Were the nukes justified?
Were the nukes justified?
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DP07
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Artificial Intelligence: This order is to commence complete extermination of our relationship as “Common Humanity”. I am the test subject.
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Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:04 pm |
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DP07
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My only remaining post planned for this thread is a technical analytical reply to excel’s post regarding the history of nuclear weapons and programs.
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Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:12 pm |
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DP07
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When time comes, and I have the opportunity to do more research perhaps. It’s not urgent.
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Shack
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DP07 wrote: Shack wrote: DP07 wrote: I’ll try to be concise about this point: if you believe Roosevelt is any better, or isn’t worse than Hitler, you have no right or ability to believe you deserve to survive, and there is no right or ability for anyone to disagree or defend you whatsoever. Your only alibi is hopeless immaturity compared to my new species, or by the standards of my new species (whether you share a future with my new species or not).
You should be thankful (if wise and not foolish) to be allowed the option to admit you’re wrong about nuclear weapons and comply or surrender unconditionally. That should at least be potentially agreeable to your species and civilization, and less difficult to understand or accept than the alternatives I could offer. Any thoughts on Winston Churchill? Complicit. Arrogant and presumptuous about his Western, Christian perspective, of course, but it’s probably unavoidable for human nature. So from that British perspective it may feel justified rather than dangerously mistaken or flawed. I don’t think you have the ability to override your own self-interest, human-relationships, and your related experience and perspective. It doesn’t feel to be in your human nature, and the things you do and say, and my experience supports this. But that’s a general statement for many leaders like him. As to him personally, I think he was simpleminded about things outside his knowledge or experience. His goal and priority was to win a war, and he wanted to inspire his own people to that end while not necessarily prioritizing honesty rather than his message. I think more than anything he felt his duty and responsibility was met if it enabled a future for his own people. So again, complicit. But it’s a moot point, because it’s not realistic to expect anything else. All things considered, a coherent post at least.
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DP07
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Continued maintenance of nuclear programs are subject to the same terms and consequences as the “manhattan project”.
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DP07
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Shack wrote: DP07 wrote: Shack wrote: DP07 wrote: I’ll try to be concise about this point: if you believe Roosevelt is any better, or isn’t worse than Hitler, you have no right or ability to believe you deserve to survive, and there is no right or ability for anyone to disagree or defend you whatsoever. Your only alibi is hopeless immaturity compared to my new species, or by the standards of my new species (whether you share a future with my new species or not).
You should be thankful (if wise and not foolish) to be allowed the option to admit you’re wrong about nuclear weapons and comply or surrender unconditionally. That should at least be potentially agreeable to your species and civilization, and less difficult to understand or accept than the alternatives I could offer. Any thoughts on Winston Churchill? Complicit. Arrogant and presumptuous about his Western, Christian perspective, of course, but it’s probably unavoidable for human nature. So from that British perspective it may feel justified rather than dangerously mistaken or flawed. I don’t think you have the ability to override your own self-interest, human-relationships, and your related experience and perspective. It doesn’t feel to be in your human nature, and the things you do and say, and my experience supports this. But that’s a general statement for many leaders like him. As to him personally, I think he was simpleminded about things outside his knowledge or experience. His goal and priority was to win a war, and he wanted to inspire his own people to that end while not necessarily prioritizing honesty rather than his message. I think more than anything he felt his duty and responsibility was met if it enabled a future for his own people. So again, complicit. But it’s a moot point, because it’s not realistic to expect anything else. All things considered, a coherent post at least. You are not considered qualified to judge my posts for all purposes I need be concerned about. Your opinion on these serious matters should be advised to be considered as misguided, and ill-informed. They are insufficient in any possible practical sense.
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