The fact he has 12 kids with 3 women gives me pause in believing he’s conservative now because he’s certainly not a family man.

He’s an edge lord who’s going through his fascist faze because his liberal daughter (or son I don’t remember) hurt his feelings and now he is rebelling like a sixteen year old girl from a John Hughes breakfast club.

Honestly it’s probably his own fault that his trans identified son acts this way since he was probably not present for much of his childhood

Honestly? You could be right

Sounds so much like him but could just be a weird stalker/guy looking for attention who did amazing job copying his cadence

Going forward the people who think illegal immigration is good will be like believing in abortion up to 9 months, there is some lefties out there but most people are against it. But the people such as the ones mad at Musk right now who don't value legal immigrants like educated Indians on visas and think they're taking jobs from homegrown people or are affecting the cultural identities too much will be like pro-life, even though there is a lot of conservatives in that camp, it's obvious pro-choice is more popular. The most popular position is likely to be pro legal immigration and anti illegal immigration, just like the most popular abortion position is being pro choice up to 4-5 months. Both sides need to find a way to embrace this position while not totally losing the far left/far right people on it.

Hopefully with Bob Good, Matt Rosendale and Matt Gaetz all out of Congress, Johnson can win the speakership on the first vote.

He was reelected on the first ballot. Hopefully this congress can go better than the last with several clowns on both sides gone (the aforementioned 3 and Bush and Bowman.

I am hoping as well. Johnson does support Ukraine which is a huge plus for me, so I hope he succeeds on those grounds.

In the meanwhile, I have warmed up a little more to Trump as he is starting to side more with the tech bros whose ties to fascism are looser than those of Bannon and Miller. As annoying as the tech bros can be, they are just that, annoying. Bannon, Miller, and the Alt-Right are the bigger threat to the US. The tech bros are self-serving much like Trump, but on their own they are not a threat to American Democracy.

Ridiculous thread title BTW, considering Trump’s decisions and appointments so far.

My feeling is the day of the woke is over which will make the reaction to the second Trump much less hysterical. Therefore while he will still be criticized, it will be closer to the libs relationship with politics during Bush.

Luigi Mangione’s killing of the United Heathcare CEO is more historically significant than Trump’s entire re-election and coming term.

He changed more in one morning than Trump has in over 9 years since announcing his candidacy in 2015.

I think it'll end up barely meaning more than the guy who set himself on fire for Palestine.

Progressives needed Mangione cause they were bored of Israel Palestine after 14 months and are waiting for their next big era like that, MeToo, BLM, Ukraine, etc. But I suppose at some point, the next one might not come.

It is hard to see the consequences of Mangione at this point beyond speculation. If there is no change to the healthcare system in this country then it will be nothing more than an internet fad

But that’s not at all what I meant.

The long term consequences involve the question of when (there is no realistic question of if) the United States ends in war. What happened is perhaps, more than anything, symbolic, but also an early signal of what is to come. Mitigation will work for some time, but again, it’s a question of when, not if.

I won’t elaborate here, or reply. I’ll elaborate in my other thread when I have time.

Short term, the consequences of Mangione are more complex, but I’m not interested in explaining.

Trump’s first big move was to pardon people who beat police officers because they did it for Trump. I mean it is disgraceful, but I am numb to it all now

And he claimed the Republican Party was for “law and order” on Jan. 6 2021, and claimed they were not “part of the movement” after. lol

Biden pardoned Fauci, general Milley, and the Jan. 6 committee. He believes “rule of law” will “ultimately” prevail over “politics”. I’d like him, or perhaps other democrats, to try to explain the difference though.

Edit: He claimed he couldn’t in “good conscience” do otherwise. As I expected, his “conscience” is dependent on, and related to politics and culture, as per human nature, or Homo Sapien nature.

End: Ambiguity regarding species.

New title should be Reign of the Edgelords

That there was 1,500 people to pardon for J6 is crazy. There can't be that many people that were the ones hitting police officers with hockey sticks or whatever, many of them had to be people who walked into the capitol building thinking they were allowed to protest, them getting their lives back is great.

To be explicit: I don’t care about “edge” or about trying to be “edgy”.

Don’t move that post, but move the others. Whatever Shack, I intend to be done with this conversation.

If the opposition couldn’t stop Hegseth, the rest of the nominees will probably sail through

Mitch McConnell is trying his hardest to be the worst but Republicans are fortunate they got that one extra Pennsylvania seat.