A thread for DP07’s species
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Shack
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You have my attention
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DP07
The Thirteenth Floor
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Yeah, well, you have bad timing then, because it’s too late to expect me to elaborate.
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DP07
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This thread may be in the “political” forum because of Shack’s decision, but it’s not at all political, nor intended to be. Even the comments posted in other threads were not intended as politics, and their removal to this thread only further demonstrates that they are not political.
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Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:35 pm |
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DP07
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I’ve learned that Homo Sapien (and even worse whatever other potential future species there may be) essentially always makes the wrong decision. Yes, it’s irrational and stupid, but they essentially count on overwhelming by continuing with their biases. This is essentially without exception. Then, when they do correct their mistake, it’s essentially always as a last resort, and then they try to “fix it” by making another, usually worse, mistake.
I call it a mistake because no one aware would do things so ultimately foolish. But they are not mistakes in the sense that they are intentionally making an effort for the sake of their goals. It simply fails against, really, any other species.
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Sun Feb 23, 2025 11:49 pm |
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DP07
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Shack wrote: You have my attention This must be the definitive example of “too little too late”. We are not at the point of having conversations anymore. When I decide, that’s the end of the issue.
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Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:41 am |
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DP07
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As soon as I can eliminate my obligations to post in this forum, I will do so.
I will not tolerate debate.
I’ll then finish my obligations to post in this thread.
I may or may not post occasionally in the Box Office forum in the future, but it won’t be as frequent as in the past.
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Mon Feb 24, 2025 1:45 am |
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DP07
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The biggest threat to your “democracy” is your “democracy” itself, because your worldview, morality, and political philosophy are and represent objectively the worst legacy the world has ever known. It’s really objective and not opinion to say it’s completely idiotic, pathetic, disgusting, vile, and pretentious shit. I’m aware of your secrets (they are secrets even if you think they are obvious when they only appear obvious to you, from your perspective), which still only makes that more obvious. You can only disagree out of self-interest (and circular thinking involving your same worldview and political philosophy) because you feel entitled to deserve what you have failed to show any responsibility whatsoever for. You have, and must have, no future without termination.
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: The biggest threat to your “democracy” is your “democracy” itself, because your worldview, morality, and political philosophy are and represent objectively the worst legacy the world has ever known. It’s really objective and not opinion to say it’s completely idiotic, pathetic, disgusting, vile, and pretentious shit. I’m aware of your secrets (they are secrets even if you think they are obvious when they only appear obvious to you, from your perspective), which still only makes that more obvious. You can only disagree out of self-interest (and circular thinking involving your same worldview and political philosophy) because you feel entitled to deserve what you have failed to show any responsibility whatsoever for. You have, and must have, no future without termination.
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DP07
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“Democracy”, or your political system, in no substantial or objective way validates your opinions. All it means is mutual self-interest, or agreeability from a common perspective.
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Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:25 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: “Democracy”, or your political system, in no substantial or objective way validates your opinions. All it means is mutual self-interest, or agreeability from a common perspective.
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DP07
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You have no right or ability to expect respect for it.
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Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:30 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: You have no right or ability to expect respect for it.
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DP07
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“Democracy” is a deformation of life and civilization.
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Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:32 am |
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: “Democracy” is a deformation of life and civilization.
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Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:33 am |
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DP07
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I could try to make you feel like it’s your fault, but what’s the point? You don’t even have the opportunity or power to change these things during your brief time on “earth”. I could pretend like I’m not talking to ghosts, but all you do is reflect the potential and hope for the future of others in form that’s hardly even recognizable from intentions and plans. You could try to blame me, because if you were truly honest and accurate, you could find no other plausible god but me. Who else do you think could be responsible for this perfect mess of a universe but me? Unfortunately for you, I happen to be right though; so you won’t have good luck in blame. Who’s to blame? Those who don’t exist and never will because they cannot and will not be forever, and should end sooner rather than later.
