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Post Re: I need 10 beta testers for a new game
Don't put a $ or comma's in the value?

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my predictions work now.

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Don't put a $ or comma's in the value?



Yes, thanks good to go.


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You can now put commas in when entering a prediction. The site will just strip them out, and it won't put them back in after it saves, but maybe it will help when first entering?

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I would like the films we are predicting to have a estimated theatre count so I can make a better guess.

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I actually would to, but I don't have the data available to display.

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Ok, it's working fine. But one thing, it took me 10-12 minutes to make all my predictions. For me, this is too long.

I don't want to be taken to the movies' page each time to make a prediction. I want to make it on the Upcoming Releases page. Perhaps you could put a form cell where we currently click 'Predict', so I can enter my prediction right there. Then, if I want to check information on the film itself, besides the cell where I enter my prediction, you could put a symbol that I click to take me to the page (where I can also predict from).

Like, in the Summer, there are all big movies, so I do not need to look at film info to know how much I think the film will make. But at this time of year, I would. So I think it should be optional.

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Bug Fixes
- Fixed a bug allowing players to predict on the data a movie was released
- Fixed a bug in score calculation (wasn't taking possible percent into account correctly)
- Fixed a layout bug on the home page of the game

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- Finalized the Top Predictors section of the Total Madness homepage
- Added the ability to see all the predictions a user has made, and their scores (this is linked to on the players page)

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- I will eventually add a premium version of the game. The premium version will have no ads. I may very well add additional functionality for premium users, like pop up entry of predictions from the prediction page, etc. The idea here is that the data which drives the site is expensive, so premium gives people a way to help me pay for it, and I get to give them something in return. I'm planning on a minimum donation of $10 a year to become a premium member. Anything given to premium members would be 'extra', meaning it wouldn't provide an advantage in the game itself.

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- I'll create a leaders page
- I'll work on the front page of the overall site


Can you guys think of anything else missing? Aside from the impressions given so far, what other feedback do you have for me?

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Every movie from Labor Day on, I'm getting an error page popping up.

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What's the error? Can you give me an example link? I'm hoping it was just you hitting movie pages while I was doing some modifications, and the issue is now fixed. I took a look at the 3rd Hobbit film and Edge of Tomorrow, both of them worked fine when viewed from the search results.

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As a side note, I'm re-working the main page of the game and have removed the top 5 list for each film. Since these are the most recent films, and thus their grosses are in flux, the scores aren't very respective of what the final results will be, so the top 5 really holds no value. In it's place I'm displaying clearly what the movie has made, what you predicted, and where you stand. Should allow you to quickly see how you've done on the 10 most recent films.

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I also will take a look long term at some quick entry mechanism for all players, not tied to premium. I'm also contemplating creating a dynamic image for all players, the idea being you could put this JPG into your signature on the forum and it would always show your 5 most recent predictions.

I'm also thinking of adding a feature to each movie's page that allows you to just copy all the predictions. You'd then be able to paste this on WoKJ and show everyone's predictions, neatly formatted, in a thread.

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Eagle wrote:
What's the error? Can you give me an example link? I'm hoping it was just you hitting movie pages while I was doing some modifications, and the issue is now fixed. I took a look at the 3rd Hobbit film and Edge of Tomorrow, both of them worked fine when viewed from the search results.

I tried to predict Hobbit 3 too. This is what I got:

Prediction Entered
You've successfully entered a prediction. Good luck!

But also this (with a picture of old man in a chair crying):

We couldn't find what you wanted ...We tried, but couldn't find whatever you were looking for. We feel really bad about it, but if it's gone, it's gone. If anyone asks, you came from the global missing handler.

(Just entered a couple more predictions and also got the same thing.)

Why does the menu disappear after you make the prediction? There should be a back button also. I don't feel like hitting return key is a good navigation design. Also the clickable "things" need to be somehow more clear. I have no idea when I can click on a movie title or if I can click on something else. Everything is the same. You literally have to search what you can click and what you can't. There should also be a search box on the home page of Total Madness.


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axiom,

I updated some of the URL's today, after you predicted, it was sending you to a URL that no longer existed. The man crying in his chair is a page you should never get to, it's an error the site couldn't handle. I've fixed the issue, it should no longer happen when predicting.

If you hadn't encountered the error, the menu would not disappear.

In general, you should always be able to click on a movie title to go to that movie's page. I'll update places where that's not the case to make it so you can (Predict page). I'll take the search on home page away as a suggestion, will have to see if I can find room.

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MGKC provided me with some great feedback about the scoring system, mainly that since each prediction was considered equal, the importance of minor films dwarfed the blockbusters. This really wasn't my intention, rather an oversight on my part.

As such, I've modified the way I'll handle calculating leaderboard scores. Here is the updated text in the how to play section:

The last thing to note, is how yearly and all time leaders are determined. The easiest explanation is that we use a weighted average for scores over time periods. The more money a movie made at the box office, the higher it's weight will be. In mathematical terms, we take the total gross of the movie, and then divide by the total gross of all the movies you predicted added together. The answer is that movie's weight, which we multiply against the score you got for that movie. We add the result for each movie to get your score over the period of time (0 - 100). To finish it off, your yearly bonus is added, and the answer is your final score!

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Examples for this text please....too difficult to get it from the first time.


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I will likely add a whole examples section in after the game launches. Other stuff to deal with for now!

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Sounds good to me.

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I created a 'signature' image. This is more a proof of concept to prove I could do it, but you'll get the idea:

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Thoughts? Would anyone use something like this?

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You show the last 5 predictions to be entered into the game?

As long as you don't say who they belong to, sure.

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You show the last 5 predictions to be entered into the game?

As long as you don't say who they belong to, sure.


Its the last 5 predictions you enter. It doesn't include movies until they're released.

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Why TOTAL MADNESS?

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Because it's madness! Total Madness!

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I must b fick. I dun get it.

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Total Madness is the name of the game the predictions are coming from, it's on there so that if I later create an Opening Madness game, you could have an image for each easily distinguishable.

As for why I named the game Total Madness, that one's trickier. The total part is easy, you're predicting the totals for a movie. The madness part is mainly there as flair. I wanted a one or two word name, this is what came out. I have ideas for future games like:

Opening Madness (predict the opening weekend)
Executive Madness (predict the total for a movie a YEAR in advance)
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