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Argos
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Joined: Sat May 13, 2006 2:20 pm Posts: 7952 Location: Wherever he went, including here, it was against his better judgment.
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
get wrote: The rules for spamming were quite clear Argos. Which rules? get wrote: You didn't follow orders because you are a douche. You have not read the essay, have you?
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:29 pm |
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Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Argos,
You have made it clear that you made concious decisions not to follow the rules of the forum, that your free will is more important than the cage we have tried to impose onto you.
Get's point is that you are now in a position where it becomes your duty to uphold those same rules, rules you still to this moment refuse to accept as valid. I think a user has every right to question why another user is being placed into a position of power when they so brazenly discount what they are meant to uphold.
I have told Get in private that I will not now, nor ever, step in to remove or modify the moderators an adminstrator puts in place (unless they are deleting/editing/modifying things to the detriment of the forum). That is torrino's job now, and this decision is his. However, you could very easily put all this to rest by explaining that, regardless how you FEEL about the rules, while you are a moderator you will abide by them and do your best to uphold them as torrino wishes.
Can you do that?
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:58 pm |
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Jesus Christ
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Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:40 am Posts: 666 Location: Bethlehem, Nazareth, The Cross, Heaven, Earth
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Eagle wrote: Can you do that? I am not Argos, but if I was I would say to you "No Thanks, Cabuche"!
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:07 pm |
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Argos
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Joined: Sat May 13, 2006 2:20 pm Posts: 7952 Location: Wherever he went, including here, it was against his better judgment.
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Eagle wrote: rules you still to this moment refuse to accept as valid. Which rules are you talking about, and where did I say I refuse to accept them? Eagle wrote: Can you do that? This is a learning process. We will see, hm?
_________________ "Der Lebenslauf des Menschen besteht darin, dass er, von der Hoffnung genarrt, dem Tod in die Arme tanzt." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:09 pm |
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Jesus Christ
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Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:40 am Posts: 666 Location: Bethlehem, Nazareth, The Cross, Heaven, Earth
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Eagle is very slow, maybe he could be euthanized, no?
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:11 pm |
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Grill
Forum General
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:01 am Posts: 8684
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Eagle wrote: Argos,
You have made it clear that you made concious decisions not to follow the rules of the forum, that your free will is more important than the cage we have tried to impose onto you.
Get's point is that you are now in a position where it becomes your duty to uphold those same rules, rules you still to this moment refuse to accept as valid. I think a user has every right to question why another user is being placed into a position of power when they so brazenly discount what they are meant to uphold.
I have told Get in private that I will not now, nor ever, step in to remove or modify the moderators an adminstrator puts in place (unless they are deleting/editing/modifying things to the detriment of the forum). That is torrino's job now, and this decision is his. However, you could very easily put all this to rest by explaining that, regardless how you FEEL about the rules, while you are a moderator you will abide by them and do your best to uphold them as torrino wishes.
Can you do that? I agree that a MOD shouldn't be removed by you. That should be the ADM's job. But hopefully you will be watching all further ADM's to make sure that they are doing the job exepcted. And that if any are ever really bad and don't improve, they can and will be removed.
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:22 pm |
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Eagle
Site Owner
Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Quote: Eagle wrote: Can you do that? This is a learning process. We will see, hm? If you can't agree to abide by and uphold the rules the administrator creates for the forum, you shouldn't be a moderator.
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:27 pm |
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Loyal
"no rank"
Joined: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:43 pm Posts: 24502
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Jesus Christ
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Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:40 am Posts: 666 Location: Bethlehem, Nazareth, The Cross, Heaven, Earth
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Eagle reminds me very much of the tarsier in Idi i Smotri.
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:31 pm |
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Argos
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Joined: Sat May 13, 2006 2:20 pm Posts: 7952 Location: Wherever he went, including here, it was against his better judgment.