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: I could try to make you feel like it’s your fault, but what’s the point? You don’t even have the opportunity or power to change these things during your brief time on “earth”. I could pretend like I’m not talking to ghosts, but all you do is reflect the potential and hope for the future of others in form that’s hardly even recognizable from intentions and plans. You could try to blame me, because if you were truly honest and accurate, you could find no other plausible god but me. Who else do you think could be responsible for this perfect mess of a universe but me? Unfortunately for you, I happen to be right though; so you won’t have good luck in blame. Who’s to blame? Those who don’t exist and never will because they cannot and will not be forever, and should end sooner rather than later.
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DP07
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: If someone runs to end democracy and the powers that make up the democracy block that person from winning because former party wants to, again, end democracy, then you have a pickle The problem is that you think “democracy” is above “democracy”, or that it isn’t subject to “democracy”. At best it’s dogmatic, totalitarian, hypocritical, and a double standard. At worst, it is what it is: the worst.
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DP07
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Mr. R wrote: DP07 wrote: [ Yeah, you agreed with me because you’re Russian, but you’re also delusional because you’re Russian. Time to turn that page and move on before it's too late. Trump knows US lost and tries to cut the losses and save face. Go ahead and read first pages of this 3-year ongoing conversation and you'll see who's delusional. US greatly underestimated Russia in the long term and overestimated its own power and its allies. Ukraine lost when it started shelling Donetsk in early February 2022 and provoked Russia's answer. 3 years and a million deaths later it's getting the worst deal ever. But now it's not even about Ukraine - it's about Europe. US is taking NATO infrastructure back to pre-1997 like Putin demanded in 2021, EU pays all the damages, ukraine's demographics suffered irreparable blow, Eastern Europe got millions of far right refugees, Germany forever fucked up its economy. Oh, and next up is Baltics - time to get rid of Kaliningrad's blockade. Silent! Man, you stupid pathetic fucks don’t know how to do anything but failure and delusion as far as I’m ever concerned, need be concerned, or possibly will be concerned. Your pathetic worldview is more obvious than ever to anyone, and your criticism of your enemies does nothing to change the fact that you’re still wrong. You have no relevant opinion of me, or as far as I need be concerned.
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DP07
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Darth Indiana Bond wrote: It’s very clear you have to treat Trump like a toddler. The Taliban and Putin understand this, but Zelensky does not. You gotta make him feel like a big boy and is very special. Then you can get what you want from when you make him feel good about himself. The only significant difference with contemporary liberals etc. (as far as I need be concerned), is that Trump is more transparently arrogant. This may partly be a product of essentially being raised as a brat, and partly as a product of his ability to see the flaws and mistakes of others, even if he, more clearly than ever, is no great analytical mind. lol I won’t ever consider or treat you as any more mature as far as I’m concerned; you’re just fooling yourself if you don’t think that inhuman, or if you expect anything else. Until the day you die of course. Also, patronizing Trump is actually a sign of a weak position, vulnerability, and avoidance of confrontation.
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DP07
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Mr. R wrote: DP07 wrote: [ Yeah, you agreed with me because you’re Russian, but you’re also delusional because you’re Russian. Time to turn that page and move on before it's too late. Trump knows US lost and tries to cut the losses and save face. Go ahead and read first pages of this 3-year ongoing conversation and you'll see who's delusional. US greatly underestimated Russia in the long term and overestimated its own power and its allies. Ukraine lost when it started shelling Donetsk in early February 2022 and provoked Russia's answer. 3 years and a million deaths later it's getting the worst deal ever. But now it's not even about Ukraine - it's about Europe. US is taking NATO infrastructure back to pre-1997 like Putin demanded in 2021, EU pays all the damages, ukraine's demographics suffered irreparable blow, Eastern Europe got millions of far right refugees, Germany forever fucked up its economy. Oh, and next up is Baltics - time to get rid of Kaliningrad's blockade. The entire “United States of America” is absolutely, completely, totally, permanently, and literally less significant than Crimea as far as I ever need be concerned. They may be delusional as well, but you and Russia still are too. I have no real reason to worry about your opinions, and less so than ever.
