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| Author: | Jonathan [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Instead of hijacking every other goddamn box office thread with this bullshit, Joe, how about we keep the eternal argument of tried and tired genres to a single thread where it probably belongs, hm? Anyway, duke it out. |
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| Author: | Harry Warden [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Jon wrote: Instead of hijacking every other goddamn box office thread with this bullshit, Joe, how about we keep the eternal argument of tried and tired genres to a single thread where it probably belongs, hm? Anyway, duke it out. I don't hijack the threads. I just voice my opinion about how terrible most rom-coms are (some are actually good, like When Harry Met Sally and As Good As It Gets) with their gender bias. Others then follow attacking me, thus hijacking the thread. All you have to do is look at the numerical evidence: Rom-coms are very one-sided in their draw, horror movies aren't. Horror movies are also more profitable. They pretty much never lose money. And this won't settle anything: It will just show how many are pathetic enough to not only hate but want someone they've never actually met in person dead. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
I can't even remember the last GREAT horror movie. They've been bad for SO long. Romcoms usually have one great one per year. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
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| Author: | trixster [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Rorschach wrote: A bad rom-com is worse than a bad horror. But a great rom-com is better than a great horror. I'll go with rom-com. The Shining and Suspiria and Alien and Halloween and Psycho and The Thing and every Cronenberg movie disagree. I hate to agree with Joe, but horror is a much more successful genre, both artistically and financially. |
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| Author: | snack [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
trix, you're failing to make the distinction between the horror genre you're talking about and the horror genre we're talking about. |
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| Author: | Loyal [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Ozymunkias wrote: I can't even remember the last GREAT horror movie. They've been bad for SO long. Let The Right One In? But I agree, there is usually one great romcom each year. 2008 - Forgetting Sarah Marshall 2007 - Knocked Up 2006 - The Break Up 2005 - The Family Stone 2004 - 50 First Dates 2003 - Love Actually 2002 - Punch Drunk Love 2001 - Bridget Jones's Diary |
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| Author: | trixster [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
snackosaurus wrote: trix, you're failing to make the distinction between the horror genre you're talking about and the horror genre we're talking about. Horror is horror. If the thread title was "RomComs vs. Torture Porn" maybe my answer would be different. But, as it stands, horror is a helluva lot better than romantic comedies. And it's not like it's totally dead now, either. Only American horror movies are. And even they churn out a great one every now and then. |
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| Author: | trixster [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Rorschach wrote: trixster wrote: Rorschach wrote: A bad rom-com is worse than a bad horror. But a great rom-com is better than a great horror. I'll go with rom-com. The Shining and Suspiria and Alien and Halloween and Psycho and The Thing and every Cronenberg movie disagree. Wall-E, Eternal Sunshine, 40OV, Annie Hall, and any Tom Hanks/Meg Ryan movie disagree. You tried to win an argument with me by using Wall-E? Do you know me at all? |
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| Author: | Harry Warden [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
trixster wrote: snackosaurus wrote: trix, you're failing to make the distinction between the horror genre you're talking about and the horror genre we're talking about. Horror is horror. If the thread title was "RomComs vs. Torture Porn" maybe my answer would be different. But, as it stands, horror is a helluva lot better than romantic comedies. And it's not like it's totally dead now, either. Only American horror movies are. And even they churn out a great one every now and then. And Torture Porn wouldn't even include recent films like F13, MBV3D, etc., as you know. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
loyalfromlondon wrote: Ozymunkias wrote: I can't even remember the last GREAT horror movie. They've been bad for SO long. Let The Right One In? But I agree, there is usually one great romcom each year. 2008 - Forgetting Sarah Marshall 2007 - Knocked Up 2006 - The Break Up 2005 - The Family Stone 2004 - 50 First Dates 2003 - Love Actually 2002 - Punch Drunk Love 2001 - Bridget Jones's Diary Ah HAH! Let The Right One In is actually a hybrid Rom/Hor movie. So... |
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| Author: | Libs [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
I like movies that are either good or entertain me. Complex, I know. So, yes, I tend to prefer romantic comedies but I don't dislike horror. In fact, certain horror movies are some of my favorite movies (Scream, The Shining, The Ring, Halloween). |
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| Author: | Shack [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
trixster wrote: Rorschach wrote: A bad rom-com is worse than a bad horror. But a great rom-com is better than a great horror. I'll go with rom-com. The Shining and Suspiria and Alien and Halloween and Psycho and The Thing and every Cronenberg movie disagree. I hate to agree with Joe, but horror is a much more successful genre, both artistically and financially. Well you could do the same for romcoms. Annie Hall, Singin in the Rain, The Apartment, City Lights, the African Queen, etc., then Love Actually, Punch-Drunk Love, High Fidelity among recent films. Actually I'd argue over history there's been more great romcoms than great horrors, but there's been more romcoms period too, as they've been around much longer. I'm sure yosh could tell you of 250 great screwball romcoms from the 30s to 60s. For me it's pretty even. I don't usually put one genre over another... it's how you succeed in that genre that matters. There's equal numbers of success and failures for both. In this case, the failures for each genre take formula and unoriginality to a new level. But if we're talking these mainstream throwaways, I can stomach the romcoms more. I briefly considered seeing He's Just Not That Into You last week with nothing else in theatres to see. You couldn't pay me to see The Uninvited or Friday the 13th. |
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| Author: | Harry Warden [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Shack wrote: trixster wrote: Rorschach wrote: A bad rom-com is worse than a bad horror. But a great rom-com is better than a great horror. I'll go with rom-com. The Shining and Suspiria and Alien and Halloween and Psycho and The Thing and every Cronenberg movie disagree. I hate to agree with Joe, but horror is a much more successful genre, both artistically and financially. Well you could do the same for romcoms. Annie Hall, Singin in the Rain, The Apartment, City Lights, the African Queen, etc., then Love Actually, Punch-Drunk Love, High Fidelity among recent films. Actually I'd argue over history there's been more great romcoms than great horrors, but there's been more romcoms period too, as they've been around much longer. I'm sure yosh could tell you of 250 great screwball romcoms from the 30s to 60s. For me it's pretty even. I don't usually put one genre over another... it's how you succeed in that genre that matters. There's equal numbers of success and failures for both. In this case, the failures for each genre take formula and unoriginality to a new level. But if we're talking these mainstream throwaways, I can stomach the romcoms more. I briefly considered seeing He's Just Not That Into You last week with nothing else in theatres to see. You couldn't pay me to see The Uninvited or Friday the 13th. Shows what you know since The Uninvited isn't even a horror movie. 
