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I know we had that other thread for the election episode but we needed a more official thread.

Anyway, reviews are starting to come out and they're great so far.

http://tvline.com/2017/09/21/will-grace ... -season-9/

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/09/will-a ... 201878981/


Apparently it's the quality of the earlier seasons. Guess this long break helped. I'm really excited for its return. I watched the whole first season on Monday with a friend who had never seen the show. She's now determined to watch every season before the new season next week. I couldn't sleep this morning so I watched a few on Hulu. Happy all of the seasons were added to that yesterday. It should have been done sooner though so people could binge it before it started back up. 8 seasons is a lot to watch in a week.

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Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:05 pm
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Jack's put on so much weight that he can hardly turn around in his chair. The Election episode wasn't that great. I think this is a bad idea. When they do such reunion episodes or new seasons after many years hiatus it usually stinks.

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Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:02 pm
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I'm very curious how ratings will be for the premiere of this. I think it's a mistake not airing the first episode after The Voice or This Is Us.

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The big four are always going to be fun to watch, but the political humor is already tiresome. They were on the air through most of the Bush Jr administration and seemed okay with that. I hope they focus on world class sex puns like God intended.


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I'm not sure if I liked or hated how they wrote off the actual ending of the show (which I did find to be a good ending), I guess that will depend on the "new" ending they give the show. But the first episode was very underwhelming. There's something off with Debra Messing. It's like she's trying to do Grace, but forgot how to. Where are those crazy eyes girl? Too much botox/work done?

The political humor was a complete miss. Yeah, we get it Trump is an idiot. And the went for the most obvious things. 0 creativity there. Cheetos? That one was old in 2016.

Karen (as always) stole the show.


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Also why wasn't there any update on Rosario? She's coming back right?


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I liked the premiere well enough. The cast still has it (though I agree Grace needs to get crazy) but the writing could be better. Hopefully they'll get back into the swing of things rather quickly. It's definitely great to have the show back. It feels comforting and I missed the characters. I'm looking forward to the next episode.

Also, I'm satisfied enough with how they brush off the original finale. That was just a depressing way to end the show. I couldn't believe they'd go that many years without talking. I wouldn't want them to.

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This won't be going away anytime soon. Obviously since it was already renewed for a second season, but it's going to stick around longer than that. And I'm sure they'll increase the episode order for this season.

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What does everyone think the second episode will drop to in the ratings? I know a decent amount of people were annoyed by the Trump bashing and said they wouldn't watch anymore but I can't see many Trump fans being W&G fans anyway. I'm thinking this next episode will do 7-8 million viewers.

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Tonight's episode was better than the premiere. I wasn't a big fan of the opening scene but it definitely improved after that. Megan was the best. She's still so great at being Karen. Easily the most impressive of the cast at the moment. Sadly I'm not really feeling Messing or even Hayes yet.

I thought the ending was definitely cute.

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Yikes - that second episode was awful! I would've thought the writers would be refreshed and ready to go after a decade hiatus, but this script stunk. Perhaps the worst episode of the entire 196 made so far. *F*


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Nah. The second episode wasn't an improvement. Karen is still the only cast member that hits it out of the ballpark. Eric as Will is good too, but Will has always been a bit of a regular character so he's not that hard to pull off. But boy is Debra completely off her mark as Grace. What the hell happened there? The biggest problem with Hayes is that his voice is a bit too deep now but outside of that I think he's doing OK job so far.

I don't feel like so far these two episodes are making the revival worthwhile. The plots are still very much 90's/early 00's sitcom style and feel a bit outdated. Watching a rerun would probably be a better experience.


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What were the plots for the first two episodes? I looked on Wikipedia, but it doesn't give a short synopsis. It relays scene-for-scene, and I don't want to know it in THAT much detail. And what sort of plots do you feel there should be?

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The third episode with Leo was just as weak as the first two - I hope the writers can find their legs before too long.


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Stop watching it mate. You're obviously not having a good time.

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TV series often take quite a while to get their bearings. For example, ST:TNG took two whole seasons to become great. I retain faith that the producers and James Burrows (who has directed every single episode of the series) will soon grab the reins, and ride this thoroughbred back into the race.


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You soldier.

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I am very selective with TV shows - the only new ones I am watching are The Orville and ST: Discovery, plus new episodes of Will & Grace, Big Bang Theory, and Outlander.


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Episode 3 is my least favorite so far. But I'll take lesser Will & Grace over no Will & Grace at all. I'm just in awe of Mullally. She's as brilliant as ever as Karen. It just pains me Messing is doing so poorly. Not sure what she has to do to get her Grace mojo back.

Even though it's kind of underwhelming I still look forward to watching it every week.

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I don't think she's awful, I just think she has tried the hardest of the four to make a career outside of Will & Grace, so it's hard to lapse back into this role. Gillian Anderson was similar on the new X-Files.

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She's not awful awful, but Grace is not a hard role to pull off IMHO. Any lesser actress could "get it" by episode 3. The thing with Debra is that she just has the face of Grace which should make it easier for her. But it just kind of seems she's not that into it anymore.


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I don't know. I think she was pretty brilliant on the original series. She brought a real energy to it. I know she's older now but she seems really tired.

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Finally! The 'Grandpa Jack' episode fully achieved the true Will and Grace vibe - it could easily have been an episode in the original run. Outstanding.


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Yeah I quite enjoyed this episode. Probably the best yet this season.

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It was still a bit meh for me, but this is the first episode where W&G revival made sense in the context of tackling things that really matter but aren't too on the nose (like Trump in the first episode). This is also the first time that changes in their lives felt organic (Jack not knowing he's a grandpa), unlike the rewrite of the original series ending in the first episode or Grace's divorce in the previous episode.


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