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 WoKJ Needs A New Owner 
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The time has come for me to part with WoKJ. The obvious question is why, so let me try and explain:

Late last year I had my first child, a daughter, who is nearing 5 months old. Just a month ago, I was promoted at work, to an exciting but demanding position. The baby, and the job, require my full attention, and I want to give it to them.

I've been lucky enough to operate WoKJ for over a decade now, and in doing so have managed a dedicated server where the site (and other properties I own / host) live. I frankly haven't been able to do much of anything in this avenue since I launched Box Office Seer, and while the time spent managing it all isn't much, it's time I need to have back.

So, the server will be shut off. The sites shut down. The lights turned low. Unless of course someone else want's to pick up the torch and move the site in whatever direction they may fancy. The site does generate some revenue via forum ads, enough that a new owner may conceivably break even by moving to some type of non-dedicated environment. Or they're welcome to keep my dedicated server, add their own sites, maybe even keep some of the clients I have, who knows!

In any event, if you're interested in taking on such responsibilities, please contact me at kjtocool at gmail and we can discuss further. If you have questions for me, please post them here and I'll be happy to address.

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Where will we go, BoxOfficeTheory? That's like sending the grad schoolers to kindergarten! :grrr:

How many pennies are we talking here? I have an extra cent or two lying around, I am sure...

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This is sad, particularly considering the sheer wealth of writing and box-office reporting on here over the years.

But, at the same time, it is not in my wheelhouse to own or operate a website.

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Mon May 18, 2015 12:13 am
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This is really bad news. WOKJ is the only box office site I frequent. Why shut off the server? How much time does it really take away from you? Would it not be possible to keep the server running?

Congrats on the promotion, by the way.

I really hope someone can host this site and keep it running.

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David wrote:
This is sad, particularly considering the sheer wealth of writing and box-office reporting on here over the years.

But, at the same time, it is not in my wheelhouse to own or operate a website.


How hard can it be? Anybody with working eyes should be able to figure out there is some tangible monetary value to the knowledge everybody here has gained.

Build and promote KJ for what is: the collection of the most knowledgable box office analysts on the web. The average poster here shits on folks like Ray Subers, and the amount of money the advice here could have saved studios over the years could feed a small county.

I think we should stop fucking around and show the internet world what's up. Our knowledge > anybody elses. A KJ authored Summer box office Preview should be there with fucking Variety.

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Go ahead then.

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Eagle, PM me the deets.

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Zoinks.

Congratulations on everything you have going on, Eagle!

But...#savekj


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I really hope someone will take it over. I would hate for the site to go away. :(


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Eagle. :( :( :( But I'm glad your life if going good.

I really hope someone takes the reigns from you. This is the best forum on the internet. :) :) :)


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Hey Karl congrats on the promotion and ofcourse the little addition to your family (that we already knew) :).

#savekj

Hope someone picks it up.


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I am willing to partner up with a few people to do it, but I cannot do it myself, not while I have another busy website running. I am willing to do whatever I can to keep WOKJ going, though. These forums and its inhabitants have been part of my life for over a decade.

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Wow. I hope it is saved. End of an era.

I do post sometimes on the other forum, but it's of course a very different environment.

If this does go, will everything be lost? I don't suppose I'll follow too much if this also gets shut down. :(

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Wow. Sad news. Nothing lasts forever but it always felt like we'd be logging on to KJ for years to come.

Congrats on the family and new job. Having a new bub is just awesome though fatherhood does require your time and energy. Enjoy.

I also don't have any spare time between family and work but if be more than happy to contribute financially.

What are the site running costs?

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What does running the site even entail?


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This is dreadful news.

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zwackerm wrote:
What does running the site even entail?

This is something I also don't really get. And how Lecter suggests "a few people"...I mean really, how hard can it really be? Doesn't it just need to be hosted somewhere else? I don't get why there needs to be so much work done by so many people.

Am I missing something? Does Google give Karl weekly tests to do? Surely the site doesn't require debugging anymore (I'd imagine it hasn't for years)..

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No no no this can't be happening. My favorite bar closed last week and now this news. No,no,no I'm not having it.

#savekj

I'll be more than willing to contribute financially if we can get someone to host it.

Congrats on the kid & Job promotion KJ :) that's awesome.

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I doubt if random group of folks can "own" it. Previously Loyal and Karl had a tiff and Loyal left. I wonder if Loyal will be interested in coming up now since Karl is leaving? Otherwise it needs single owner but others can contribute.

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I am not talking a dozen of people, but it needs to be more than one, IMO. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. See, WOKJ was previously run by more than one person. Loyal left, but it was still running because there still was one person. Now the one person is also leaving. You cannot rely completely on one person because they have their lives too. You need fully involved back-ups, especially since people go on holiday and so on and technica problems or other issues can occur unexpectedly. So 2-3 people would be good and they could share the responsibilities and the costs....I am willing to become part of a team. I have no current ambitions (or time) to rebuld or expand the main site, but my main interest is to keep these forums alive because I like them.

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Yeah I would wager most people don't really care about an active main site, we just want the forums to stay alive.


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Yeah I would wager most people don't really care about an active main site, we just want the forums to stay alive.

Agree. Keep the forum alive please.

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Libs wrote:
Yeah I would wager most people don't really care about an active main site, we just want the forums to stay alive.

Agree. Keep the forum alive please.


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Libs wrote:
Yeah I would wager most people don't really care about an active main site, we just want the forums to stay alive.


Yes, yes, but you still take the whole package, which does entail maintenance and costs.

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