KnY will get good boosts but definitely not as high anymore IMO.

The fact that it's still being boosted so much in and of itself despite already having such ridicolously high LTDs is insane enough and proof of its staying power imho. Huge boosts should not be an option anymore (even though I said as much before the movie and was promptly proven wrong, lol), even this much is quite far beyond what I expected from reruns and the movie broadcast. 95% of series can only dream of getting their backlog into top50 at all at any point in their run, so for it to still be doing it at this stage is nothing short of ridicolous.

But yeah, it's not enough to come back into #1 contention for the year. Not with this much, anyways. The tv broadcast of MT might help, but it's unlikely to provide enough for it to close the gap with such little time left. I think our top 10 is pretty much set right now, with only a couple of positions being close enough for uncertainty (namely CSM/SxF will be very close for 7th, and kingdom will probably fall from 9th to 10th if it doesnt have a volume release for november - even just one week should be enough to keep it above haikyuu otherwise).

Kinda annoying that Oricon seperates the limited and regular editions. KnY vol.23 could potentially sell over 6 million units overall but that won't be visible.

It's not much of a problem. KnY 23 (LE) sold 626k units in its first two weeks and only +20k in the next 2 weeks combined, knowing it was a preorder only limited edition that didn't and won't be reprinted means the 646k it got on monthly is still pretty damn close to the full number. So just add +646k, basically.

It'll still probably get to 6 million eventually (with the LE added). It's at 5,763,901 overall, so 236,099 should be doable eventually. Now, that may take a couple or a few years, but I don't see why it isn't manageable.

Regarding JJK #17 appearing on this week's chart, a day before it was released, I don't actually know if that "counts" as its first week. We like to call it "Week 0" when a retailer breaks the street date, but since it did appear on Oricon (just like many One Piece volumes have in the past, among others), I guess it's technically the first week on Oricon's chart.

Good to see Toilet-Bound Hanako still doing well. Season 2 down the road, perhaps?

JJK dropped a little compared to last vol prob because of week 0 sales.
MHA at second.
Tokyo revengers massive drop at third.
And KnY at fourth still holdin' on. Less than 100k than last week sales, but still incredible nonetheless.

That opening sentence is so deceiving lol. You praise KnY for 4th but are disappointed by Jjk's return to #1

I mean, I ain't wrong since jjk did dropped when comparing to it's last volume lmao

It's like your favourite team losing

You are good dude

With October 11 and 12th daily Shoseki ranking it seems DS won't exceed 300k with next weekly top 10 by Oricon. So JjK must had +1,7-1,9M then. DS vol 23th looks anormally low in daily ranking so I wonder if there's a stock issue or it's just the fact it sold more than the previous volumes... XD
The first spot can still change for the yearly ranking but it looks more like a miracle right now. ^^

Adding week 0 to Jujutsu Kaisen's week, I think #17 still dropped a little bit, or at least had a similar first week as #16. But that's still 7-day versus 3-day, so it has slipped a bit. But that's not unusual since the anime has been over for half a year now. Pretty much everything tends to peak around the end of an anime season before dropping off a bit.

I believe One Piece #100 had a bigger first week than JJK #17 (in less days), after JJK #16 beat OP #99 back in June, so I'm curious to see if One Piece goes back to "reclaiming its throne" again in the coming year or two with JJK likely to gradually decline for a bit before stabilizing (and then seeing some upticks when the anime airs again and such).

And Demon Slayer has sold so much, it's hard to imagine it remaining in contention for top spot in the yearly rankings in a year or two. 2022 will probably still be pretty good if season two of the anime can keep its weekly sales around 200,000/300,000 for a few months, though it'll still likely see a pretty massive drop compared to 2021. DS was helped a ton from its sales from December-February/March (when the last volume was released and the series was selling a ton due to it and backlog sales). Anyone know how much the first 2-3 months of 2021 accounted for its total sales of 2021?

