The 'Big Brother: All-Stars' Thread
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Cotton
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Ugh.
Janelle is so overrated in my opinion. 
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:01 pm |
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Libs
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Cotton wrote: Ugh. Janelle is so overrated in my opinion. 
We know 
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:02 pm |
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haerpinot
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You know what, having the same alliance dominate week after week makes for some boring gameplay but if the other houseguests are stupid enough to keep letting them win it then more power to them. I'm now fine with S6 dominating since some of the others (namely Erika & Marcellas) are complete idiots, and hopefully will be taken out sooner than later. It's just mind-boggling that those two would not take out S6, if they had used their brains then their two votes would have knocked Kaysar/Janelle out of the game. If only they knew that the S6 were actually considering putting one of them up as a replacement nominee last week! Gosh to be so horribly clueless. Marcellas is perhaps the most clueless since he decided to take out Booger over his arch nemesis Danielle, who is still gunning for him.
And as much as I want to see the game shift, I don't want it to be at Janelle's expense, which I'm afraid would happen if Booger had won HoH for instance. I'd just like to see at least one of Howie (amusing, but too boneheaded & to this day he still goes on about his irrational Nakomis hate once in awhile), James (thinks he's some sort of genius when he is nowhere near that), and Kaysar (I like him but come on, he played twice last year and didn't even make the jury! I can't get over that, that is the epitome of suckage at this game) go soon.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:34 pm |
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I'm a huge fan of the BB6 crew, but I was even cheering for them to lose on the HOH. They're great, but I mean, its the same thing every week!  Now they have 4/10 of the final 10 spots (assuming there aren't returns by evictees), and 3/7 of the jury if they are all evicted before the final 2. Marcellas is now more with them I think, so that's 5/10, and 4/7 of the jury that they'll control. Erika I think is also with them, but pretends to float, with her uncontroversial eliminating of George in the HOH competition. With Erika, they have 6 of the final 10, and 5/7 of the jury if those 5 are all eliminated. Erika is a floater, but she's always leaned more on their side (of course they've been winning). Janelle has these people as choices to nominate:
Will, Mike, Diane, Danielle, Chicken George, Erika
After last week, I doubt she's going to waste a nomination on George. I also don't see her getting Erika. She'll probably put up Mike and Danielle I think, and then put up Will in their place. James I think will let his teammates get rid of players, and then turn on them with Danielle and Mike/Will (whoever's left. The first HOH that the other side wins, it seems like Janelle is going. She's won 2 HOH's, and 1 veto in just 4 weeks, and she also is the glue of that alliance.
Also, Erika, PLEASE do something.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:41 pm |
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Cotton
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Does Marcellas even know he's a floater? He seems to think he's in pretty tight with S6 (especially with Janelle), and he doesn't really bother with the other side that much (not that I know of).
Out of the four floaters (Danni, Marcellas, Chicken George, and Erika), Danni is the only one who seem to be "floating" equally from side to side.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:46 pm |
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The BB6 people have to realize that most people threw that competition. I don't think they do. The producers designed this game where the people who other hg's did not want to win, would get voted out early on. Instead, the floaters controlled most of the game, and they have to realize that the 3 people on Chilltown (looks like Diane, Will, Mike) and 4 people of bb6 (James, howie, kaysar, janelle), its leaning in one direction (ie in bb6's direction), thus, the floaters have to work extra hard to make both teams on a level playing field, so that they evict each other out (ex. Janelle, Kaysar, Will evicted). This way, the floaters might not even make final 5 if they don't get into the game more, particularly Erika. If BB6 keeps winning, and their alliance does too (ex. Marcellas, and if Erika does nothing, and throws competitions), then Erika is the first gone out of that group of 6. She needs to even the teams out, and I think there is a limit to how much floating you can do, as its reached a point this week, where Chilltown could be 2 people, BB6 will be four (+1 since Marcellas is VERY with them now I think, since Jase pushed Marcellas in that direction, as did his need to be protected from Danielle), so that leaves 3 other people, floaters, Erika, Danielle, and George. Erika and Danielle need to make a move asap next week, otherwise the jury will be BB6 majority, or one of them will have a very good chance at final 2. I don't see Marcellas nominating Kaysar, or Janelle. He might nominate James, but I dont think he would want to upset Janelle, and Kaysar, so wouldn't yet. Its going to be a 5 vs 2 match up after this week, and then 3 floaters. Erika doesn't want to join with one team for sure, but another week, and it could be 5/9 BB6 + Marcellas, so Danielle in particular I think needs to make a move, and get a BB6 person out next week. Erika and George won't do anything I think, so its down to Danielle, Mike/Will (whoever makes it this week), and Diane. I remember that Diane was pretty good at endurance competitions, so I think pre-jury, she could take HOH next week. But one of those 3 has to get HOH next week.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:01 pm |
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greasedlightning
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I'm sick of S6 winning. At this point, they won the game. When Will gets voted out, the season is done for me. I'm planning on canceling my feeds and probably just tuning in to the Thursday shows since everything is just summed up nicely.