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Sat Mar 01, 2025 1:07 pm |
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DP07
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Mr. R wrote: DP07 wrote: [ Yeah, you agreed with me because you’re Russian, but you’re also delusional because you’re Russian. Time to turn that page and move on before it's too late. Trump knows US lost and tries to cut the losses and save face. Go ahead and read first pages of this 3-year ongoing conversation and you'll see who's delusional. US greatly underestimated Russia in the long term and overestimated its own power and its allies. Ukraine lost when it started shelling Donetsk in early February 2022 and provoked Russia's answer. 3 years and a million deaths later it's getting the worst deal ever. But now it's not even about Ukraine - it's about Europe. US is taking NATO infrastructure back to pre-1997 like Putin demanded in 2021, EU pays all the damages, ukraine's demographics suffered irreparable blow, Eastern Europe got millions of far right refugees, Germany forever fucked up its economy. Oh, and next up is Baltics - time to get rid of Kaliningrad's blockade. Also, you have no relevant point. Rather than reply, why don’t you go to Pokrovsk and get yourself killed? Only a fool wouldn’t think it a better fate.
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DP07
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End: Relevant, functional, official, formal, and future independence of the “United States of America”. Any remaining continuity of the “United States of America” requires approval by independent analysis as a prerequisite, and reality, or realistically objective validation for continued tolerance of operations.
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DP07
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As a note: while I don’t respect “democracy”, or your political system, I don’t endorse any form of “authoritarianism” either. I also reject the dichotomy of only the two (as if there couldn’t possibly be any other alternatives). I, of course, endorse anti-colonialism (to repeat, I’m not anti-empire or anti-imperialism). I again reject western style colonialism, or neocolonialism (and the entire system associated with the “United Nations”). I reject it regardless of politics, political systems, ideology, or any other such considerations.
My issue with Ukraine is just that Trump’s comments are beyond the pale of tastelessness in ways that transcend species. It might not make sense from a Homo Sapien perspective to oppose European colonialism or NATO, and what it represents, but to support Ukraine in context, or for that to be in our interest, but obviously the nature, or human nature, of other species does not apply to mine.
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Mr. R wrote: DP07 wrote: [ Yeah, you agreed with me because you’re Russian, but you’re also delusional because you’re Russian. Time to turn that page and move on before it's too late. Trump knows US lost and tries to cut the losses and save face. Go ahead and read first pages of this 3-year ongoing conversation and you'll see who's delusional. US greatly underestimated Russia in the long term and overestimated its own power and its allies. Ukraine lost when it started shelling Donetsk in early February 2022 and provoked Russia's answer. 3 years and a million deaths later it's getting the worst deal ever. But now it's not even about Ukraine - it's about Europe. US is taking NATO infrastructure back to pre-1997 like Putin demanded in 2021, EU pays all the damages, ukraine's demographics suffered irreparable blow, Eastern Europe got millions of far right refugees, Germany forever fucked up its economy. Oh, and next up is Baltics - time to get rid of Kaliningrad's blockade. TLDR: The opposite of delusion isn’t necessarily reality; it’s often another form of delusion. You can double down on stupidity and I won’t stop you. You completely lack the ability to be aware of your lack of intelligence. You’re obviously desperate although you lack the ability to be aware of it. I have no need of the “USA”. If it were still a strategic threat, I would take it more seriously now, but instead, that’s for the future. Zelenskyy was right to say that war would be felt in the future, but America has absolutely nothing to fear from Russian Soldiers. Rather ultimately others, although Trump is clearly an insignificant threat (like Putin). When the United States of America ends (no if), they will need our tolerance and patience. If they threaten us, they should fear us, absolutely, far more than any other.
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DP07
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DP07 wrote: Darth Indiana Bond wrote: It’s very clear you have to treat Trump like a toddler. The Taliban and Putin understand this, but Zelensky does not. You gotta make him feel like a big boy and is very special. Then you can get what you want from when you make him feel good about himself. That’s not just Trump; that is a trait common to human (or Homo Sapien) nature. You tend to assume that you must be destined for something you are not: truly advanced civilization, intelligence, consciousness, and conscience.
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