And Tokyo Revengers is declining of course now that its anime has wrapped up as well, and the individual volumes weren't able to reach Jujutsu Kaisen level (much less Demon Slayer), so presumably it'll see a huge drop off in 2022.

All three (DS, JJK, and TR) are likely to see huge drops, probably 50% or more, in 2022.

I guess the question becomes if any other newer series in 2022 (Chainsaw Man, perhaps, if the anime delivers?) will be able to see the same sort of success that DS, JJK, and TR all had back-to-back-to-back. Or if the charts will eventually go back to resemble the pre-2019 era.

Chainsaw off course yes... With an anime and/or its "part 2".
SPYxFAMILY maybe... depends when its anime comes and if it'll has an impact on its sales since the manga's selling really good with its comic-books only ! But we won't see more than 3-4 volumes releases so it'll hard to exceed 10M with a boost on its backlogs ?

Oricon Ranking: Week 40, 2021 (Oct 4 - Oct 10)
RANK./ TITLE - SALES (YEARLY ESTIMATES)

01./ Jujutsu Kaisen - 1,180,583 (30,105,645)
02./ My Hero Academia - 545,463 (6,422,121)
03./ Tokyo Revengers - 462,663 (23,344,223)
04./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba - 218,799 (28,770,305)
05./ The Five Star Stories - 132,259
06./ Black Clover - 119,569
07./ Mashle: Magic and Muscles - 112,823
08./ Dandadan - 97,865
09./ March Comes in Like a Lion - 94,381
10./ Blue Box - 81,615

Considering the momentum it currently has, Blue Lock is a prime candidate for a boost in 2022

Thanks, Rouk'! I was going to bring up Blue Lock a few weeks back (August/September, I think) when I noticed it ranking well on the weekly sales chart.

With Haikyuu!! over, there's certainly a Shonen sports series slot to fill. And the manga already has over 5 million copies in circulation. Pretty impressive figure for a 3 year old series with no anime (yet). And the reception has been really good. The anime is debuting sometime next year.

I nominate Sousou no Frieren once it has an anime.
But since it's still new, I don't think it'll have an anime at least until 2023.

Yeah. I just wanted to see how the dailies looked after the broadcast before ruling it out pretty much 100%, even though like I said, it was unlikely to begin with for it to have enough steam left to take #1 back. And having seen the dailies for this week after the episode, there's basically no way KnY is contesting first anymore imho. JJK has it locked.


I disagree that the drop for #17 is slight. Knowing #17's 7days fw+week 0 ends up basically even with #16's 3 days fw means the full month drop could be as big as even 200k, which honestly, is massive. This might seem pessimistic, but honestly, not really. The difference between a 7days fw and a 3days fw is supposed to be really big, even moreso for big releases which are very frontloaded.

Just to put it into perspective with numbers: JJK #16's week 2 was 354k. Of this number, realistically speaking, the amount that was sold within the first 4 days of it should be around ~250k. So if you were to align launch dates, that's about the amount you'd see JJK #17 behind. And looking at it falling behind My Blissful Marriage on tuesday for week 2's dailies does indeed suggest that week 2 is going to be nowhere near that of JJK 16.

This number was so surprising to me that my first reaction seeing it this morning was that there had been a mistake with the chart! And perhaps something did happen and the volume will bounce back from the weak start, though nothing appears out of order with the other WSJ releases this week, so...if everything plays out the way it's looking, very disappointing drop, and disappointing to see it happen so soon as well, I can't say much else.


Uh, in terms of series sales? CSM and SxF (I believe a leak had it airing next year, so an announcement should happen at some point unless it was incorrect) could do very well but they don't have much of a chance of putting up 'huge' series numbers even if they do receive a big boost. For one, their volume count is low, and CSM is going to be in a situation where even if it returns early 2021 it probably won't put out more than 2 volumes for the year, and that is provided that they even keep the same volume count for part 2, cause otherwise it will have 0 releases as far as oricon is concerned. SxF has even less volumes than CSM to count for backlog, will only have 2 volume releases next year, and has a very high starting point - which isn't a bad thing, mind you, but it plays against it in terms of achieving 'huge' series numbers on yearly.

