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Algren
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:09 am |
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Thegun
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Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21889 Location: Walking around somewhere
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LOL, is that a joke
It doesn't look terrible, but wow. A nice interesting twist on the genre though. WIll be interesting to see a legit western told through that perspective.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:18 am |
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Algren
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Why would it be a joke? Clint's Unforgiven is a bore-fest and it needed to be remade. I expected more kineticism and not just a straight-up remake with Asian actors, but it still looks better.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:22 am |
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Corpse
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It's going to be a good or even great film, and likely do well at the box office next month. It's also being screened at the Toronto International Film Festival next month. Warner Bros. exited Japan as an exhibitor at the beginning of the year to focus on producing and distributing more local films (which they've been excelling at so far), and this is one of their key titles. User reviews from early screenings are excellent, too: http://coco.to/movie/34791Sang-il Lee is one of the most talented directors in Japan right now. His previous two films, Villain and Hula Girls, did very well at the Japan Academy Awards (won Best Director for the latter in 07), and at International Film Festivals.
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nghtvsn
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Looks interesting but this has Nothing on Clint's film. Who are these people?
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:25 am |
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Algren
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nghtvsn wrote: this has Nothing on Clint's film. You haven't even seen it.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:28 am |
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Thegun
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Algren wrote: http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/yurusarezaru-mono/trailer
Looks better than Clint's Unforgiven. Neither have you As for it, it looks like a bollywood shot for shot remake with good actors and a different setting. Nothing about it looks like it will be better than the original.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:40 am |
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Algren
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Thegun wrote: Algren wrote: http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/yurusarezaru-mono/trailer
Looks better than Clint's Unforgiven. Neither have you That's why I said "looks". He said "it has nothing on Clint's"...to know this he must have seen it. Don't be a fool again, Thegun. Try to see clearly now, the rain has gone.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:51 am |
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Thegun
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It's a foregone conclusion it will suck. Wantabe has never been the star of a good movie. He is usually fucking awful, however he is decent when supporting. His best film is an Eastwood film ironically.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:05 am |
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Algren
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It's a self-fulfilling prophecy of yours that it will suck because you are too narrow-minded to accept a remake of Unforgiven. That's all that is at play here.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:17 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Thegun wrote: It's a foregone conclusion it will suck. Wantabe has never been the star of a good movie. He is usually fucking awful, however he is decent when supporting. His best film is an Eastwood film ironically. Just wondering - how many films with Watanabe in the starring role have you seen that you deem him awful?
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:08 am |
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Algren
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Thegun wrote: It's a foregone conclusion it will suck. Wantabe has never been the star of a good movie. He is usually fucking awful, however he is decent when supporting. His best film is an Eastwood film ironically. Just wondering - how many films with Watanabe in the starring role have you seem that you deem him awful? This should be interesting..
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:24 pm |
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Thegun
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I've pretty much seen all outside of Memories of Tomorrow, which I hear is ok, but he is supposed to be good in it. Awful was an extreme term. I really don't have a problem with him, but I've always found him to be rather one note, but he does have a natural charm that works better in smaller doses like in The Last Samurai, and I really thought he nailed it in LFIJ. Shanghai (I didn't like that one, Memoirs of Geisha, nor The Unbroken.) He's also 0/2 in Nolan films.
I'll end up seeing this one, merely for the cinematography.
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Dr. Lecter
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Thegun wrote: I've pretty much seen all outside of Memories of Tomorrow, which I hear is ok, but he is supposed to be good in it. Awful was an extreme term. I really don't have a problem with him, but I've always found him to be rather one note, but he does have a natural charm that works better in smaller doses like in The Last Samurai, and I really thought he nailed it in LFIJ. Shanghai (I didn't like that one, Memoirs of Geisha, nor The Unbroken.) He's also 0/2 in Nolan films.
I'll end up seeing this one, merely for the cinematography. Okay, so he was very good in Inception and okay in his very limited role in Batman Begins - both parts that were, actually shorter than his turn in The Last Samurai. So, you say that he works better in smaller doses. Then you say you liked him in The Last Samurai and in Letters from Iwo Jima, but didn't like him in Shanghai or the Nolan films. At the same time his role in The Last Samurai and Letters from Iwo Jima were larger than those in Shanghai and the Nolan films and at least on par with the role in Memoirs of a Geisha. So if we take out the supporting parts - you have seen him in leading roles in The Unbroken (in which you didn't liek him and in Letters from iwo Jima, in which you liked him). Making it 1:1 for leading parts - something you based your argument upon (not being good in leading roles). I rest my case.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:21 pm |
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Thegun
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He simply hasn't starred in many films and when I went back, I was less than impressed with more of his smaller roles as well. Maybe it's the roles, but a few of them had some great performances. I find most of his American acting to be interpretations/ imitations of LS role.
Inception- His role played by anyone else would have been much better. Ken looks like he wandered on set and started talking. Batman- A wasted role for anyone involved. No one would have made that a anything more. Last Samurai- Good Geisha- Bad film in general. His role was not impressive. Shangai- Meh Unbroken- Ok film, he's mediocre I chalk Letters being Eastwood making him better with his crazy schedule for making films. The technique has worked on quite a few actors.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:42 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Interpretation of his TLS role? That may be. But then again, you could do worse than interpreting an Oscar-nominated performance.
On Inception - you are flat-out wrong.
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:44 pm |
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Thegun
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Agree to disagree. He just doesn't work. Put someone in there, even someone like Alan Rickman, Guy Pearce, Gary Oldman (Since we are talking Nolan), etc. The character would have been more heartbreaking in his desperation to win, and loss of reality in the end. Watanabe doesn't really show any emotion, even when shot, or at the end. He's the only weak part of the film in my opinion.
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Price
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Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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A Fistful Of Dollars was a remake of Yojimbo, so why not?
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:44 pm |
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Algren
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Price wrote: A Fistful Of Dollars was a remake of Yojimbo, so why not? I think Last Man Standing is also a remake of Yojimbo/A Fistful of Dollars. I have no evidence for this, but when I watched A Fistful of Dollars a few years back, I was amazed by how similar it was.
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David
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I love Clint's Unforgiven (it is my third favorite of the film he has directed, behind Letters from Iwo Jima and A Perfect World), and this seems a solid, interesting adaptation. I love Watanabe. I will definitely see it.
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