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 WoKJ Threatened, Soon To Be Sued. 
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Post Re: WoKJ Threatened, Soon To Be Sued.
Nah this is bullshit. There is no way they have anything on you here. For peace of mind consult a lawyer. I'm sure some of us here could chip in for a consultation or two - I would.

Btw - what evidence did they present?

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Post Re: WoKJ Threatened, Soon To Be Sued.
Actually Algren's idea is a good one. But instead of viral - just go direct to media outlets about this. I'm sure at least one would want to expose Internet extortionists.

These fuckers try there luck and hope for a quick settlement . Push back and they'll bail.

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All,

They don't have a case, they just have scare tactics and a lawyer working for himself. As Groucho can attest, legal counsel isn't cheap, and the issue here is they WILL take this to court. That means me hiring legal counsel to deal with that, which means time, and thus money. Significantly more than what they want to settle, but settling basically means giving up the site as it opens the door to many more trolls looking for a similar handout.

They wouldn't win, I just don't know that I can fight them. Groucho's offer to help is extremely nice, something he didn't have to do. I haven't discussed it with him further in private, but my worry even there is that this type of law is outside his typical practice.

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All,

They don't have a case, they just have scare tactics and a lawyer working for himself. As Groucho can attest, legal counsel isn't cheap, and the issue here is they WILL take this to court. That means me hiring legal counsel to deal with that, which means time, and thus money. Significantly more than what they want to settle, but settling basically means giving up the site as it opens the door to many more trolls looking for a similar handout.

They wouldn't win, I just don't know that I can fight them. Groucho's offer to help is extremely nice, something he didn't have to do. I haven't discussed it with him further in private, but my worry even there is that this type of law is outside his typical practice.

Karl


Hmm, is there a reason you're so sure he'll actually take it to court?

It isn't free to file a complaint, unless he can prove he's indigent.


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This case has no legal bearing whatsoever. You and KJ will be fine, Eagle.


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Don't be shy. if you're in need of funds, ask.

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https://www.eff.org/

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Excel is actually eccentric billionaire John Hodgman. He'll chip in!

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Magnus is basically a less endearing Tom Haverford (no offense, really, Magnus). It all makes sense.


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Let Groucho handle this money grabber. Reminds me of debt collectors who threaten court action unless you settle. Most folks will just settle then try to deal with it because it takes time, money and you have no clue what to do unless you are a lawyer yourself or hire one which again costs money, but you have a card they don't expect.

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Hmm, is there a reason you're so sure he'll actually take it to court?

It isn't free to file a complaint, unless he can prove he's indigent.


They have sent out thousands of letters, and have filed lawsuits against over 100 so far (and counting). Some are in 'active' litigation, but they have yet to appear before a judge. That occurs this Fall for the first time.

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They told you this in their letter/email to you?

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Jesus. What a joke.


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As much as I love USA, your legal system is basically tailored to fuck up the little man. There's way too much protection for large companies and douche lawyers. There's a reason why shit like this wouldn't fly in Europe. Look at the recent "right to be forgotten" case Google lost.


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You don't have to hire a lawyer. You can represent yourself. The arguments aren't that complicated.

Your cost would be time, rather than money.


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Eagle wrote:
Jiffy wrote:

Hmm, is there a reason you're so sure he'll actually take it to court?

It isn't free to file a complaint, unless he can prove he's indigent.


They have sent out thousands of letters, and have filed lawsuits against over 100 so far (and counting). Some are in 'active' litigation, but they have yet to appear before a judge. That occurs this Fall for the first time.


Have you seen the court records of suits they've filed.


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They told you this in their letter/email to you?


No, I did some research after I received the letter. You can see a list of their active lawsuits here:

http://copyright-trolls.com/site/copyri ... rt-system/

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You don't have to hire a lawyer. You can represent yourself. The arguments aren't that complicated.

Your cost would be time, rather than money.


This just isn't feasible, nor something I'm interested in.

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Post Re: WoKJ Threatened, Soon To Be Sued.
Could you pool your resources together with the other sites that are being threatened? Surely there is strength in numbers here.


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COUNTER SUE

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I hope you and all the other websites and forums win big.

Force these asshat lawyers into bankruptcy. Fucking schmucks.

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Avoid responding to them for as long as you can and hope they move onto someone else. Their end goal is to get settlements, any time they go to court they're going to lose so they'll avoid it. Furthermore going to court increases their visibility and let's Uncle Sam know they're scam artists which I assume is bad for them, or sets them up to be sued later by a defendant. I think there's a good chance if you don't settle immediately this goes away. If I was running this scam I would never go to court, it's sending out hundreds of letters and taking whatever ratio settles, I don't see the motive for them to really go to court

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:noway: ridiculous.


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Eagle, what is the latest on this charade? Has ignoring it worked?

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