I really thoguht this HoH competition was geared toward S6 winning. They had a clear advantage. Janelle, Marcellas, Erika, Kaysar, and Howie were all going towards a common goal - getting Chilltown Out. Diane, Will, Boogie all were going for getting S6 out. Danielle I think purposely did not answer a question as to not pick a side since she's floating between both, and Chicken George just didn't have a shot. The producers had to have known that the floaters would NEVER take out S6 in that competition because it would defeat the purpose of floating b/c it would show where their allegiances lie. As soon as Julie said that it would be eliminating, I knew S6 would win... it was 7-3 basically. They had the advantage. Past week five, Boogie, Will, Diane, and Chicken George might as well just pack up and get the hell out because BB6 will control the jury votes and they will never vote for any of those four because they hate them. Boogie and Will don't have a shot in hell even if they get to final two because everyone always gripes about they are already billionaires and don't need the money. They don't like Diane and S6 wanted her gone a week ago, and it's clear how they feel about Chicken George. If S6 is in tact at the end of eviction five, everyone needs to realize they're pretty much playing to lose.
At this point, the only one I like who I think could win is Danielle. Maybe even James. He's the only BB6er that I can take.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:13 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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I dunno grease, remember last season when everyone thought the "Sovereign 6" had the game in the bag...and then Maggie won the HOH and everything got shot to shit for them.
Honestly, I think once Janelle or Kaysar leaves, the alliance will fracture.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:27 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Interesting. When I first heard the game, I thought it was clear the producers were trying to make it harder for the BB6 alliance to win, because you can no longer win on merit alone. BB6 was the most obvious target in a competition like that. The house is supposed to be gearing against BB6 to knock one of them out and soften their alliance. Everyone has recognized that (even Erika), but a few have chosen not to act on it because their wimps, and the rest just weren't good enough. Period, in my mind. It's not the producers fault. I was expecting BB6 to finally lose HOH this week. For me, it's surprising they won.
Diane, Danielle, Mike, and George didn't work hard enough. I can give Boogie a break, because he was knocked out right away, but Diane (I thought she was going to crush the house, she said?), George (who proved last episode he can go as far as he wants if he has the motivation) and even Danielle (who should have rocked in this competition) didn't even get a single answer in. And Will, who did work hard, made a stupid mistake and knocked out Howie instead of Janelle or Kaysar. Howie is dumb, he's not going to do well in that type of competition. Knocking out Kaysar or Janelle would have been much smarter. Will should have known that. I was disappointed in him.
In the end, either the BB6 alliance is just too strong in competition, or the rest of the house who would go for them just suck too much, and therefore, it is the houses fault. The BB6 alliance shouldn't have won this, and the producers gave Chilltown et al a chance to directly knock them out of the competition, and they failed to do so. When BB6 is the hugest target in the house and the most talked about alliance BY FAR, they automatically are disadvantaged in this type of competition, where you can knock people out directly. The rest of the house is to blame for not doing anything, and taking advantage of this.
All my opinion, of course. I mean no disrespect. Sometimes I think my comments come off strongly, and I only do so because I want to make a clear point, honestly. It is just a TV show, afterall, and only my opinion. Nobody needs to share it. Peace.
