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 The Dark Knight 

What grade would you give this film?
A 82%  82%  [ 138 ]
B 11%  11%  [ 19 ]
C 3%  3%  [ 5 ]
D 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
F 3%  3%  [ 5 ]
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 The Dark Knight 
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so yeah i just watched it again last night. It's even better the second time. Easily the greatest superhero movie of all time. It's a shame Ledger gives such a great performance because it completely overshadows a fantastic performance by Eckhart.

Still an A-.

1. TDK - A-
2. Spidey - A-
3. Spidey 2 - A-
4. Batman Begins - A-
5. X2 - A-
6. Superman Returns/Iron Man - A-


Easily the greatest superhero movie of all time....and yet it shares an 'A-' grade with six other superhero films?

Just go ahead and get rid of that '-'. You know you want to.

Superman Returns is also no A-, that film is more boring than Kong (2005)

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SUPERMAN RETURNS AND KING KONG ARE AMAZING FILMS!!!

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What's truly amazing I think is how DIFFERENT BB and TDK, and how both work so well on their own different level.



Your right, BB was slighlty bland at times and lack charasma, while TDK has very charasmatic and always vivid :P.

But seriously, you're very much right, and the best sequels of all time are different from their first film.

(and to add on a note, Back to the Future Part 2 and Dead Man's Chest were very different in tone, theme, and story structure, and although they aren't highly regarded, I am a huge fan of both)

as am I, DMC is criminally under rated.

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SUPERMAN RETURNS AND KING KONG ARE AMAZING FILMS!!!

They would be amazing if they were not so damn boring.

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SUPERMAN RETURNS AND KING KONG ARE AMAZING FILMS!!!


Superman Returns was horrible.


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Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
Magnus wrote:
What's truly amazing I think is how DIFFERENT BB and TDK, and how both work so well on their own different level.



Your right, BB was slighlty bland at times and lack charasma, while TDK has very charasmatic and always vivid :P.

But seriously, you're very much right, and the best sequels of all time are different from their first film.

(and to add on a note, Back to the Future Part 2 and Dead Man's Chest were very different in tone, theme, and story structure, and although they aren't highly regarded, I am a huge fan of both)

as am I, DMC is criminally under rated.


I actually prefer DMC to AWE. AWE was too much talking and way too long.


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Speevy wrote:
Munk·E wrote:
SUPERMAN RETURNS AND KING KONG ARE AMAZING FILMS!!!


Superman Returns was horrible.


You're horrible.

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I agree that BB and TDK totally different Batman movies.

I rewatched BB today (ON BLU RAY!!!!) and I have to say Cillian Murphy was sooooo good as Scarcrow/Crane. I always overlook him in this movie. I mean he doesnt even come close to Ledger in this one but he does a DAMN good job for how little he is in it. I do want to see him again in the next one. Even if he has a small scene like in TDK

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Speevy wrote:
BJ wrote:
Darth Indiana Bond wrote:
Magnus wrote:
What's truly amazing I think is how DIFFERENT BB and TDK, and how both work so well on their own different level.



Your right, BB was slighlty bland at times and lack charasma, while TDK has very charasmatic and always vivid :P.

But seriously, you're very much right, and the best sequels of all time are different from their first film.

(and to add on a note, Back to the Future Part 2 and Dead Man's Chest were very different in tone, theme, and story structure, and although they aren't highly regarded, I am a huge fan of both)

as am I, DMC is criminally under rated.


I actually prefer DMC to AWE. AWE was too much talking and way too long.

AWE is easily the weakest Pirates film, it drops in quality every time I view it.

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I agree that BB and TDK totally different Batman movies.

I rewatched BB today (ON BLU RAY!!!!) and I have to say Cillian Murphy was sooooo good as Scarcrow/Crane. I always overlook him in this movie. I mean he doesnt even come close to Ledger in this one but he does a DAMN good job for how little he is in it. I do want to see him again in the next one. Even if he has a small scene like in TDK

Im still debating about getting BB on Blu-Ray, I have it in HD already but I really love my PS3 its much easier with one drive that can do it all.