Still, those 2 are certainly series to 'watch' in terms of huge boosts even if a lot plays against them in terms of getting big series numbers. The other 2 series I'm looking out for the most next year in terms of top10 candidates would be:

Blue Lock: Good seller, has a lot of momentum in terms of backlog sales, and has very good timing as the market is currently suffering the loss of haikyuu and has a big hole to fill for a huge spokon. Anime will release with lots of volumes on the market and the series will likely add 4 to 5 new releases next year. Good candidate for a high spot on next year's list.

Mystery to iu nakare: Biggest josei out there right now, selling 250k monthly on new releases, lots of momentum with strong backlog sales, will receive a drama next year. Perhaps not a contender for a "top position" on the list, but I think this series has a good shot at making top 10 next year.

There's other stuff that might do something, but I'd consider pretty low chance to blow up. Best example of it is probably AoAshi, in a similar position to Blue Lock sales wise but with none of its momentum. It seems likely to air before blue lock though and with the market still lacking that big spokon it could make the difference. Still, the difference in momentum the two series have as the two big spokon adaptations scheduled for next year speaks very clearly about the difference in their chances, and I also feel like blue lock is generally a better fit for that spot even though I prefer AoAshi out of the two.

And this isn't an anime, but perhaps Kaiju could make it there? Though honestly speaking Kaiju's explosive growth very much halted now, so I wouldn't expect it. Still, something might change next year, who knows. JJK, OP, MHA, TR are more or less top 10 locks, KnY will very likely be the only series that ended to make a return to top10 next year (though at a much lower number and position, surely).

This post ended up being much longer than I intended when I started writing it, sorry about that lol

Oops yep, there won't be more than 2 SxF volumes for next year... with its release every 5 months ~
JjK still has its movie out early so it can gets few extra millions of sales with a 10% boost and its releases of the year... and keeps its first place after all. There's a hype for Blue Lock but will it be enought to hit 10M+ ?
It would be funny to see Slam Dunk back with its movie...xD but I see it's coming at the fall of 2022 so still short for anything...
About Kaiju, its last volume sold quite the same of 3rd one with the same period (less than 3k between). I'm wondering if it's 'cause the intensity slowed down for few chapters...666k during 31 days is still quite good but I imagined a volume 4 at a higher level than it actually is.

Oricon Ranking: Week 40, 2021 (Oct 4 - Oct 10)
RANK./PREVIOUS RANK. TITLE (RELEASE DATE) - SALES/LTD SALES (GROWTH)