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Eagle wrote: If you can't agree to abide by and uphold the rules the administrator creates for the forum, you shouldn't be a moderator. I agree with that proposition.
_________________ "Der Lebenslauf des Menschen besteht darin, dass er, von der Hoffnung genarrt, dem Tod in die Arme tanzt." - Arthur Schopenhauer
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Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:31 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Eagle, you gave up rights to deciding who is or is not a mod.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:26 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
ChipMunky wrote: Eagle, you gave up rights to deciding who is or is not a mod. How dare you question our puppet master! 
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:32 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
I'm just saying.
The only way he can have a decision regarding the mods is if he de-admin's Torri.
And that would just bring hellfire onto worldofkj.com.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:39 am |
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zingy
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
I don't think Eagle is implying that he is going to be de-modding anyone. He's just saying to Argos that if he doesn't plan on following the rules, he shouldn't be moderator. Which is fair.
I asked Argos the same question and he said he's going to be a responsible mod. And none of the other mods have made any objection to him being a moderator. Argos even said that he would let himself be replaced as a mod if torrino, myself and the other mods felt that his being a mod was causing too many problems. So, it's not like he's taking this position as a joke. Plus, throughout his campaign for admin, he took it very seriously before he was removed. He laid out a sensible plan and set of rules for his administration. Argos seems dedicated, and I can't speak for torrino (in response to getluv asking us why we think he's an okay moderator), but I feel that he can handle this position and should be given a shot.
And, obviously, if there are any problems during his time as mod, they can be addressed and actions can be taken. So why not wait and see how he does as a moderator before criticizing the decision and his ability as a mod.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:02 am |
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Korrgan
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:52 am Posts: 15515 Location: Bait Shop
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
This whole election thing was seriously the worst experience ever. And I've had a penis in my ass. KJ has become miserable the last few weeks. Why did you submit us to this, Eagle?
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:08 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
How dare you reveal personal information about our lives!
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:09 am |
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Korrgan
problem?
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:52 am Posts: 15515 Location: Bait Shop
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btw,
zingy (who?): "dur dur c'mon guys lets all just wait and see what happens and if shit goes to hell then we'll remove argos from power dur dur dur"
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:11 am |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
zingy wrote: I don't think Eagle is implying that he is going to be de-modding anyone. He's just saying to Argos that if he doesn't plan on following the rules, he shouldn't be moderator. Which is fair.
I asked Argos the same question and he said he's going to be a responsible mod I'm sorry, but that doesn't answer your question. And I can't be fucked giving Argos a chance because he's an idiot who's i've treated the same way he's treated me. And now you want me to show respect, how about fuck off no.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:14 am |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
He, and his other mods,thought Argos' ideas were in line with theirs. So they are giving him a chance to prove himself.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:14 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
I see no issue with Argos as a mod.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:15 am |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
No one really gives a shit about what you think chippy.
Argos' ideas are not the same as theirs corpse. he's wanted anarchy on these boards since the 1st (of 12 times) he was banned. I've lost all respect for a lot of people on here.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:20 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
Rawr.
I think you've got me confused with you.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:22 am |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
witty, im writing that one down on toilet paper and sending it to Kleenex.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:25 am |
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getluv
i break the rules, so i don't care
Joined: Sun May 15, 2005 4:28 pm Posts: 20411
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
And is Argos really educated enough to have such a job. He still hasn't taken responsibility for his past actions. He's also very unclear about the rules. Obviously the rule's definition of SPAM obviously has deeper meanings, for which he thinks he did not break.
And zingy, this still doesn't stop the moderating elections from being a complete farce. If your own admin can't meet the own criteria for the new moderators then how does this give this administration any credibility at all. I think this site is turning to more of a joke than it ever was.
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Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:27 am |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Torri give me 1 reason why Argos should be a mod
get wrote: witty, im writing that one down on toilet paper and sending it to Kleenex. I'm sure they'll consider using it.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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