards ceremonies that span both television and motion picture achievements. The special will be produced by Dick Clark Productions in association with the Hollywood Foreign Press Association.
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I like that. I can watch 24 premiere easily. 
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Michael A
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Fuck the Golden Globes, I will watch them simply because they are the only wide broadcasted forrunners to the oscars, but they still suck.
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Monsieur Marin wrote: Fuck the Golden Globes, I will watch them simply because they are the only wide broadcasted forrunners to the oscars, but they still suck. The Globes are going to be huge this year. Nine with a record number of nominations. ALL HAIL THE BEST MUSICAL OR COMEDY CATEGORY. 
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Word from Whatever Works, which screened at ShoWest http://filmexperience.blogspot.com/2009 ... owest.htmlQuote: Patricia Clarkson storms into the movie after approximately 40 minutes, and plays a role in many ways comparable to Penélope Cruz's tempestuous Oscar-winning Maria Elena. While I was initially skeptical of Allen's treatment of Wood as a young Lolita, Clarkson actually plays the much more sexualized character. After showing up on Boris's doorstep in a hot pink ensemble (scrunchy included!) fit for the Southern pageant circuit, she is quickly awakened to the culture of New York. Naturally, this involves sex and art. In an interesting inversion of the much discussed relationship between ScarJo, Javier Bardem, and Penélope Cruz in Vicky Cristina Barcelona, Clarkson moves in with two men without giving it a second thought. Her character transitions from praising Jesus to opening an exhibit of nude collages. Clarkson is dynamic and sexy and once again demonstrates her unbeatable range. I don't think it is any stretch to consider her worthy of this year's Oscar race. Woody loves women and the Oscars loves them too, especially in the supporting race Dianne Wiest - Best Supporting Actress, Hannah and Her Sisters Won Dianne Wiest - Best Supporting Actress, Bullets Over Broadway Won Mira Sorvino - Best Supporting Actress, Mighty Aphrodite Won Penélope Cruz - Best Supporting Actress, Vicky Cristina Barcelona Won Maureen Stapleton - Best Supporting Actress, Interiors Nom Mariel Hemingway - Best Supporting Actress, Manhattan Nom Judy Davis - Best Supporting Actress, Husbands and Wives Nom Jennifer Tilly - Best Supporting Actress, Bullets Over Broadway Nom Samantha Morton - Best Supporting Actress, Sweet and Lowdown Nom
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Nathaniel R over at The Film Experience has his early predictions up http://filmexperience.blogspot.com/2009 ... cture.htmlBest FilmAn Education The Lovely Bones Nine Public Enemies Untitled Nelson Mandela Film Best DirectorCameron Eastwood Gilliam (!) Jackson Mann
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Gilliam could use a hit.
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Michael A
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loyalfromlondon wrote: Nathaniel R over at The Film Experience has his early predictions up http://filmexperience.blogspot.com/2009 ... cture.htmlBest FilmAn Education The Lovely Bones Nine Public Enemies Untitled Nelson Mandela Film Best DirectorCameron Eastwood Gilliam (!) Jackson Mann Avatar won't get a BP but Camera will get a BD nod? Hmm... Public Enemies will not be a contender come fall let alone winter what is "An Education"? Isn't the "untitled" Nelson Mandela project directed by Clint called The Human Factor?
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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John Savage wrote: loyalfromlondon wrote: Nathaniel R over at The Film Experience has his early predictions up http://filmexperience.blogspot.com/2009 ... cture.htmlBest FilmAn Education The Lovely Bones Nine Public Enemies Untitled Nelson Mandela Film Best DirectorCameron Eastwood Gilliam (!) Jackson Mann Avatar won't get a BP but Camera will get a BD nod? Hmm... Public Enemies will not be a contender come fall let alone winter what is "An Education"? Isn't the "untitled" Nelson Mandela project directed by Clint called The Human Factor? The Human Factor is not the title. An Education tore up Sundance and the lead actress' work was compared to that of Page in Juno but actually great.
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I seriously doubt Cameron will get a BD nom. We've been over this with TDK and KK...and a lot of us (including me) got burnt taking the bait.
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AnJon Lyrik Chigurh wrote: I seriously doubt Cameron will get a BD nom. We've been over this with TDK and KK...and a lot of us (including me) got burnt taking the bait. Never say never. There are a billion variables in play for Cameron and his film. We won't know until we know.
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Michael A
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Avatar is a futuristic sci-fi film, so that's dangerous, but focusing on a love story and the complications of love&war will be big oscar bait, and if his work is half as impressive as reports from early footage say, than I wouldn't be shocked at a BD nod, but I would think if Cameron gets one his film will too.
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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Michael A
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loyalfromlondon wrote: The Human Factor is not the title. An Education tore up Sundance and the lead actress' work was compared to that of Page in Juno but actually great. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1057500/its not?
_________________Mr. R wrote: Malcolm wrote: You seem to think threatening violence against people is perfectly okay because you feel offended by their words, so that's kind of telling in itself. Exactly. If they don't know how to behave, and feel OK offending others, they get their ass kicked, so they'll think next time before opening their rotten mouths.
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