01./06. Jujutsu Kaisen #17 {2021.10.04} - 1,096,464 / 1,169,329 (+1405%)
02./00. My Hero Academia #32 {2021.10.04} - 452,736 / 453,906 (+38595%)
03./00. The Five Star Stories #16 {2021.10.08} - 130,641 / NEW
04./00. Black Clover #30 {2021.10.04} - 113,418 / 113,690 (+41598%)
05./00. Mashle: Magic and Muscles #8 {2021.10.04} - 93,423 / 93,578 (+60173%)
06./00. Dandadan #2 {2021.10.04} - 85,717 / 86,003 (+29871%)
07./01. March Comes in Like a Lion #16 {2021.09.29} - 80,818 / 377,865 (-73%)
08./00. Blue Box #2 {2021.10.04} - 74,470 / 74,684 (+34699%)
09./00. Seraph of the End #25 {2021.10.04} - 67,417 / 67,593 (+38205%)
10./04. Tokyo Revengers #24 {2021.09.17} - 65,796 / 865,379 (-48%)
11./00. Kinnikuman #76 {2021.10.04} - 64,467 / 64,737 (+23777%)
12./00. Fujimoto Tatsuki Short Story Collection "17-21" {2021.10.04} - 61,984 / 62,268 (+21725%)
13./02. Black Butler #31 {2021.09.27} - 56,951 / 254,967 (-71%)
14./00. Kono Oto Tomare! #25 {2021.10.04} - 53,918 / 54,138 (+24408%)
15./00. Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo #201 {2021.10.04} - 50,284 / 50,727 (+11251%)
16./16. Otherworldly Izakaya Nobu #13 {2021.10.01} - 45,918 / 75,014 (+58%)
17./00. Today's Menu for the Emiya Family #7 {2021.10.07} - 45,716 / NEW
18./00. Ayakashi Triangle #6 {2021.10.04} - 43,935 / 44,142 (+21125%)
19./03. Toilet-Bound Hanako-kun #16 {2021.09.27} - 42,695 / 169,195 (-66%)
20./00. World's End Harem #13 {2021.10.04} - 42,054 / NEW
21./00. Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou Sareta Beast Tamer, Saikyou-shu Nekomimi Shoujo to Deau #6 {2021.10.07} - 41,537 / NEW
22./00. Gakuen Babysitters #22 {2021.10.05} - 36,818 / NEW
23./00. Shikimori’s Not Just a Cutie #10 {2021.10.08} - 33,310 / NEW
24./00. Undead Unluck #8 {2021.10.04} - 31,268 / NEW
25./00. Kimi wa Mendou na Konyakusha #4 {2021.10.05} - 30,849 / NEW
26./00. The Ride-On King #7 {2021.10.07} - 28,610 / NEW
27./00. Mission: Yozakura Family #10 {2021.10.04} - 28,427 / NEW
28./10. Record of Ragnarok #12 {2021.09.18} - 28,259 / 273,392 (-35%)
29./00. Arafoo Kenja no Isekai Seikatsu Nikki〜Kimama na Isekai Kyoushi Life〜 #7 {2021.10.07} - 27,395 / NEW
30./12. Chi - Chikyuu no Undou ni Tsuite #5 {2021.09.30} - 26,288 / 66,374 (-34%)
31./00. Nido Tensei Shita Shounen wa S Rank Boukensha Toshite Heion ni Sugosu〜Zense ga Kenja de Eiyuu Datta Boku wa Raise Dewa Jimi ni Ikiru〜 #5 {2021.10.07} - 25,456 / NEW
32./00. World's End Harem Fantasia #8 {2021.10.04} - 24,148 / NEW
33./18. Kaiju No. 8 #4 {2021.09.03} - 23,728 / 690,045 (-16%)
34./09. Kuubo Ibuki Great Game #5 {2021.09.30} - 22,708 / 67,615 (-49%)
35./00. Yoku Wakaranai Keredo Isekai ni Tensei Shita You Desu #8 {2021.10.07} - 22,545 / NEW
36./00. Boku wa Chikyuu to Utau 「Boku Tama」 Jisedai-hen II #7 {2021.10.05} - 22,204 / NEW
37./00. 2.5 Dimensional Seduction #11 {2021.10.04} - 21,542 / NEW
38./17. One Piece #100 {2021.09.03} - 20,699 / 1,785,766 (-28%)
39./08. Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt #18 {2021.09.30} - 20,553 / 68,454 (-57%)
40./05. Disney Twisted Wonderland the Comic ~Episode of Heartslabyul~ #1 {2021.09.27} - 20,155 / 110,695 (-78%)
41./00. Watashi Konotabi, Oukoku Kishidan Dokushin Ryou no Kaseifu wo Suru Koto ni Narimashita #5 {2021.10.05} - 19,784 / NEW
42./00. Saikyou no Madoshi. Hisa ni Ya o Ukete Shimatta node Inaka no Eihei ni Naru #5 {2021.10.07} - 19,638 / NEW
43./00. Isekai Tensei de Kenja ni Natte Boukensha Seikatsu - [Mahou Kairyou] de Isekai Saikyou #2 {2021.10.07} - 19,359 / NEW
44./11. Space Brothers #40 {2021.09.22} - 19,089 / 206,778 (-55%)
45./22. Tokyo Revengers #10 {2019.01.17} - 19,079 / 1,163,477 (-23%)
46./13. My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom! #7 {2021.09.30} - 18,891 / 54,569 (-47%)
47./23. Tokyo Revengers #9 {2018.11.16} - 18,747 / 1,173,287 (-23%)
48./26. Tokyo Revengers #14 {2019.10.17} - 18,426 / 1,102,111 (-23%)
49./31. Tokyo Revengers #15 {2019.12.17} - 18,313 / 1,092,086 (-22%)
50./33. Tokyo Revengers #19 {2020.09.17} - 18,301 / 1,055,196 (-22%)