PEACE, Mike.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:39 pm |
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MikeQ. wrote: Interesting. When I first heard the game, I thought it was clear the producers were trying to make it harder for the BB6 alliance to win, because you can no longer win on merit alone. BB6 was the most obvious target in a competition like that. The house is supposed to be gearing against BB6 to knock one of them out and soften their alliance. Everyone has recognized that (even Erika), but a few have chosen not to act on it because their wimps, and the rest just weren't good enough. Period, in my mind. It's not the producers fault. I was expecting BB6 to finally lose HOH this week. For me, it's surprising they won. Diane, Danielle, Mike, and George didn't work hard enough. I can give Boogie a break, because he was knocked out right away, but Diane (I thought she was going to crush the house, she said?), George (who proved last episode he can go as far as he wants if he has the motivation) and even Danielle (who should have rocked in this competition) didn't even get a single answer in. And Will, who did work hard, made a stupid mistake and knocked out Howie instead of Janelle or Kaysar. Howie is dumb, he's not going to do well in that type of competition. Knocking out Kaysar or Janelle would have been much smarter. Will should have known that. I was disappointed in him. In the end, either the BB6 alliance is just too strong in competition, or the rest of the house who would go for them just suck too much, and therefore, it is the houses fault. The BB6 alliance shouldn't have won this, and the producers gave Chilltown et al a chance to directly knock them out of the competition, and they failed to do so. When BB6 is the hugest target in the house and the most talked about alliance BY FAR, they automatically are disadvantaged in this type of competition, where you can knock people out directly. The rest of the house is to blame for not doing anything, and taking advantage of this. All my opinion, of course. I mean no disrespect. Sometimes I think my comments come off strongly, and I only do so because I want to make a clear point, honestly. It is just a TV show, afterall, and only my opinion. Nobody needs to share it. Peace.  PEACE, Mike.
I completely agree! I was trying to make the point (indirectly) that the producers set this one up for them to easily knock out Janelle (who imo if I was going against bb6 crew, I would get Janelle out first, then Kaysar), but instead they didn't want to ruffle any feathers, and took the easy way out (George????). Erika is hot, but she's getting real annoying. Janelle, you know exactly where she stands, even if it means she'll be voted out soon. But imo, Danielle, if she wins next week, will turn everything upside down. She's in an alliance with James, which I think is pretty strong considering James, when he was talking to Julie, said "I need to protect the bb6 people....and Danielle." If Danielle wins, she'll get out Janelle or Kaysar, and then it would be 3 for bb6, and James, would jump ship as soon as Kaysar is gone I think (as a Howie-Marcellas-Janelle alliance might not work out as well). But I think at this point, I've encountered rocks that are more interesting than Erika. She needs to do something.
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Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:59 pm |
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MovieGeek
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4 WEEKS IN A ROW BABY!!!! YEAH!!!
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:59 am |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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Well, if they wanted to give Janelle and Kaysar an advantage, where were they last year when the Nerd Herd kicked their buts!
Anyway, I think the same sort of thing happened during Survivor: All-Stars, when Boston Rob and his alliance dominated while the others were either wimps or weren't that good in the challenges to do anything about it.
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:59 am |
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Mister Ecks
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To be fair to those who find the BB6 domination boring, I was hoping for Danielle or even Georgie to win.
But not Scrappy Doo. I hate that bastard.
From what I've read, three of the Sovs are worried about James. God, I hope they don't fuck their numbers by ousting James now. That would be such a bullshit move, and Willtown would love it. If Janelle could just get rid of Scrappy Doo now, I'd be happy. I wouldn't even really care who won HOH from here on out, as long as he wasn't there.
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:57 am |
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Mister Ecks
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Also, did anyone check out the "Love 'Em or Leave 'Em" poll on CBS.com's BB7 site? God.
I can understand Howie going down in popularity, seeing as how I'm the only cat still loving the guy. But Janelle is also taking major leaps down in popularity. But the biggest shock? Kaysar taking HUGE fuckin' leaps up the popularity charts. Why are so many in love with him? I like the guy, but he's far from my favorite in the house (consult my favs list). He's quiet this time around, he's mopey since shaving his noggin. What the hell?
I can somehow justify Howie's drop, but I can't justify Kaysar's immense popularity.
And aren't these polls different from last year? If so, I think Janelle would be up there, but since they can only choose one fav, everyone is choosing Kaysar.
Here's my revised Favs list, with Jase's departure:
1. Howie
2. Will
3. Janelle
4. Chicken George
5. Danielle (up one spot)
6. Kaysar (down one spot)
7. Diane (up)
8. James (down)
9. Marcellas
10. Erika
11. Mike Boogie
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:04 am |
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Lucky
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I loved S6 last year but I'm tired of seeing them win HOH everyweek.I was hoping someone, anyone (except George) would win HOH this week to shake things up. Just like every other week S6 is safe. Howie gets another free pass without doing anything (has he even competed in POV this season?). Nominees this week will be either Will, Mike, Diane, George or Erika.Yawn
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:09 am |
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greasedlightning
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Once Will goes home, I'm giving up the season. If BB6 gets past next week in tact, they pretty much won the game. Now I'm watching for Will only.