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| Author: | Chippy [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
It was marketed and is still being marketed as a horror movie. |
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| Author: | Harry Warden [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Ozymunkias wrote: It was marketed and is still being marketed as a horror movie. But it's actually not. Marketing doesn't equal the actual movie, everyone should know that. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Doesn't matter. People don't go around saying "Uninvited was NOT a horror movie" in real life. They just tell friends it sucked ass. Thus, horror movies suck ass. |
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| Author: | Harry Warden [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Ozymunkias wrote: Doesn't matter. People don't go around saying "Uninvited was NOT a horror movie" in real life. They just tell friends it sucked ass. Thus, horror movies suck ass. The Uninvited doesn't suck but of course, you wouldn't know that because why bother actually seeing something and being informed. I actually saw He's Just Not That Into You before criticizing it. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
And you criticized it incorrectly at that. So... |
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| Author: | Shack [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
In any case, I think we can all agree that a fan of torture porn and DTV horrors bitching about romcoms and their poor quality ratio, is just a pure facepalm. I mean, really? Hold on I've got Sean Penn here, he wants to rant against overacting, he's really upset about its trend. |
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| Author: | Shack [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Chia Pet wrote: Shack wrote: trixster wrote: Rorschach wrote: A bad rom-com is worse than a bad horror. But a great rom-com is better than a great horror. I'll go with rom-com. The Shining and Suspiria and Alien and Halloween and Psycho and The Thing and every Cronenberg movie disagree. I hate to agree with Joe, but horror is a much more successful genre, both artistically and financially. Well you could do the same for romcoms. Annie Hall, Singin in the Rain, The Apartment, City Lights, the African Queen, etc., then Love Actually, Punch-Drunk Love, High Fidelity among recent films. Actually I'd argue over history there's been more great romcoms than great horrors, but there's been more romcoms period too, as they've been around much longer. I'm sure yosh could tell you of 250 great screwball romcoms from the 30s to 60s. For me it's pretty even. I don't usually put one genre over another... it's how you succeed in that genre that matters. There's equal numbers of success and failures for both. In this case, the failures for each genre take formula and unoriginality to a new level. But if we're talking these mainstream throwaways, I can stomach the romcoms more. I briefly considered seeing He's Just Not That Into You last week with nothing else in theatres to see. You couldn't pay me to see The Uninvited or Friday the 13th. Shows what you know since The Uninvited isn't even a horror movie. Ummmmm, huh Explain? |
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| Author: | Harry Warden [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Ozymunkias wrote: And you criticized it incorrectly at that. So... Because someone doesn't agree with you, they're wrong...your "wife" must love that 
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| Author: | Harry Warden [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Shack wrote: Chia Pet wrote: Shack wrote: trixster wrote: Rorschach wrote: A bad rom-com is worse than a bad horror. But a great rom-com is better than a great horror. I'll go with rom-com. The Shining and Suspiria and Alien and Halloween and Psycho and The Thing and every Cronenberg movie disagree. I hate to agree with Joe, but horror is a much more successful genre, both artistically and financially. Well you could do the same for romcoms. Annie Hall, Singin in the Rain, The Apartment, City Lights, the African Queen, etc., then Love Actually, Punch-Drunk Love, High Fidelity among recent films. Actually I'd argue over history there's been more great romcoms than great horrors, but there's been more romcoms period too, as they've been around much longer. I'm sure yosh could tell you of 250 great screwball romcoms from the 30s to 60s. For me it's pretty even. I don't usually put one genre over another... it's how you succeed in that genre that matters. There's equal numbers of success and failures for both. In this case, the failures for each genre take formula and unoriginality to a new level. But if we're talking these mainstream throwaways, I can stomach the romcoms more. I briefly considered seeing He's Just Not That Into You last week with nothing else in theatres to see. You couldn't pay me to see The Uninvited or Friday the 13th. Shows what you know since The Uninvited isn't even a horror movie. Ummmmm, huh Explain? If you even need it explained, there's no hope. |
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| Author: | Chippy [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Chia Pet wrote: Ozymunkias wrote: And you criticized it incorrectly at that. So... Because someone doesn't agree with you, they're wrong...your "wife" must love that Yes. And it's not that you disagree, it's that you're opinion on the film is WRONG. |
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| Author: | Loyal [ Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RomComs or Horror Flicks: The Final Word |
Joe, can you please stop bringing up people's husbands and wives? |
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