Talk about a week of debuts!!

Thanks, Rouk'!

Oricon Ranking: Week 41, 2021 (Oct 11 - Oct 17)
RANK./ TITLE - SALES (YEARLY ESTIMATES)

01./ Tokyo Revengers - 306,099 (23,650,322)
02./ Jujutsu Kaisen - 253,328 (30,358,973)
03./ My Happy Marriage - 230,109
04./ My Hero Academia - 193,246 (6,615,367)
05./ Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba - 177,962 (28,948,267)
06./ Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku - 176,263
07./ Blue Lock - 96,744 (~1,860,000)
08./ Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card - 78,591
09./ Detective Conan - 71,075
10./ Blue Period - 49,729

*It seems unlikely to me that Blue Period would be 10th with 50k units. So this is possibly one of these case where a manga outside the top 10 is wrongly put there. See what happened in the first week of the 2021 Oricon year (that's in the second post of this thread): series outside the top 10 got their data mistakenly put in it. Friday data will fix that

It looks like the race for number 1 in 2021 is over for KNY. Congratulations to JJK.

MHA seems to be unable to reach Top 5.

Oricon Ranking: Week 41, 2021 (Oct 11 - Oct 17)
RANK./PREVIOUS RANK. TITLE (RELEASE DATE) - SALES/LTD SALES (GROWTH)