Anyway, my favorites
1. Will
2. Chicken George
3. Boogie
4. Danielle
5. James
James is ready to branch out and leave the Sovs and I say he goes for it. What can they really do? Even if he decides to go against them, they can't start taking him out because they have other people to worry about. He needs to start doing what's best for him and not Kaysar, Janelle, and James, especially since James is the last person people want out from S6, but Janelle et al are trying to take out the people who wouldn't put up James so that he can go first from their group.
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:37 pm |
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Mister Ecks
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I do hope someone besides BB6 wins next week, but not Boogie. I hope he's gone this week. He is really the only person I HATE. Everyone else I either love, like, or just feel indifferent to.
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:24 pm |
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MikeQ.
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Mr. X wrote: I do hope someone besides BB6 wins next week, but not Boogie. I hope he's gone this week. He is really the only person I HATE. Everyone else I either love, like, or just feel indifferent to.
I agree. Mike Boogie is the only person I truly hate. I would say I actually like or love everyone else (in varying degrees). Erika is probably the only one I'm indifferent to because she's so void of personality or gameplay, so I can't really form an opinion of her.
PEACE, Mike.
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Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:44 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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MikeQ. wrote: Mr. X wrote: I do hope someone besides BB6 wins next week, but not Boogie. I hope he's gone this week. He is really the only person I HATE. Everyone else I either love, like, or just feel indifferent to. I agree. Mike Boogie is the only person I truly hate. I would say I actually like or love everyone else (in varying degrees). Erika is probably the only one I'm indifferent to because she's so void of personality or gameplay, so I can't really form an opinion of her. PEACE, Mike.
Mike reminds me of a sleazy, 40 year old, drug dealer who thinks he's really great at what he does, but actually isn't.
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Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:22 am |
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Christian
Team Kris
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I just wanna see Diane cry again.
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Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:25 pm |
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Cotton
Some days I'm a super bitch
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Wow, what a confusing episode.
Despite being successful in the challenges, SeaSick is in definite need for a strategic tune-up. Targeting Mike is a good idea, but why in god's name did Janelle nominate Erika? Out of all the floaters, I thought Erika would probably be the one SeaSick could trust the most (aside from maybe Marcellas). Given that she's on really good terms with Kaysar and chose not to eliminate a SeaSicker during the HOH chellenge. It just seems like they made an enemy that they didn't have to make.
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Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:20 am |
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Mister Ecks
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Wow, what complete BS spewing out of James' mouth (what a surprise). He's pissed off that Janelle didn't want to target Willtown, and yet, his target last week was Chicken George. Even with Will on the block, he wanted George out. Even when he had the opportunity to put Will and Mike up against each other, he went after Jase.
Moron.
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Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:47 pm |
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Ewww. Horrible episode. I can't believe Janelle would allow herself to get played so easily. She's very likely gone next week, and while I would be quite irritated with that if it was the Nerd Herd, she, and the BB6 people, really did this to themselves, and they had their time to shine, but didn't capitalize on it. In 4 consecutive weeks of being HOH's, Chilltown is still in tact. So they really didn't play a great game for me to be too upset that Janelle would be likely leaving very soon. But what does irritate me, and it did last season too, is just how quickly James jumps ship, and starts badmouthing his alliances. I don't like his game at all, and while Will, we know where he's coming from, I just don't like the way James plays his game. Granted, he had reason to be irritated, but he was just waiting for the opportunity for that alliance to break, and wasn't really looking out for them, contrary to what he says.
At least its more interesting now. I'm just glad that their are at least Kaysar/Janelle on the jury, but it'll probably be Kaysar. But Janelle really did slip up majorly, and I don't know why she and Howie even bothered answering questions in the veto competition, it just brought attention to them.
So, out of the people starting out the game, here's who I definitely didn't want to win:
Alison
Jase
Here are the ones that I wouldn't like to see win, but could tolerate at least
Mike Boogie
Howie
James
Here are the ones I wouldn't mind winning or am indifferent to:
Will
Nakomis
Marcellas
Diane
Erika
George
Here are the ones I would like to win:
Kaysar
Janelle
Danielle
So Janelle is gone, but with James gone, I think a Howie/Kaysar alliance wouldn't get as much attention, as someone like James or Will would. At this point, I don't mind who wins the game, as the people I liked least have already been voted out. But I don't think the way James has been playing this week, that I'd like him to win, but I don't see him winning.
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Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:13 pm |
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MovieGeek
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AH! Janelle SUCKS!!!!! What a horrible person she is.
James all the way!! God that makes me mad!
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Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:52 pm |
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matatonio
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ugh! WTH is Janelle doing?! its obvious that chilltown are going to backdoor her. I still like her but that was a dumb decision that pretty much killed there alliance.
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