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BJ wrote:
MovieGeek wrote:
I agree that BB and TDK totally different Batman movies.

I rewatched BB today (ON BLU RAY!!!!) and I have to say Cillian Murphy was sooooo good as Scarcrow/Crane. I always overlook him in this movie. I mean he doesnt even come close to Ledger in this one but he does a DAMN good job for how little he is in it. I do want to see him again in the next one. Even if he has a small scene like in TDK

Im still debating about getting BB on Blu-Ray, I have it in HD already but I really love my PS3 its much easier with one drive that can do it all.



It looks so incredible on Blu Ray. Plus you get the first 6 minutes of TDK on it.

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Your right, BB was slighlty bland at times and lack charasma, while TDK has very charasmatic and always vivid :P.


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The only thing I don't like about TDK is that its giving people this sudden reason to hate on BB.

I also hate how people are saying that TDK is the first comic-book film that is going to make the movies start taking themselves more seriously when BB did it three years ago. Both the makers of Iron Man and Hulk have even stated that BB had an effect on the way they made their movies. Faverau said that he was only able to get that great cast for Iron Man because the cast of BB worked so well. Norton has even said that when they rebooting Hulk, they looked at BB and saw how it restarted that franchise (and while TIH wasn't a BB, I think the directors cut probably would be a lot closer to BB).

BB to me was monumental, ground-breaking for comic-book movies that changed the genre. Hell, it probably goes beyond comic-books. BB succuess helped Casino Royale attempt in its reboot, as that was another franchise that had become to over-the-top and had to get more grounded with reality and depth.

TDK is groundbreaking as well because I feel it has gone to an even further extreme than BB did, and its BO succuess probably will influence a lot of future projects. But fact is, BB was ground-breaking too three years ago.


absolutely correct, BB is great and I view it at least 3 times a year, the film though different than TDK delivers just as perfectly.

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Saw it again today. God this film is amazing.


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BB to me was monumental, ground-breaking for comic-book movies that changed the genre. Hell, it probably goes beyond comic-books. BB succuess helped Casino Royale attempt in its reboot, as that was another franchise that had become to over-the-top and had to get more grounded with reality and depth.



Is that possible with Casino Royale coming out only a year after Batman Begins?

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Saw it again today. God this film is amazing.

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I found the Joker paraphrasing Stalin to be funny. I guess if you are going to link yourself to pure evil can't get much better!

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Did anyone else notice this bit of social commentary?

That whole disappearing pencil trick scene...

I'm pretty sure that was a metaphor for America's increasing lack of educational standards. Maybe even a commentary on Bush's "No Child Left Behind" program which everyone knows is just a massive failure.

Just keep noticing new things about this movie the more I watch.

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^ If i could REAACCCH...


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I find it quite odd that the 2 best movies this year both have the "main" characters saying...

TA DA!

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I think you're on to something there Squee, and I also think Batman's sidetrip to Hong Kong is clearly a commentary on America's failing relations with China and the inevitable conflict that will brew from that.

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I think you're on to something there Squee, and I also think Batman's sidetrip to Hong Kong is clearly a commentary on America's failing relations with China and the inevitable conflict that will brew from that.


Did you also notice that all of Batman's toys he used while in China were made in America?

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Since we're overanalyzing, I thought that the fact that Nolan used some of society's generalized fears to build suspense was interesting and thought more people would bring it up. For example....

The big, scary, black inmate on one of the ferries. I felt Nolan was using the general belief that people are afraid of such men to enhance the suspense of whether or not he was going to blow up the boat. I loved what Nolan ended up doing there because it defied what Nolan wants you to expect (ie that he's gonna blow up the other ferry): still, it was an awkward moment I thought.


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Its not just the pencil scene. its also the hospital blowing up, symbolizing the fact that kids aspiring to be doctors should find a safer line of work.


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Its not just the pencil scene. its also the hospital blowing up, symbolizing the fact that kids aspiring to be doctors should find a safer line of work.


Which was also symbolized in the Pencil scene... don't become a mobster... you can get a pencil through your head.

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