01./01. Jujutsu Kaisen #17 {2021.10.04} - 188,470 / 1,357,799 (-83%)
02./00. My Happy Marriage #3 {2021.10.12} - 144,551 / NEW
03./00. Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku #11 {2021.10.14} - 136,604 / NEW
04./02. My Hero Academia #32 {2021.10.04} - 86,995 / 540,901 (-81%)
05./00. My Happy Marriage #3 Limited Edition {2021.10.12} - 77,999 / NEW
06./00. Detective Conan #100 {2021.10.18} - 67,852 / NEW
07./00. Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card #11 {2021.10.13} - 60,337 / NEW
08./00. Blue Lock #16 {2021.10.15} - 48,181 / NEW
09./03. The Five Star Stories #16 {2021.10.08} - 46,560 / 177,201 (-64%)
10./00. Fire Force #31 {2021.10.15} - 39,565 / NEW
11./00. Rent-a-Girlfriend #23 {2021.10.15} - 37,833 / NEW
12./23. Shikimori’s Not Just a Cutie #10 {2021.10.08} - 34,587 / 67,897 (+4%)
13./00. Nigatsu no Shousha -Zettai Goukaku no Kyoushitsu- #13 {2021.10.12} - 34,115 / NEW
14./07. March Comes in Like a Lion #16 {2021.09.29} - 33,643 / 411,508 (-58%)
15./00. Wotakoi: Love is Hard for Otaku #11 Limited Edition {2021.10.14} - 32,355 / NEW
16./10. Tokyo Revengers #24 {2021.09.17} - 27,774 / 893,153 (-58%)
17./00. Keep Your Hands Off Eizouken! #6 {2021.10.12} - 26,966 / NEW
18./00. Maiko-san Chi no Makanai-san #18 {2021.10.12} - 26,752 / NEW
19./17. Today's Menu for the Emiya Family #7 {2021.10.07} - 25,211 / 70,927 (-45%)
20./00. Detective Conan Zero’s Tea Time #5 {2021.10.18} - 24,949 / NEW
21./00. Girlfriend, Girlfriend #8 {2021.10.15} - 24,220 / NEW
22./04. Black Clover #30 {2021.10.04} - 23,591 / 137,281 (-79%)
23./13. Black Butler #31 {2021.09.27} - 23,180 / 278,147 (-59%)
24./00. Tougen Anki #6 {2021.10.08} - 21,255 / 37,518 (+31%)
25./05. Mashle: Magic and Muscles #8 {2021.10.04} - 21,183 / 114,761 (-77%)
26./19. Toilet-Bound Hanako-kun #16 {2021.09.27} - 20,933 / 190,128 (-51%)
27./00. School-Live! Otayori {2021.10.12} - 20,669 / NEW
28./00. Firefighter! Daigo of Fire Company M: Kyuukoku no Orange #3 {2021.10.15} - 20,444 / NEW
29./00. "Kimi wo Aisuru kiwanai" to Itta Jiki Koushaku-sama ga Naze ka Dekiai Shite kimasu #1 {2021.10.15} - 19,609 / NEW
30./00. Ascendance of a Bookworm: Part 2 #6 {2021.10.14} - 18,618 / NEW
31./09. Seraph of the End #25 {2021.10.04} - 17,468 / 85,061 (-74%)
32./00. Hypnosis Mic -Before the Battle- Dawn of Divisions #1 Limited Edition {2021.10.15} - 16,945 / NEW
33./00. Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card #11 Limited Edition {2021.10.13} - 16,853 / NEW
34./00. Seibetsu "Mona Lisa" no Kimi e. #7 {2021.10.12} - 16,604 / NEW
35./21. Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou Sareta Beast Tamer, Saikyou-shu Nekomimi Shoujo to Deau #6 {2021.10.07} - 16,514 / 58,051 (-60%)
36./06. Dandadan #2 {2021.10.04} - 16,431 / 102,434 (-81%)
37./00. Battle in 5 Seconds #18 {2021.10.12} - 16,028 / NEW
38./00. Baki-dou #11 {2021.10.08} - 15,822 / 32,953 (-+8%)
39./28. Record of Ragnarok #12 {2021.09.18} - 15,296 / 288,688 (-46%)
40./00. When Will Ayumu Make His Move? #9 {2021.10.15} - 15,144 / NEW
41./33. Kaiju No. 8 #4 {2021.09.03} - 14,455 / 704,500 (-39%)
42./00. Noragami: Stray God #24 {2021.10.15} - 14,103 / NEW
43./00. Baki Gaiden - Retsu Kaioh Isekai Tensei Shitemo Ikkou Kamawan! #3 {2021.10.08} - 13,832 / 26,190 (+12%)
44./00. A Certain Magical Index #26 {2021.10.12} - 13,762 / NEW
45./12. Fujimoto Tatsuki Short Story Collection "17-21" {2021.10.04} - 13,200 / 75,468 (-79%)
46./22. Gakuen Babysitters #22 {2021.10.05} - 13,100 / 49,918 (-64%)
47./45. Tokyo Revengers #10 {2019.01.17} - 13,056 / 1,176,533 (-32%)
48./38. One Piece #100 {2021.09.03} - 12,917 / 1,798,683 (-38%)
49./50. Tokyo Revengers #19 {2020.09.17} - 12,901 / 1,068,097 (-30%)
50./00. Tokyo Revengers #18 {2020.07.17} - 12,792 / 1,070,058